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    Coilovers

    just wondering if anyone has put coilovers in there car

    done a bit of searching but all find is threads of people with H&R lowering springs that have done it for looks

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    yes cuz they are way too expensive. Most people just do cut springs and shocks. What are you looking to get of our car performance wise?

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    I really don't know why people that I know who got coil over in the cars switch to regular H&R. They saying it's bcoz it's too bouncy and it don't coz too much.
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    coilovers cost way too much than lowering springs so people tend to go for the cheaper route...

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    coilovers are great for a track car, but not so great for a daily driver, they ride harsh compared to springs

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    car is for 'running the hills' and have a bit of track time too, borderline daily driver (got the c36 for that)

    just wanted them for their adjustability and ease of tuning

    but yeah i guess if it's just lowering people are after why would they spend 3 times as much on coilovers

    also, coilovers have springs too...
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    How can a w202 do coilovers they don't have the correct suspension
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnolte View Post
    How can a w202 do coilovers they don't have the correct suspension
    what do you mean? lol

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    he means that the original suspension uses a split spring/shock

    you just replace the shock with a coilover type and remove the spring

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    I wouldn't trust a off/ rebranded item for such an important part of the car. Go with a reputable brand h&r?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dearlove View Post
    he means that the original suspension uses a split spring/shock

    you just replace the shock with a coilover type and remove the spring
    No you don't remove the spring.

    Spring still stays on the car, usually a shorter version to accompany the shortened shock. The spring will have a threaded collar to adjust the height for our cars (same with the rear of my VW MkV). Some companies now use a adjustable shock body to adjust the height of the car without changing any rebound/dampening effects.

    And no, coilovers do no ride stiff. For that reason, there are adjustable dampening, soft to stiff, it is up to you to choose from.

    The only brand that make coilovers for our W202 is KW Suspension that I know of. KW Suspensions are great, but they are very pricey. I have KW Suspensions Variant 3 on my VW MkV and they ride great.
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    I have run coilovers on my Subarus and they run considerably stiffer than a strut and spring set up, coilovers on a daily drivin car for appearance reasons is overkill

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97C28O View Post
    No you don't remove the spring.

    Spring still stays on the car, usually a shorter version to accompany the shortened shock. The spring will have a threaded collar to adjust the height for our cars (same with the rear of my VW MkV). Some companies now use a adjustable shock body to adjust the height of the car without changing any rebound/dampening effects.

    And no, coilovers do no ride stiff. For that reason, there are adjustable dampening, soft to stiff, it is up to you to choose from.

    The only brand that make coilovers for our W202 is KW Suspension that I know of. KW Suspensions are great, but they are very pricey. I have KW Suspensions Variant 3 on my VW MkV and they ride great.
    Bilstein also lists coilovers for our car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 97C28O View Post
    No you don't remove the spring.

    Spring still stays on the car, usually a shorter version to accompany the shortened shock. The spring will have a threaded collar to adjust the height for our cars (same with the rear of my VW MkV). Some companies now use a adjustable shock body to adjust the height of the car without changing any rebound/dampening effects.

    And no, coilovers do no ride stiff. For that reason, there are adjustable dampening, soft to stiff, it is up to you to choose from.

    The only brand that make coilovers for our W202 is KW Suspension that I know of. KW Suspensions are great, but they are very pricey. I have KW Suspensions Variant 3 on my VW MkV and they ride great.
    then these are not true coilovers....

    the rear cant convert to coilover without major mods, so the set up you explain is applicable there, on the fronts however you do remove the spring from the stock location

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    and for anyone that doesnt know, the word coilover is short for coil spring over shock absorber

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    the link I posted Are true coilovers, they are not hard to install and do not require major mods in the least

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    yeah, the ones you linked are a perfect example

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnolte View Post
    How can a w202 do coilovers they don't have the correct suspension
    was waiting for someone to point out that the W202 "coilovers" are nothing more than a lowering spring with a custom spring rate and sport struts with compression adjustment. The W202 cannot run a normal style coilover kit. its IRS and double wishbone up front. The kits come with a threaded spring perch that you put in place of your spring pad inside of the spring cup. And cost about half the price of the cars current value. The front would require modification to run if you buy a TRUE coilover kit one that is say universal for race applications KW and Bilstein offer these. You guys have obviously never seen The coilover kits currently offered for our cars in person I am assuming .. They look just like you bought a spring and strut combo unless you go with say KW v3's Full race dampening kit. then you're going to have to cut the spring cups off your chassis up front as well as cutting up the fender well to hold the pillow mount/ camber plate. PS. Coilovers ride STIFF AS F*** whoever said they dont. even when adjusted to full soft with dampening its nice and stiff . Got kw on my bros b5 a4 and they ride very firm even when not on full firm. just like a track suspension should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JA5ON View Post
    Sorry I have to totally disagree. The suspension on ALL w202 are wishbones and not McPherson type struts. Coil overs fit McPherson struts only.
    Concerning the link, the pictures are for a totally different setup. It says in the advert:
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    The product images displayed may not be specific to the make, model, and year car in this listing but are authentic Yellow Speed Racing parts. In addition, product images below may not reflect actual product shape, size, dimension, and color for this specific application. All product color details are provided in the specifications above...".

    Even KW do not make coil overs for w202's. The spring and dampers are located and fixed separately

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    My R32 GTR (Nissan skyline) has double wishbone, same as this, and runs coilovers

    i haven't had a good look under the car at the bottom of the shock attach yet, you could be right that they don't fit for some reason, and even when converting to coil over with mcpherson strut (190e) you dont need to cut off the spring perch

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    I've been having this idea in my mind but would it be possible to replace the shocks with coil over type shocks?

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    coilovers are expensive... 1000+ a kit... so if you're ready to spend that then go for it..

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    H&R+spring pads+bilstein shocks combo is the best route. not only is it much cheaper than coilovers, but also handles fine. imo

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    oh no doubt it handles fine, i have that set up in my w201

    however this car is for advertising my company = needs to be able to blow things off the track + still drive on the street when needed

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