C43 STAGE I part II (Bandwith Warning!!)

[M104-AMG]

Any word on a C36 system ?

I really think the existing setup is way too restrictive.

I'm in Florida, and would like to have a street & race setup, either both without CATS if it makes an improvement, or street with resonator & rear muffler, race with straight pipes, or something else.

Basically I have a C36 drivetrain into a W124 wagon, and 3.07 LSD. I'm placing 1st & 2nd in SCCA autocross, but would like more power.

[C43]

I just installed my STAGE III exhaust. This exhaust is incredible. My car sounds like a mustang on crack. I am turning heads whenever I am driving. I can feel the power increase. The best part is my wife hates it, so she will not drive it anymore. I have installed the pulley kit and stage II ignition kit and a speedtuning chip. This exhaust with the power X pipe pulled everything together. I have some cabin noise but it has calmed down after 200 miles. I love my car more now than ever. Thanks. You are the man. Now I am ready for a supercharger. Ken if you are making a supercharger tell me because I really trust your quality.

[Under Pressure]

Originally posted by C43
The best part is my wife hates it, so she will not drive it anymore.

That is the absolute best quote ever about a car modification

[CKlasse]

Wow, I didn't know this thread still exists. This summer has been real busy for us. I am sorry I havent been around.

I am having prob. w/ C36 system. So far, it yields lil or no gains...despite reducing the backpressure from 4psi to 2psi.

I am staying away from C36s for now. Perhaps this winter when things slow down around here, I ll work on it some more.

Nathan, no supercharger systems yet, I got all the components here, but our project C43 is going back to North Carolina sooner than expected. Anyhow, I am glad you like the system. I was afraid, by going your route, it would be a lil too loud.

Anyhow, I havent had much time uploading picts to our site..but check these out for now.....

http://www.budsmuffler.com/performance.html

It's been a fun summer so far! Thanks

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by C43
I just installed my STAGE III exhaust. This exhaust is incredible. My car sounds like a mustang on crack. I am turning heads whenever I am driving. I can feel the power increase. The best part is my wife hates it, so she will not drive it anymore. I have installed the pulley kit and stage II ignition kit and a speedtuning chip. This exhaust with the power X pipe pulled everything together. I have some cabin noise but it has calmed down after 200 miles. I love my car more now than ever. Thanks. You are the man. Now I am ready for a supercharger. Ken if you are making a supercharger tell me because I really trust your quality.

Midrange and topend on my car with BMS exhaust is sic! Looking for a run against an E46 M3! Thanx again Kenny.I'll give you a buzz!

[coolcarlskic43]

Kenny ,how much for an exhaust for an E36 M3 95-99 from headers bac?Or cat bac as well?

[CKlasse]

Cat back for the E36... $620. It's a X-Y design...

[Denlasoul]

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
Looking for a run against an E46 M3!

I pulled at 90+mph versus an E36 M3. To my knowledge, the car was stock...and so was mine.

[jnolte]

god, i love the c43 exhauct from cklasse, someday i will get mine

[CKlasse]

.... and darn it..we just dont make C43 system anymore!

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by Denlasoul
I pulled at 90+mph versus an E36 M3. To my knowledge, the car was stock...and so was mine.

Sounds right!

[jnolte]

Originally posted by CKlasse
.... and darn ih..we just dont make C43 system anymore!

what?@!???@!??????

[99amgc43]

so this exhaust made an increase of 25 whp??? since it still has "cats" and "resonators" but a better flowing muffler, would similar gains be reached with a straight pipe to knock out both the cats and resonator but to the stock amg muffler????

[sig425]

bummer. My resonator is toast

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by 99amgc43
so this exhaust made an increase of 25 whp??? since it still has "cats" and "resonators" but a better flowing muffler, would similar gains be reached with a straight pipe to knock out both the cats and resonator but to the stock amg muffler????

From the dyno I noticed more TQ mid range up vs an increase in HP.I did not notice a 25 whp gain to be honest with you.More midrange TQ though.

[cthirtysizzle]

I'm looking to do some exhaust work w/ my C43. There's a crack in the pipe right before it hits the resonator, but I wouldn't mind gaining 17-25hp either! I know Cklasse is no longer making the C43 system, what else is out there?

[202rules]

Originally posted by cthirtysizzle
I'm looking to do some exhaust work w/ my C43. There's a crack in the pipe right before it hits the resonator, but I wouldn't mind gaining 17-25hp either! I know Cklasse is no longer making the C43 system, what else is out there?

lol, do you now wish you hadn't sold your BMS exhaust to me? It would still be too loud for you I guess.

CKlasse is no longer working with BMS, I tried calling him the other day coz I wanted to see if he would help me lower my car and they said he's no longer there. Wonder how he is, very nice guy.

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by cthirtysizzle
I'm looking to do some exhaust work w/ my C43. There's a crack in the pipe right before it hits the resonator, but I wouldn't mind gaining 17-25hp either! I know Cklasse is no longer making the C43 system, what else is out there?

I have the BMS exhaust but I noticed very minimal HP gain.If anything the powerband has moved up some to give the car a little more top end hp.

Look at the dyno on Steve's car with stck exhaust.We are right about the same.The stck AMG exhaust is a very capable exhaust.Steve's car seems to also have more TQ than mine with the stck C43 AMG exh on his car.

[sig425]

I called BMS to get an exhaust. They said they no longer have the jig any any other information about the exhaust they built. They could make a custom set up if you brought them the car... but I live In Indy, they are in Colorado.

[cthirtysizzle]

will i get any power gains if i take off my resonator?

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by cthirtysizzle
will i get any power gains if i take off my resonator?

To be honest I think just a deeper exhaust tone,I won't vouch on a performance increase.

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by cthirtysizzle
will i get any power gains if i take off my resonator?

To be honest I think just a deeper exhaust tone,I won't vouch on a performance increase.

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by cthirtysizzle
will i get any power gains if i take off my resonator?

To be honest I think just a deeper exhaust tone,I won't vouch on a performance increase.

[cthirtysizzle]

got it. all three times...

[coolcarlskic43]

Bottom line the BMS exhaust was garbage and poorly built A waste of my ggod money. I have however built the system from scratch and have experienced some real HP gains as opposed to the BMS system which fell apart everywhere.