birth of another C55

The conversion is happening. My C4.3L motor came out yetsterday (I actually feel sad & guilty). 5.4L is to go in today. I took a lot of pics; though the wife has the digital camera on her trip so I had to use our APS camera. Will have it developed to a CD.

Carl (coolcarlskic43) couldn't have been more correct. He set me up with a great guy to do it. The whole krew is a pisser; lots of euro tuner talent and "enthusiasm" (haven't seen a pissing contest to that degree about who's car can kick who's ass for about 20 years, but with wads of cash this time! ... though I figure that was answered in the wee hours of the morning after the work was done ). more to come.

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Nice. A few years ago (before E55 motors became more available) the cool W202 thing to do was forced induction. THis is definitely going to be the new hotness!

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about how much does the labor of this swap run, if I send it to same guy doing yours?

I assume all the parts cost around $8k

IT'S DONE!

It's Done ... And it's more then I could have imagined!

Right after restart, there was a "scarry" bunch of minutes (to me at least) with all the clanking coming out of the engine. After all, it had a complete valve job, so there was some concern in the back of my mind that not everything went together perfectly. But I was assured the lifters were so dry, it would take some time for it to "lube up". And that's what happened.

I let Jeff, the guy who did the work, have 1st crack at behind the wheel. Picture this -- a man who owns a turbo'ed C36 (used to be dual turbo measured @ 450hp @ the wheels, now one big honk'n turbo), who's no stranger to run'n it out and a good street race here and there -- exclaiming very enthusiastically saying things to the effect of "holy shit man, this car is fast ... this car can run..." (with three people in the car too). I'm not say'n my car's compared to his. But the fact that my car can impress a guy like that ... I'm freak'n on cloud nine.

Stock exhaust, Stock chip (on RON93 ignition retard), and it rips -- low milage engine with a good valve job making a lot of compression has a lot to do with it I'm told. I'm kind'a sorry I dished out the dough for chip'n it (wheels are in motion and I already paid 100%). But Carl and Jeff think I'll still get more out of it.

To answer, he spent I'd say, 20 hours on my job (25 - 30?). However realize, mine was in a fire, had crap throughout the cooling system so needed a few hours work to flush it clean; water and crap in the heads and some cylinders, so hours with that, had a valve job so was broken down to the point before removing the rods from the crank, then rebuilt , and needed =every= external part transfered from my C43 motor to the E55 motor (I basically got a long block with problems). Carl's job was more like 10 - 12 hrs I believe (not counting the post install problems they encountered due to the one of the cam's timing being off and the resolution of that).

I'm not going to estimate any cost though as every job is unique; I might owe Jeff more for the extra work he didn't expect with the original quote. But those are the hours. You should be able to get an engine from $5000 - $10000. The hourly or job rate to install. Plus ancillary parts that wear that you don't want to re-use on the new replacement, then plugs, fluids, etc.

I can't imagine a better man to do the job however.

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Last edited by 98c43amg on 06-06-2005 at 05:22 PM

It's just amazing just how fast Steve's car feels.I'd swear it feels a tad quicker than mines. Yep Steve's car is a real beast so now I understand that there are now four w202's in the US with the 5.4L motors installed and Jeff is now the builder of two of them.

Congratulations Steve!

I knew you'd love it.

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Thanx for everything Carl.
I still think your car feels more like a locomotive when it hits second. The RON93 setting I'm running just makes it jump off the line a bit more. Amazing how close the two cars are tho. (for all those reading, Carl and I played a bit. when we both sync'ed up a good launch for about a 3/16th mile run, the two were absolutely neck & neck) I kinda think if we ran it out through 4th you'd have me. I Gotta go for a dyno!

Jeff ... I'm die'n for that suspension!

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Last edited by 98c43amg on 06-06-2005 at 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by 98c43amg
Thanx for everything Carl.
I still think your car feels more like a locomotive when it hits second. The RON93 setting I'm running just makes it jump off the line a bit more. Amazing how close the two cars are tho. (for all those reading, Carl and I played a bit. when we both sync'ed up a good launch for about a 3/16th mile run, the two were absolutely neck & neck) I kinda think if we ran it out through 4th you'd have me. I Gotta go for a dyno!

Jeff ... I'm die'n for that suspension!

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wow.. nice.


and the two of you live in the same area...



need to start racing for pink slip



It would be awesome if the two of you playing with the badge-reengineering..
badging the car with 230K and the one with C280 LMAO


You can tottally smoke a lot of ricer out there, and they won't even know what hit'em



Regardz,

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Re: IT'S DONE!

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Originally posted by 98c43amg
You should be able to get an engine from $5000 - $10000. The hourly or job rate to install. Plus ancillary parts that wear that you don't want to re-use on the new replacement, then plugs, fluids, etc.

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For those very interested, I got the final Grand Total for =everything= [engine, shipping, labor, valve job, rebuild, parts, fluids, etc.] ... just a bit shy of $11K. I'm fine with that considering I can still get more by SC'ing it if this becomes tired or I want more, but if I SC'ed the 4.3L , that would have been it.

I know where there are two more E55 motors (one asking $10K, another $12K) if they were not sold (maybe three actually). Lemme know if you want me to dig up their contact info.

Personally, I don't know why Norman's white C43 > C55 conversion in SoCal hasn't sold ... and why he has to keep dropping the price. At the current price, it's a frigg'n steal (if perf is anything like mine & Carl's).

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Originally posted by J Irwan
It would be awesome if the two of you playing with the badge-reengineering.. badging the car with 230K and the one with C280 LMAO You can tottally smoke a lot of ricer out there, and they won't even know what hit'em

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hehe... well, I don't know if I'll go that far, but I'm taking Carl's approach and instead of my first thought of putting C55 badges on it, I'm keeping the C43 badges on it.

thanx much.

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Last edited by 98c43amg on 06-06-2005 at 11:01 PM

no one is buying it because people just don't buy modded cars, whether they don't trust the modding done, or they just want a stock car, a modded car has a very limited market, so good luck with that....

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Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
no one is buying it because people just don't buy modded cars, whether they don't trust the modding done, or they just want a stock car, a modded car has a very limited market, so good luck with that....

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In a way I can agree with you but your comment is way too general.I think it mainly depends on the car.There are plenty of modded Japanese cars that sell very well.Shall I name them? I've seen many a modded Porsche(911,944T) and BMW's get sold as well.

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Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
....so good luck with that....

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Good answer, but why the helll did you end it like that...? ruined the whole thing.

I'm not the one selling it ... I don't need the luck ... and it's a sarcastic, confrontational thing to say whether I was or not ... No wonder people jump on your ass when you post. And here I thought Club202.com had a "no a-holes" policy.

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Originally posted by 98c43amg
And here I thought Club202.com had a "no a-holes" policy.

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search. think. do. post.

OK lets get back on topic. About that w202 C43 to C55 conversion.........

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