C43/CLK55 Conversion

[RemoLexi]

Any and every European car has fuel gauge issues.

Paul, as far as coding the rear windows, it can be done but developer is required if I'm not mistaken. Certain modules get locked and you can't change coding in them without developer, if I'm not mistaken EIS would be where coding needs to be changed I remember being told it wouldn't provide power to any rear door module (since clks don't have rear doors) and the EIS is your first power up point.

Or.... Convert rear windows to manual roll haha problem solved!!

[AMG KC]

w202 had troubles with fuel gage sender, your might be faulty, i think there were 2 senders in fueltank

Yeah mate i did a search after that post, seems reasonably common!! Thanks

[Pagz]

KC,your consumption sounds about right!, I think around town is much higher though? xD

I saved the Clk's fuel senders for this reason,let us know how you get on with the repair!.

Remo,Thanks for the info I will start with the EIS coding! ..I will have to swat up on my german seeing as that's the only language developer's in(talk about mine field^^)
Mate suggested the same thing "oh well you'll just have to install manual winder's" haha ...NOOoo!!

[RemoLexi]

To be honest, before I sold my blue 36 that was next up on the list. It's was $40 for all 4 manual windows plus shipping from the Brits.

In your case you still have the fronts auto, who cares about the rear? You use that thing as a taxi or something? ;]

[AMG KC]

Just hard wire the rear switches to the relays for the rear regulators, youll lose auto but you aint got that now, so who cares

I probably wont bother with the senders for a while, ill track down and gather the parts though.

Next stop i reckon might be poly bushings in the front, im getting some clunks over low speed bumps. Does anyone do a poly bushing kit for the C43?

[DRBC43AMG]

Next stop i reckon might be poly bushings in the front, im getting some clunks over low speed bumps. Does anyone do a poly bushing kit for the C43?

You can get a full set of poly bushing from K-MAC http://www.k-mac.com.au/
but expect a rougher ride and perhaps some squeaks when driving. The kit offers adjustment of camber on both front and rear suspension. Not cheap stuff but probably worth it. I have a full set but I never have gotten round to installing the stuff...

[kowalski]

Yeah mate i did a search after that post, seems reasonably common!! Thanks

i think this shop has the best prices in UK?
http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/fuel-tank-sending-unit

[DRBC43AMG]

Pagz, I've just read the thread from page 1.
I am impressed with the work you have done and the result achieved. It's nice to see people trying out things which really work. I'll be doing the 55 conversion some day in the future, perhaps with a overhauled gearbox with stronger internals and a Quaife LSD. That should get things moving, and some bigger brakes to stop better. As I live in a country where one finds plenty of mountain roads, I manage to cook my brakes when going down mountain passes.
By the way, is there a reason for not going the secondary cats and central muffler delete as most owners of 43's do?

[AMG KC]

You can get a full set of poly bushing from K-MAC http://www.k-mac.com.au/
but expect a rougher ride and perhaps some squeaks when driving. The kit offers adjustment of camber on both front and rear suspension. Not cheap stuff but probably worth it. I have a full set but I never have gotten round to installing the stuff...

Awesome Thanks for that!! Im not overly concerned about the cost if it is a top quality product.

The ride is quite soft as it is compared to the way my 94 Corvette was with the Corvette Challenge race car front spring and 84 rear spring, it was VERY stiff. Sat very low and very flat around the turns. Id rather have the better handling though, its got a long way to go before its even close to a stiff ride!!

[AMG KC]

i think this shop has the best prices in UK?
http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/fuel-tank-sending-unit

No idea mate, im in Australia, but ill compare that with German Auto Spares when the time comes

[Pagz]

Remo, Were you looking to save wieght? Lets talk more about this after some failed SDS wizardry! having owned two doors I like my taxi four doors just fine thankyou haha=P.

KC, I once had some custom nolathanes made for the front,later when I finally went back to the oem bushes I was shocked at how much smoother the ride was, I'd never go back to solid but if you like the extra responce the solid bushes will help.

DRB, thanks!.. I'm really happy with how it turned out so far,it has been a bit tough as my garage was to small to house this project so for space I have been driving 2.5hrs south each time I needed to work on it, I had to plan weekends well ahead and any mistake ment waiting till next visit,I dont think I will do another project this way.
are there options to install higher temp pads in your MB calipers?. I really like the smooth refined sound of the factory exhaust,I have had many custom exhausts on all sorts of cars and my usual outcome is alot more cabin noise ..It seems also the older I get the more I just want smooth,powerfull and where nobody notices I'm flooring it^^however..Seeing as I now have a spare set of down pipes and cats from the clk55 I am very temped to modify and swap them out knowing I can always just bolt the cats back.

[AMG KC]

Yeah i know the difference because ive done these swaps on other vehicles before, but i didnt really buy this car for soft smooth ride!!

[AMG KC]

What is the recomended torque spec for the wheel studs?

[DRBC43AMG]

I torque all mine at 110 n/meters

[Pagz]

Yep DRB's right WIS specs 110Nm!

[AMG KC]

Thanks blokes ill have a check of mine later, i rarely trust the tyre fitters to get it right.

[AMG KC]

I have a new quest The E60.... Will that 6 litre fit straight in my C43?

Can only imagine it would create a serious monster

[nd4spd13]

Wow, what a thread. Pagz unreal work. The dedication to go through with all this is astounding, but thank's for actually going through with it all!
I started gathering parts a couple years ago to do an EGS-52 swap on my c43, but stopped when I learned of the trans tunnel modification. I've still got a facelift 210 cluster and black and white 210 steering wheel with controls plus I think 2 extra TCUs sitting around as reminders. Watching it all fleshed out in your pics it seems a lot simpler and also infinitely more daunting. Is the part you cut out of the trans tunnel marked at all? Or is that just where you decided to cut? Is all the raised front portion necessary to transfer, or could one just swap the part directly under the Tip shifter?

Next up should be command and paddle shifters. Paddles are where I originally got the inspiration to do mine.

Again fantastic work. Looks prime!

[AMG KC]

Even if you go paddles itll still be a full auto shift, with basically no control over upshift, and very poor control over downshift. When you push down gear on the shifter, it will drop you to the gear below the one youre in, which is pretty useless for the most.

Say youre in D, trans is in third, you want to preven it shifting to forth, you hit downshift, you shift to second. If only they made that one downshift press in that situation lock out forth and fifth instead of throwing you directly into the next gear below, it wouldve been much better and more useful.

The gated shifter allows you to select any gear any time with ease on the downshift, upshift is still full auto.

[Sulaco]

This thread is porn for me. Ooommmmgggggg please make some videos. There's a shocking lack of YouTube videos of w202 55 conversions. I want video of you smoking hoodlums by the end of the week!!

[nd4spd13]

Now that he's running EGS-52 he has a multitude of TCU tuning options that allow gear holding, downshift throttle-blipping, and faster shifts.

[Pagz]

Wow, what a thread. Pagz unreal work. The dedication to go through with all this is astounding, but thank's for actually going through with it all!
I started gathering parts a couple years ago to do an EGS-52 swap on my c43, but stopped when I learned of the trans tunnel modification. I've still got a facelift 210 cluster and black and white 210 steering wheel with controls plus I think 2 extra TCUs sitting around as reminders. Watching it all fleshed out in your pics it seems a lot simpler and also infinitely more daunting. Is the part you cut out of the trans tunnel marked at all? Or is that just where you decided to cut? Is all the raised front portion necessary to transfer, or could one just swap the part directly under the Tip shifter?

Next up should be command and paddle shifters. Paddles are where I originally got the inspiration to do mine.

Now that he's running EGS-52 he has a multitude of TCU tuning options that allow gear holding, downshift throttle-blipping, and faster shifts.

Again fantastic work. Looks prime!

Thanks man,Unfortunately I have EGS51 , upto 06/00 CLK55 is EGS51, this is an easier installation into C43 than EGS52 I noticed nearly all body modules update with EGS52 along with alot of wiring harnesses,mainly things like common interior light connection points become plugs instead of solder, but also updates to plugs like the engine harness/TB etc. also updates to ESP and sensors. looking back now maybe extra hard work and EGS52 would have been better but I cannot confirm if body modules would have played along.

The tunnel mod is fairly straight forward,you'll need the whole add on,cable trays and insulation to complete the oe finish.

A good quality air die grinder with carbide burr makes lite work of the spot welds, just take it slow to not remove any of the metal you want to retain and make sure your wearing plenty of protection and the car is well masked off with drop sheets,think millions of needles =D.

The hole I cut was traced off the factory hole that was cut from the CLK, when you remove the CLK/C tip add-on use a cut of wheel to remove about 50mm more than you need from the tunnel, then when you grind out the welds to seperate the add on you will be left with a template for the cutout on the C43.

The radio looks same on the CLK55,but it has different part number and has a CAN from cluster to radio to allow the multifunction. you could try install CAN from unpdated cluster to your C43 radio but I have not tried this so cannot garrentee.

I had a good look through a C63 last weekend,so much more of a cockpit and makes me want paddle shifters also, however unless you reprogram your TCU I think might be a bit slow with standard touchshift speeds

[nd4spd13]

Thanks man,Unfortunately I have EGS51 , upto 06/00 CLK55 is EGS51, this is an easier installation into C43 than EGS52 I noticed nearly all body modules update with EGS52 along with alot of wiring harnesses,mainly things like common interior light connection points become plugs instead of solder, but also updates to plugs like the engine harness/TB etc. also updates to ESP and sensors. looking back now maybe extra hard work and EGS52 would have been better but I cannot confirm if body modules would have played along.

The tunnel mod is fairly straight forward,you'll need the whole add on,cable trays and insulation to complete the oe finish.

A good quality air die grinder with carbide burr makes lite work of the spot welds, just take it slow to not remove any of the metal you want to retain and make sure your wearing plenty of protection and the car is well masked off with drop sheets,think millions of needles =D.

The hole I cut was traced off the factory hole that was cut from the CLK, when you remove the CLK/C tip add-on use a cut of wheel to remove about 50mm more than you need from the tunnel, then when you grind out the welds to seperate the add on you will be left with a template for the cutout on the C43.

The radio looks same on the CLK55,but it has different part number and has a CAN from cluster to radio to allow the multifunction. you could try install CAN from unpdated cluster to your C43 radio but I have not tried this so cannot garrentee.

I had a good look through a C63 last weekend,so much more of a cockpit and makes me want paddle shifters also, however unless you reprogram your TCU I think might be a bit slow with standard touchshift speeds

Really? I always that that tip = egs52? By what your saying, egs52 didn't directly correlate to Tiptronic nor Speedshift, they were all separate updates? That all seems odd... You have confirmed that the CLK TCU you installed said egs51 on it, yes? Is there any indication in the TCU numbers whether it is Tip enabled or not?

Thanks for the help. I spent a few too many hours looking up scrap CLK55s around my area It's remarkable you can find a few here for barely more than it would cost to source a 55 engine alone.

[Pagz]

Even if you go paddles itll still be a full auto shift, with basically no control over upshift, and very poor control over downshift. When you push down gear on the shifter, it will drop you to the gear below the one youre in, which is pretty useless for the most.

Say youre in D, trans is in third, you want to preven it shifting to forth, you hit downshift, you shift to second. If only they made that one downshift press in that situation lock out forth and fifth instead of throwing you directly into the next gear below, it wouldve been much better and more useful.

The gated shifter allows you to select any gear any time with ease on the downshift, upshift is still full auto.

As you say its not perfect for all situtations but I really like the touch shift/w gear selection on the dash,especially tapping down a gear. I have driven the touchshift before for short durations and didnt think much of it initially however having used the gate for a year or so now then changing I think tip is far better for all round driving. I'm not sure about others but I always find myself looking at the gate to check which gear I'm in or if it's back in D!.

This thread is porn for me. Ooommmmgggggg please make some videos. There's a shocking lack of YouTube videos of w202 55 conversions. I want video of you smoking hoodlums by the end of the week!!

It's on my list , I would like to get a dyno run overlayed with my old turbo setup, also a run down the 1/4 etc. atm I'm refreshing usual suspension suspects!

[Pagz]

I have a new quest The E60.... Will that 6 litre fit straight in my C43?

Can only imagine it would create a serious monster

You would have a hard time fitting that old brick in , think quad cams!