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Hi guys, I have IR remote locking system with immobilizer (receiver is installed in interrior mirror).
I'm reading manual atm and it says this:
"For safety reasons, it is only possible to close the side windows and sunroof when close to the car"
Does this mean that it can't be closed by a remote or what?
If it can, tell me the winning combination.
;-)
kameraguy
12-07-2006, 05:08 AM
If the IR system you have is OEM, you *should* be able to lock your doors/close all windows/close sunroof at the same time by pressing and holding your lock button on key fob. You have to be close to the car due to the IR range. At least this is true for 1997.
Originally posted by kameraguy
If the IR system you have is OEM, you *should* be able to lock your doors/close all windows/close sunroof at the same time by pressing and holding your lock button on key fob. You have to be close to the car due to the IR range. At least this is true for 1997.
Yep, it is OEM, but my car is 1996, maybe that is the reason why it doesn't close windows and sunroof, dunno.
matt09
12-07-2006, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by grga
Yep, it is OEM, but my car is 1996, maybe that is the reason why it doesn't close windows and sunroof, dunno.
I have a 96 C280 and all windows and sunroof close when I hold the button on the remote.
bish0p
12-07-2006, 09:52 AM
i have a 95 c280 and it works too.sometimes it takes a couple of tries cuz the ir is hard to pick up, but it works
To be honest, I didn't even try that till a moment ago. It doesn't work (red light keeps flashing and flashing...), BUT, I can remember that I could close my windows and sunroof when I pull out key, now I can't...
Hm...
:-(
Polestar
12-07-2006, 04:01 PM
Try this: Lock your car with your remote, now standing about 2 ft away from your drivers door, press on the "unlock" button and hold down 10 seconds. This should open all doors and windows. Now press the "lock" button and hold down 10 seconds. If none of that works you may need to reset your windows. Refer to manual.
SLAMMED_C
12-07-2006, 07:17 PM
I think its only the smart keys that than open and close windows and sunroof with the IR on the remote.. I think since your car has the red/green flashing lights on the mirror it wil not work.. different system.
try this though.. lock the car with the remote.. put the mechanical key in the door lock.. and turn it to unlock.. but hold the key in teh unlock position.. it might drop teh windows and open the sunroof.. I know it works.. just dont remember what car.. Im pretty sure its the W210's with the older syle flip keys.
give it a try.
benzonline
12-07-2006, 07:21 PM
My friend's 94 C220 did as explained above, with the old fashioned MB original key. Insert in door and hold to the unlock position...all windows and roof will open. Hold to the lock position and all will close.
The only bad thing in all that is because I have mechanical door lock only on passenger side, not on driver side of the door. I have only red-green light on my left door...
Originally posted by matt09
I have a 96 C280 and all windows and sunroof close when I hold the button on the remote.
Could you please do one test for me m8?
See this, some time before, when I shut off the engine and pull key out, and OPEN the door, I could lift window or close the sunroof. When door is closed, nothing works.
Well, nothing from that works now, I canlift windows and close/open sunroof ONLY when key is in driving position (all cluster lamps on). Tell me please how is that in your car.
Second, how long do you have to hold your lock/unlock key on your remote when you lock your car and close window or sunroof together, (my only keep and keep red light flashing, as long as I hold lock/unlock key)?
Tnx!
I'll upload picture of my remote key and you'll see how it looks like.
Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
.. lock the car with the remote.. put the mechanical key in the door lock.. and turn it to unlock.. but hold the key in teh unlock position.. it might drop teh windows and open the sunroof.. I know it works.. just dont remember what car.. Im pretty sure its the W210's with the older syle flip keys.
give it a try.
I did that and nothing, mechanical door lock unlock only that door, central locking feature doesn't even work that way...
Uuuuhhh, I know that I'm close but I don't know how to get it to work. :-))
kameraguy
12-08-2006, 05:11 AM
btw- Have you tried the driver's door or trunk IR sensor yet? I think it only works with them, not the rear-view mirror (can't remember where I heard that...).
Originally posted by kameraguy
btw- Have you tried the driver's door or trunk IR sensor yet? I think it only works with them, not the rear-view mirror (can't remember where I heard that...).
Yep, I found out that recently too, remote contacts with central locking over radio signal and with window/sunroof closing over IR signal, so there must be IR receiver somewhere. The thing is that I can't actually find that IR receiver on my driver's door. Maybe it's covered with paint or maybe it doesn't even exist...
If someone have close picture of driver's door it could be very helpfull...
kameraguy
12-08-2006, 06:36 AM
Hmmm, i'm only familiar with what the '97 driver's door IR sensor looks like:
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/362/04mv9r24774ri.jpg
Does yours have this area? As you can see it also illuminates so it'd be hard to miss unless it's not present. or maybe it's there but the sensor is dead.
Do you also have a sensor like this for the trunk? I changed my trunklid so i don't have it anymore, but I seem to recall being able to close my windows and sunroof from the trunk sensor too.
This is a picture of my door handle few moments ago...
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6145/doorua7.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorua7.jpg)
kameraguy
12-08-2006, 07:03 AM
So you do have the sensor. Does it illuminate when you lock or unlock the doors?
Originally posted by kameraguy
So you do have the sensor. Does it illuminate when you lock or unlock the doors?
Yep, red light when lock and green light when unlock the door. Rear view mirror does the same.
kameraguy
12-08-2006, 07:24 AM
So when you hold your keyfob to the door sensor, you need to hold down the lock button and keep holding it. You should see the door sensor illuminate red and after a few moments your windows and sunroof should also close.
if this doesn't work, try your trunk sensor.
if these both do not work, then it appears there is a problem.
You said this worked before? Did anything change since you last recall it working?
Originally posted by kameraguy
So when you hold your keyfob to the door sensor, you need to hold down the lock button and keep holding it. You should see the door sensor illuminate red and after a few moments your windows and sunroof should also close.
if this doesn't work, try your trunk sensor.
if these both do not work, then it appears there is a problem.
You said this worked before? Did anything change since you last recall it working?
Yes, I hold it down while locking doors but it only keeps flashing red light and nothing else happens.
Trunk sensor? Where is it, dunno really...
I didn't say that it worked, I never tried before, I said that my windows and sunroof worked while my key isn't in driving position (engine turned off)and at least one door is open. Now, everything is "dead" after I pull out key.
Denlasoul
12-08-2006, 08:00 AM
Are your windows programmed for one touch open/close using the buttons on the shifter?
That may have an effect. Check to see if your windows are one touch, then try the IR open/close.
Originally posted by Denlasoul
Are your windows programmed for one touch open/close using the buttons on the shifter?
That may have an effect. Check to see if your windows are one touch, then try the IR open/close.
Yes, I can do one touch openning, but not closing.
Denlasoul
12-08-2006, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by grga
Yes, I can do one touch openning, but not closing.
You may have to program your windows to one touch close in order to use the IR to close as well.
Can anyone verify?
Originally posted by Denlasoul
You may have to program your windows to one touch close in order to use the IR to close as well.
Can anyone verify?
Well, I'd like to do that but dunno how...
I have smth like duble click when I open front windows. Uderstand? When I push it harder, it's one touch openning.
kameraguy
12-08-2006, 08:50 AM
I think you need to have the dealership program this feature (window/sunroof close upon IR lock). It seems your car has this disabled from the factory. i do not know if this was a standard feature, however the MB DIAG tool can enable and adjust certain features of the car.
As an example, I had the dealer disable the 30 second headlight illumination when you turn the vehicle off at night. That was annoying.
There may be a way to enable window/sunroof close upon door lock this way.
Either way, it seems your car doesn't have the program for this feature at this time.
crazy00c230k
12-08-2006, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by grga
Well, I'd like to do that but dunno how...
I have smth like duble click when I open front windows. Uderstand? When I push it harder, it's one touch openning.
well if u want to give it a try its a pretty simple process just put the window up using the "first click" and hold it for 3 seconds(pretty sure it was 3 seconds i did this a while ago, i just remember it wasnt a ridiculous amount of time) remember u have to put it up and hold it at the "first click" position, and it should be programmed to auto up w/the "second click" same thing for going down.
Originally posted by crazy00c230k
well if u want to give it a try its a pretty simple process just put the window up using the "first click" and hold it for 3 seconds(pretty sure it was 3 seconds i did this a while ago, i just remember it wasnt a ridiculous amount of time) remember u have to put it up and hold it at the "first click" position, and it should be programmed to auto up w/the "second click" same thing for going down.
For "window up" function I have one, single click option only. Just for "Window down" function I have two clicks, when I push button more harder it just goes down till the end.
Very usefull when you have to open your window and hold your hands on the wheel at the same time.
Nope, just have tried and nothing changed... Window stops when going up and I release the button.
crazy00c230k
12-08-2006, 09:39 PM
ic, i guess pre-model update cars dont have auto up, my bad i thought every year had auto up and down
97C28O
12-08-2006, 09:53 PM
my car can close/ open windows with the key. You gotta hold the lock for like 10secs and press it again to unlock quickly and it will open the windows.. no sun roof. if you hold the lock it will close all windows.. Whats the trick to the TRUNK opener? I tried other ways but only pressing the button quickly like 5x will open the trunk...
Originally posted by 97C28O
my car can close/ open windows with the key. You gotta hold the lock for like 10secs and press it again to unlock quickly and it will open the windows.. no sun roof. if you hold the lock it will close all windows.. Whats the trick to the TRUNK opener? I tried other ways but only pressing the button quickly like 5x will open the trunk...
My should do that too, at least I think it should, because I got extra user manual for that kind of locking and unlocking feature, besides OEM user manual, I'll take photo of that later in the afternoon. However, my trunk can't be open in any way besides manual because I don't have that feature in my car.
Well, the other thing is that, when I point my remote to the door handle, I loose my signal to rear view mirror and red light stops flashing, actually I can lock and unlock my car when I point my key to mirror, no other way. And IR receiver for "key closing windows" should be in driver's door handle, shouldn't it?
kameraguy
12-09-2006, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by 97C28O
Whats the trick to the TRUNK opener? I tried other ways but only pressing the button quickly like 5x will open the trunk...
For the trunk, you have to press the keyfob twice, but the trick is how fast you press it.
First press the keyfob once towards the trunk sensor to see the green confirmation. ONCE you see the green confirmation, press and hold the keyfob again. You know you got it when the IR sensor flases a second time but stays on slightly delayed. The trunk should open after that.
For my trunk, I changed the spring location to the furthest away hole so the trunk will spring up. Otherwise it may not.
btw- this works with ALL the sensors...at least for 1997.
kameraguy
12-09-2006, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by grga
Well, the other thing is that, when I point my remote to the door handle, I loose my signal to rear view mirror and red light stops flashing, actually I can lock and unlock my car when I point my key to mirror, no other way. And IR receiver for "key closing windows" should be in driver's door handle, shouldn't it?
The problem you are having sounds like a bad door IR sensor. You should be able to lock and unlock your car from it, and if it's bad it could explain why you can't do the window/sunroof close operation. Yes, you point towards the driver's door IR sensor for the window/sunroof operation. Have you tried the trunk IR sensor too? It should work there as well. If it does, then it confirms something is up with the door. If it DOESN'T work it sounds like your car doesn't have this feature programmed.
Originally posted by kameraguy
The problem you are having sounds like a bad door IR sensor. You should be able to lock and unlock your car from it, and if it's bad it could explain why you can't do the window/sunroof close operation. Yes, you point towards the driver's door IR sensor for the window/sunroof operation. Have you tried the trunk IR sensor too? It should work there as well. If it does, then it confirms something is up with the door. If it DOESN'T work it sounds like your car doesn't have this feature programmed.
Hm, maybe it's funny but I really don't know where is trunk sensor in my car. If you mean on electric power trunk, me don't have it. When I move my key close to door sensor and point into it, I can't lock or unlock ma car. I can do it only when I point key to rear view mirror inside.
kameraguy
12-09-2006, 08:59 AM
If you have an IR trunk sensor, you will know it. It looks like your door sensor, but right next to the mechanical trunk lock. Sorry, I do not know if 1996 had them.
Originally posted by kameraguy
If you have an IR trunk sensor, you will know it. It looks like your door sensor, but right next to the mechanical trunk lock. Sorry, I do not know if 1996 had them.
Nope, I don't have it, for sure. Just a sec, I'll go to my car and take a photo of that user manual...
97C28O
12-09-2006, 09:07 AM
I forgot to mention... those features, opening/closing windows, will only work with the driver side door!
Originally posted by 97C28O
I forgot to mention... those features, opening/closing windows, will only work with the driver side door!
Of course, passenger side doesn't even have IR receiver...
97C28O
12-09-2006, 09:15 AM
Well you mentioned the rear view mirror..... But the trunk opener is the one on the trunk:)
kameraguy
12-09-2006, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by 97C28O
I forgot to mention... those features, opening/closing windows, will only work with the driver side door!
Hmmmm, ok I reconnected my trunk sensor and confirmed I was able to close my windows and sunroof with the trunk sensor too. I have a 97 C36 for reference.
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