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OCKlasse
02-08-2007, 05:36 PM
So, after much debate as to what I was going to do with my car next, I have decided to take it one step further and do something I have yet to see on a W202 before. I will be doing a 2 pump 4 dump hydraulic setup.

Now I know the performance guys are going to say that I have committed sacrilege for this, but basically here are my reasons for going this route:

1.) I want the adjustability (and I will never have to worry about scraping, rubbing, or uneven tire wear ever again).

2.) Ride will be better than stock (via accumulators)

3.) Come on? How gangsta is a Juiced Benz? :beard:

Now to the guys who will say that I have lost all the handling and performance of my car, I have had an epiphany: my car is slow, it will continue to be slow, and that is something I have to live with...

Basically, I have decided to do hydraulics over an air bag setup (because of my lack of welder for fabricating mounts - not to mention much more knowledge in the hydraulic field), and I will keep you guys posted as I make the journey. I am expecting to have this project done by April, and expect the car to easily tuck 2" of rim all the way around :D

Here is my car for reference:

http://boostjunky.com/gallery/albums/album08/DSC06761.jpg

jnolte
02-08-2007, 05:42 PM
who shot a hole in my sombrero:beard:

OCKlasse
02-08-2007, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by jnolte
who shot a hole in my sombrero:beard:

:D

Lensolo
02-08-2007, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by OCKlasse
So, after much debate as to what I was going to do with my car next, I have decided to take it one step further and do something I have yet to see on a W202 before. I will be doing a 2 pump 4 dump hydraulic setup.

Now I know the performance guys are going to say that I have committed sacrilege for this, but basically here are my reasons for going this route:

1.) I want the adjustability (and I will never have to worry about scraping, rubbing, or uneven tire wear ever again).

2.) Ride will be better than stock (via accumulators)

3.) Come on? How gangsta is a Juiced Benz? :beard:

Now to the guys who will say that I have lost all the handling and performance of my car, I have had an epiphany: my car is slow, it will continue to be slow, and that is something I have to live with...

Basically, I have decided to do hydraulics over an air bag setup (because of my lack of welder for fabricating mounts - not to mention much more knowledge in the hydraulic field), and I will keep you guys posted as I make the journey. I am expecting to have this project done by April, and expect the car to easily tuck 2" of rim all the way around :D



That's great man! Always good to see people taking risks and going way out there with their cars. I know you know what you're doing so good luck with it, man! Keep us posted on the progress!

OCKlasse
02-08-2007, 06:38 PM
I think you and 714 are perhaps like the nicest guys I have ever met in my life...thanks for the kind words...I'll definitely keep you posted Leonard!

ron
02-08-2007, 07:11 PM
as soon as i get some more cash im gna go airbag, talked to a guy from airbagit.com good site nice guy i wanna do the plug n play kit

unless the hydraulics r cheaper, how much urs gna cost ya?

OCKlasse
02-08-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by ron
as soon as i get some more cash im gna go airbag, talked to a guy from airbagit.com good site nice guy i wanna do the plug n play kit

unless the hydraulics r cheaper, how much urs gna cost ya?

On our cars, there is no such thing as a plug and play kit...that is why I am doing hydraulics instead (that is my major reason). To get the bags to fit, you have to fabricate bag mounts, and then once that is done, you need to fabricate new shock mounts, so there is a fair amount of fabrication required.

Everything brand new is going to cost me around $1400, and that is for brand new stuff. I am having my brother help me install it (he has done well over two dozen installs), and that right there is saving me a lot of money.

DRM
02-08-2007, 07:49 PM
that's going to look real fresh man!

lewda
02-08-2007, 08:01 PM
scrappie scrape scrape...always tight to see the sparks fly, haha

trymonlam
02-08-2007, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by jnolte
who shot a hole in my sombrero:beard:
HAHAHAHAHAHA.....
:D :D :D

OCKlasse
02-08-2007, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by lewda
scrappie scrape scrape...always tight to see the sparks fly, haha

haha no draggin with my baby...just an occasional three wheel or pancacke to side to impress the ladies :p

Luwin1026
02-08-2007, 08:58 PM
No accusations of sacrilege here - it's great to see members try new things and take risks - love custom/new stuff. Props to you for going this route, and can't wait to see the results in pics, and hopefully in person. It's going to be fly, man, just fly . . . ;)

OCKlasse
02-08-2007, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Luwin1026
No accusations of sacrilege here - it's great to see members try new things and take risks - love custom/new stuff. Props to you for going this route, and can't wait to see the results in pics, and hopefully in person. It's going to be fly, man, just fly . . . ;)

wow...thanks man! I'm really feelin' the love from you guys...I thought I was going to be bashed to death...I really feel like part of the 202 brotherhood :bunny: and you bet your ass it will be fly! ;)

crazy00c230k
02-09-2007, 02:46 AM
hydros, sounds like it should be interesting, good luck man cant wait to see it

lewda
02-09-2007, 06:34 AM
hell yeah, ive always thought hydros were kinda cool, always tight to just pull up next to someone at the light, perferably a lady, and just drop the thing, haha, thats always the silly cool...

714guy
02-09-2007, 07:49 AM
Hey let me know when you install it I want to see... maybe I can even be of help... Awesome news!

OCKlasse
02-09-2007, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by 714guy
Hey let me know when you install it I want to see... maybe I can even be of help... Awesome news!

When I install them, I will never have to fear scraping that beautiful front bumper of mine :)...do you want to see it as it's being installed? My brother and I have it pretty much under control, but you're more than welcome to hang with us while we do it if you want. If not, you'll be the first person I show it to you when I finish Jason!

OCKlasse
02-09-2007, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by lewda
hell yeah, ive always thought hydros were kinda cool, always tight to just pull up next to someone at the light, perferably a lady, and just drop the thing, haha, thats always the silly cool...

exactly!

OCKlasse
02-09-2007, 08:13 AM
Just to show you guys Hydraulics are not only for Mexican lowriders, check out my buddy Aaron's ride for sell - definitely one of my inspiration cars:

http://artofnoize.com/Cars/aaron/DSC00073.jpg
http://artofnoize.com/Cars/aaron/DSC00069.jpg

and here is brother's car from ten years ago now...still looks awesome even today...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/trefiveincognito/Past%20rides/accord.jpg

ron
02-09-2007, 09:11 AM
Yousaid it wont be plug and play but if its not then why did the guy from airbagit.com tell me they had a regular kit formy car and a plug and play kit?

OCKlasse
02-09-2007, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by ron
Yousaid it wont be plug and play but if its not then why did the guy from airbagit.com tell me they had a regular kit formy car and a plug and play kit?

I went and looked at the site...it seems that he does make brackets for our car (rear only according to the website), but they must still be welded into the car (I don't have a welder). Now he may have an "air-rod" (or air cylinders as they are also called) kit for our cars (that would be considered plug and play), but I personally don't like air-rod suspension because it does not go low enough for me.

ron
02-09-2007, 12:04 PM
Alright so If I wanted to do hydraulics how hard would it be for me since I dont have your brother?

OCKlasse
02-09-2007, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by ron
Alright so If I wanted to do hydraulics how hard would it be for me since I dont have your brother?

I would not reccomend doing it if you have no knowledge of them.

rman
02-09-2007, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by ron
as soon as i get some more cash im gna go airbag, talked to a guy from airbagit.com good site nice guy i wanna do the plug n play kit

unless the hydraulics r cheaper, how much urs gna cost ya?

lol.
airbagit.com, AIM, chassistech, truckin.com, etc.
Those are all the BIGGEST WASTE OF MONEY in the world. They have horrible products, horrible customer service, and a horrible owner.

Their products are known for not working, breaking, and being complete pieces of shit.

They are the biggest NO-NO in the truckin' industry, which is where air suspensions reign king.

PLEEEEAAAAASE never consider them again. Do a search and you'll see all the lawsuits, all the websites, and all the name changes.

DRM
02-09-2007, 06:13 PM
hey man, I found some photos on my computer, might give you some idea! don't know if they are bagged or hydro though:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Drmzxjd/ha334.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Drmzxjd/ha331.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Drmzxjd/43903.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Drmzxjd/439viewimage02.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Drmzxjd/439viewimage.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Drmzxjd/131.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Drmzxjd/13111.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Drmzxjd/1311.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Drmzxjd/619200580332AM40161.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Drmzxjd/aey.jpg

rman
02-09-2007, 06:50 PM
cool, those last pics are the ones i put up in a thread awhile back. the black 202s are bagged, i've talked to both online regarding there setups.

i was planning on going bagged, to me that's much simpler than hydros since i know nothing about hydros.

but i do not plan on keeping this car for much longer, my next vehicle will be a road warrior so no bags, but one day i'll pick up a 65 lincoln continental and bag that

FWIW, i have been told (and conceptualized) that bagging a 202 is fairly simple

Lensolo
02-09-2007, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by OCKlasse
I think you and 714 are perhaps like the nicest guys I have ever met in my life...thanks for the kind words...I'll definitely keep you posted Leonard!

Hey thanks, man! That's very cool of you to say!

...now get da pumps on!:D

c280nz
02-09-2007, 07:49 PM
Wow, i hadnt seen those pics b4. im already jelous of how bad ass your cars gona be OC!
Whats the differece between hydrolics and bags? if i am right isnt the hydro's like a hydrolic ram? where would you mount these in our cars? where the springs wer or where the shocks are?
-awsome project
a guy round were i live had airbags in his 202 but they were real slow at going up and down, and even that was gangsta.
Now u just need the numberplate marfia
haha -long rant-

OCKlasse
02-09-2007, 08:24 PM
The biggest difference between hydraulics and bags is hydraulics force oil into a cylinder to raise the car, and bags fill an air bag with air to raise the car. There are definitely pros and cons to both. Our cars are definitely among "the easiest" to bag, just because we have a suspension with a separate coil and shock. Macpherson cars require "strut-bags" which do not go low and are rather stupid.

My biggest reason for hydraulics is just the fact, in my opinion, that they're a little cooler than bags just because not as many people do them, you also get considerably more lift with hydraulics then with bags (you know, in case I ever want to take my car off-roading :p) also as I have stated numerous time before, I also do not have access to a welder and do not have time to let my car sit in a shop while someone fabricates mounts for me.

OCKlasse
02-09-2007, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by DRM
hey man, I found some photos on my computer, might give you some idea! don't know if they are bagged or hydro though:


Thanks for the pics DRM! I have never seen that first 202, but that thing is awesome! All the others I know are bagged, and I would say it's fair to assume that he probably is too. That car is so hott!

Proven Guilty
02-10-2007, 09:20 AM
*cough* wald *cough* :D

lewda
02-10-2007, 10:14 AM
gross...that black C is the epitome of disgusting.....that is by far one of the worst modded out mercede's ive ever seen...somebody throw that guy a turdy ol' honda...

jnolte
02-10-2007, 07:07 PM
this means you will need to have a trunk full of nasty batterys. Id go Air ride instead

ryhi
02-10-2007, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by jnolte
this means you will need to have a trunk full of nasty batterys. Id go Air ride instead

yea i knew someone with a juiced s class and somehow terminals touched from loose batteries and Fd everything up. be careful when you mount those batteries.

OCKlasse
02-10-2007, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by jnolte
this means you will need to have a trunk full of nasty batterys. Id go Air ride instead


Originally posted by ryhi
yea i knew someone with a juiced s class and somehow terminals touched from loose batteries and Fd everything up. be careful when you mount those batteries.

Optimas are your best friend :banana:

I am only running two Optima yellow tops. This will be enough to last me roughly a week between charges.

rman
02-11-2007, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by OCKlasse
Optimas are your best friend :banana:

I am only running two Optima yellow tops. This will be enough to last me roughly a week between charges.

STREET CHARGER!!!!

OCKlasse
02-11-2007, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by rman
STREET CHARGER!!!!

yeah...I just have to get over the price of it...and the fact that my charge will never be where it needs to be (since it always be on the charger)

taimyshukah
02-15-2007, 12:25 AM
I was on youtube and found a vid of a 202 wagon with hydraulics. Pretty cool, minus the rims. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOHD5QbCpM8

DRM
02-15-2007, 12:40 AM
lol that's so tough. A New Zealander as well! there are more pics on http://www.uniquetints.com

ryhi
02-15-2007, 12:58 AM
i actually love those rims. lowenhart LDRs are some hard ballin stuff. i wish i could affoed to put those on my 202. i think carlo has a few sets of ldrs for sale.

NEA-4311
02-15-2007, 03:07 AM
Yeah the rims are fine. car is also cool but maaan... dont do it. I believe you will ruin your car. I mean dont you have to put all the hydralics stuff inside your trunk? And the weigh... oh my god! How do you expect to drive to work or anywhere else on this thing? Apart from autoshows etc. Oh well, do whatever fits you.

OCKlasse
02-15-2007, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by NEA-4311
Yeah the rims are fine. car is also cool but maaan... dont do it. I believe you will ruin your car. I mean dont you have to put all the hydralics stuff inside your trunk? And the weigh... oh my god! How do you expect to drive to work or anywhere else on this thing? Apart from autoshows etc. Oh well, do whatever fits you.

all of it except for my batteries will be hidden underneath in the spare tire well...this car will be a nicer daily just because of the smooth ride and lack of worrying about speed bumps, sharp turns, etc... :)...oh and 202 wagon is HOTT

jnolte
02-15-2007, 11:36 AM
that wagon was one of the lamest things ive ever seen. it made me lol many times watching it shake back and forth.

OCKlasse
02-15-2007, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by jnolte
that wagon was one of the lamest things ive ever seen. it made me lol many times watching it shake back and forth.

but you have got to admit that when it was laid out it looked awesome...

jnolte
02-15-2007, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by OCKlasse
but you have got to admit that when it was laid out it looked awesome...

this is true

OCKlasse
02-15-2007, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by jnolte
this is true

:D

benzofanatic
02-15-2007, 08:11 PM
I think that is a good project and good luck, its gunna be sooo nice. Thats what i hate about springs is that you cant raise it for a speed bump or something. I was talking to a guy at Car Nutz about doing this and he said it would cost around $4,000 to have it installed (one guy there had his 203 on bags-looked sick).

im so jealous of that guys garage in the fist pic with the silver c230, thats what i want when i get a house.

Proven Guilty
02-16-2007, 06:38 AM
i just don't like the cheesy jerkiness of a suspension setup like that (aside from the obvious performance/handling loss).

if i were to have a "VIP" style ride like that, I would want it to be smooth as hell up and down, and would probably only want front/back for height navigation from steep driveways.

is it true that bags, while generally slower, are smoother going up and down?

OCKlasse
02-16-2007, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by Proven Guilty
i just don't like the cheesy jerkiness of a suspension setup like that (aside from the obvious performance/handling loss).

if i were to have a "VIP" style ride like that, I would want it to be smooth as hell up and down, and would probably only want front/back for height navigation from steep driveways.

is it true that bags, while generally slower, are smoother going up and down?

Bags are smoother, but with loud ass compressors. If I wanted just up and down motion I could have it, but I want to be able to throw a side if the need arises ;) in all actuality, the handling would be worse with bags, because I don't even know if I could fit shocks in the rear. Bags are played out when it comes to VIP, that's why a lot of the Japanese also run hydraulics...bottom line is I don't want to weld a bunch of shit into my suspension.

Bryan858
03-12-2007, 05:25 PM
Bags have come a long way since they first came out and become popular. I remember my buddy had some and blew one out so the car was lopsided for awhile. Now I think the reliability has drasstically improved through the use of newer beter materials the speed they can adjust is also pretty impressive.. I Have to agree though The added noise of the compressor and all just doesn't go with the benz... Hydros are awesome dependable and can move at the flick of a swith.. If I had a choice and the money I'd go with hydros but for now I am broke and thinking about just cutting the springs till I can afford some springs.. Good luck in the project and can't wait to see some pics of the install and final project..

PS. Car looks great what year? If I ever get arround to cutting my springs mind if I ask for some info.. Ahahha, I'm a newbie to the benz world and cutting springs although I have lots of mechanical expereince and even a licensed smog mechanic...
Good luck again - Bryan

rman
03-12-2007, 05:39 PM
from the looks of it the wagon is on bags.... hydros would be much faster and tons more lift.

if i keep my 202, i'll bag it for sure, with a crazy bag setup. Like FBSS and a few others, fat ass lines, and some SS DSV valves. 2 solenoids per valve, so it can open the full way and go UP or DOWN hard, or open just a tiny big and get the granpa-stylee lift/rise.

Now that i'm not getting the truck for awhile, i'm starting to like the 202 again. Only bad thing is I drive the shit out of it, about 2000-2200 miles the past 2 weeks.

Anyhow, OCK, how's the project going? And what is all involved in juicing a 202. I've already looked at bagging it and it doesn't look hard at all. You say juice is easier, how so? I know little about hydros so school me bro!

rman
03-12-2007, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Bryan858

PS. Car looks great what year? If I ever get arround to cutting my springs mind if I ask for some info.. Ahahha, I'm a newbie to the benz world and cutting springs although I have lots of mechanical expereince and even a licensed smog mechanic...
Good luck again - Bryan

dude where in SD are you from and what shop do you work at?

Bryan858
03-12-2007, 08:18 PM
Budget transmisson. Out in Mira Mesa.
How about you buddy?

I'm really considering cutting them this weekend but I have a 95 So I don't think I can cut the same # of coils to get the same kind of drop as OCK.
Anyone have a 95 with cut springs? Brand of springs, # of coils cut from top or bottom, and maybe a pic would be great..
Ahahah, I don't want to jack this thread so I'll just start my own... - Bryan

OCKlasse
03-12-2007, 08:50 PM
UPDATE:

Went today and bought 95% of the goods I needed (pumps, dumps, cylinders, fittings - not pictured are hoses and solenoids). All I need now are batteries and accumulators (~ $700 more) and I'll be good to go! Expect to see this done around early May. There is no backing out for me!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/IMG_0432.jpg

OCKlasse
03-13-2007, 01:02 PM
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jnolte
03-13-2007, 01:06 PM
SWEET!

OCKlasse
03-13-2007, 01:09 PM
I know! I got an incredible deal for all my stuff! It's all brand new, and the best of the best, so no issues (knock on wood)!

jnolte
03-13-2007, 02:38 PM
dont mind me, but how much cheddar so far?

OCKlasse
03-13-2007, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by jnolte
dont mind me, but how much cheddar so far?

$950

benzofanatic
03-13-2007, 09:21 PM
wow thats not bad for what your gettin

OCKlasse
03-13-2007, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by benzofanatic
wow thats not bad for what your gettin

Yeah!...not to mention, like I said, I have many upgrades in this setup.

MirageHatch
03-13-2007, 11:48 PM
ive always planned on putting air in my C but the expense has made it out of reach.

.....SO......I'll get to feel at least 20% of the enjoyment purely from watching you juice your C!

nice one.

bish0p
03-14-2007, 12:33 AM
looks good OCKlasse! I want to do this for my car also, but it's a little too expensive for me. I want my car to be pretty low when i'm driving. but when i park and open the door i want it to automatically settle down. hehe like sit a little lower like some suvs i've seen out there. I love your car ocklasse. you live somewhat near me, i can't wait to meet you at any upcoming meets

ryhi
03-14-2007, 01:46 AM
when you're done u better help me with air setup!

rman
03-14-2007, 07:08 AM
bryan - i live in PQ, but frequent MM all the time. hell, i work there, and i believe lensolo does as well.
As far as cutting springs, just do it. And cut from the bottom, so the pigtail can reseat in the LCA.

OCK - lookin good dude! that shit has got me interested!``

OCKlasse
03-14-2007, 09:27 AM
Thanks guys! I can't wait to get all this stuff put on, and show all of you at the next big summer meet! You better all be there!

OCKlasse
03-14-2007, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by ryhi
when you're done u better help me with air setup!

haha for sure...just remember why I ended up not going with an air setup (first page)

rman
03-14-2007, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by OCKlasse
haha for sure...just remember why I ended up not going with an air setup (first page)

from what i've heard and my own deductions, bags are super simple for this car.

Only thing you need is bag mounts/cups, which are pretty easy to fab up. After that its bolting in the bags, running plumbing from bags/valves/tanks/compressor, and wiring up the compressor/pressure switch.

lastly is where to put the compressor and tank. Jay from carnutz has a custom 3 gallon that fits IN his spare tire. that's a bit small for my taste, i say go with at least a 5 gallon in the trunk and compressor under the car.

OCKlasse
03-14-2007, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by rman
from what i've heard and my own deductions, bags are super simple for this car.

Only thing you need is bag mounts/cups, which are pretty easy to fab up. After that its bolting in the bags, running plumbing from bags/valves/tanks/compressor, and wiring up the compressor/pressure switch.

lastly is where to put the compressor and tank. Jay from carnutz has a custom 3 gallon that fits IN his spare tire. that's a bit small for my taste, i say go with at least a 5 gallon in the trunk and compressor under the car.

Sure, bag mounts are easy to fab up, but when you discover that it's almost impossible to run shocks all the way around (just because of how tight of a squeeze it is in there), it gets you thinking. Everything but my batteries will be going down into my spare tire well...I am running 2 Optimas, so I am going to side stack them on the left hand side of the trunk - barely any room taken.

rman
03-14-2007, 12:16 PM
how/where are you going to mount the cylinders?

you're right, there isn't much room on the 202 for shocks. one option is slam specialties - they are designed for NO shocks in the front.

even so, you can go with the smaller bag, rs5, and have some room. jaysonvaldez has shocks all around and with firestone bags i believe.

OCKlasse
03-14-2007, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by rman
how/where are you going to mount the cylinders?

you're right, there isn't much room on the 202 for shocks. one option is slam specialties - they are designed for NO shocks in the front.

even so, you can go with the smaller bag, rs5, and have some room. jaysonvaldez has shocks all around and with firestone bags i believe.

I am going to mount the cylinders just like you do with any other Hydraulic setup...of course anything can be done (with the right amount of money), but I thought the hydraulics would be different and cooler, and not to mention go a little lower than the bags.

rman
03-14-2007, 01:38 PM
as far as how low you can go, you can get the same amount of drop with either bags or hydros, just depends on how it's setup.

reason i ask how/where you are mounting the cylinders is because I have no idea how hydros are mounted to begin with. Where will you be bolting the cylinder to?

OCKlasse
03-14-2007, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by rman
as far as how low you can go, you can get the same amount of drop with either bags or hydros, just depends on how it's setup.

reason i ask how/where you are mounting the cylinders is because I have no idea how hydros are mounted to begin with. Where will you be bolting the cylinder to?

You have to cut a hole in your shock tower to mount the cylinders. This sounds scary, but when you take them out eventually, you can put washers in their place, and that's that.

If you look at my cylinders, they have Heim joints on the bottom, that is where they bolt up to where the shock used to.

rman
03-14-2007, 02:04 PM
hmmmm...i'd be leary of bolting it to a shock mount. those are not designed to carry the weight of the vehicle.

i've considered getting a bag over shock setup (ART shockwave) and nixed that idea because the shock mount is really only designed for the shock on our cars, and do not support the weight.

on a strut design car (hondas, the w203), both the top and bottom strut mount are designed to be weight-bearing. Even with hydros I think it'd be safer to have them mount where the spring mounts. also with hydros you will be putting much more stress on the mounting areas than in a normal static application, because of the constant movement/pressures.

just my take, what do i know? sick nontheless i hope you get some monster lift so people just gawk at a 4x4 benz then pankake it down, or side to side it down

trefive
03-14-2007, 03:30 PM
I'm actually installing the hydraulics in OCKlasse's car (his brother). As far as the lower shock mounts go, it's no problem, been done, many, many times before. Esentially, the weight itself is being "pushed" on a grade-A bolt that can handle tons of pressure and the engergy over bumps are absorbed in the nitrogen filled accumulators. The cylinders are installed just like the shocks are now. The height is based off how little, or more of a spacer on the cylinder is used. This car will lay as low as the wheels will allow, with about an 8" left all around.

Hydraulics are very reliable as long as you don't abuse them and take care of them....just like anything else mechanical.

I also researched the airbag option and it's certainly not difficult to do, it would just require a bit more "fab" work and the hydraulics are almost bolt-in.

rman
03-14-2007, 04:01 PM
definitely interested now! hydros are just plain sick and they've come a long way with accums and the such. plus the monster lift without extensive linkage or wild geometric suspension setups.

now i'm thinking, because the shock mount on the 202 (if i recall correctly) IS fairly well built, as compared to other spring/shock setups.

hmmmm.

OCKlasse
03-14-2007, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by rman
definitely interested now! hydros are just plain sick and they've come a long way with accums and the such. plus the monster lift without extensive linkage or wild geometric suspension setups.

now i'm thinking, because the shock mount on the 202 (if i recall correctly) IS fairly well built, as compared to other spring/shock setups.

hmmmm.

IMO they're way cooler than air, just because so few people run them. You are right as far as lift goes, I will have 8" of lift up front and 10" in the rear :)...You never have to worry about compressor issues, and the other nice thing is IF you ever have a leak, you kno exactly where it's coming from (as opposed to air, where you have no idea where to start looking).

rman
03-14-2007, 04:30 PM
i may follow suit on this one....what are the estimated costs? i know you are in it for under 2k, is that typical pricing? or do you have the player price homie hookup doggie discount

OCKlasse
03-14-2007, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by rman
i may follow suit on this one....what are the estimated costs? i know you are in it for under 2k, is that typical pricing? or do you have the player price homie hookup doggie discount

To put it in perspective, I am only getting the best of the best for my setup (including competition cylinders, Optima batteries, everything brand new, etc..) and it will all add up to around $1700 for everything, for the best of the best.

MirageHatch
03-16-2007, 02:35 AM
im excited.

OCKlasse
04-04-2007, 08:50 AM
Update:

I have ordered everything I will absolutely need now...

-(4) Accumulators
-(2) Optima D34/78
- assorted extra pieces
- battery rack being made as we speak

There is not doubt in my mind these will be installed by the end of April! I am getting excited!

rman
04-04-2007, 10:28 AM
i'm dying to see it dude, it's gonna be fuckin sick!

blackc230
04-16-2007, 04:54 AM
keep us posted, aye..

cant wait to see it

OCKlasse
04-16-2007, 09:00 AM
I have installed everything BUT the cylinders...I will take a teaser pic today :D

OCKlasse
04-16-2007, 01:58 PM
UPDATE:

Pump assemblies, dumps, accumulators, solenoids, wiring, and batteries are installed. Next weekend will begin the process of actually installing the cylinders and hitting that first momentous switch :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/IMG_0544.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/IMG_0546.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/IMG_0545.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/IMG_0547.jpg

OCKlasse
04-16-2007, 02:07 PM
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Green Lantern
04-16-2007, 02:29 PM
i see your making good use of your spare tire holder :D

OCKlasse
04-16-2007, 02:31 PM
yes sir!

The LO C
04-16-2007, 05:29 PM
I hope whoever is installing those for you knows what they're doing? :D

taimyshukah
04-16-2007, 05:56 PM
You gotta put this up on youtube when you get it working! Cant wait.

Green Lantern
04-16-2007, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by taimyshukah
You gotta put this up on youtube when you get it working! Cant wait.
ditto to that

OCKlasse
04-16-2007, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by The LO C
I hope whoever is installing those for you knows what they're doing? :D

it's actually his first time...but he's cheap ;)

OCKlasse
04-16-2007, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Green Lantern
ditto to that

count on it.

MirageHatch
04-19-2007, 03:07 AM
nice nice

DRM
04-19-2007, 03:12 AM
looks good mang

out of curiousity where did you get the yellow tops from? and any idea on what model replaces the stock 202 battery? thanks!

OCKlasse
04-19-2007, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by DRM
looks good mang

out of curiousity where did you get the yellow tops from? and any idea on what model replaces the stock 202 battery? thanks!

I don't think there is a yellow-top that replaces a 202 battery...but I think you could perhaps buy a new battery rack like I did?

crazy00c230k
04-19-2007, 09:29 PM
wow, looking great man, that install is CLEAN, cant wait to see it in action

DRM
04-19-2007, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by OCKlasse
I don't think there is a yellow-top that replaces a 202 battery...but I think you could perhaps buy a new battery rack like I did?

Ahh okay, so where did you grab your batteries from?

OCKlasse
04-19-2007, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by DRM
Ahh okay, so where did you grab your batteries from?

ebaymotors.com

livin503
04-29-2007, 04:45 PM
im in the process of putting airbags on my c280

it will be done by dropzone07 (biggest 3day show in the NW)

Much respect for the mercedes, but this bitch is going to drag all the way down I-5, it is pointless to have a bagged/juiced anything if it wont throw sparks or rip up some reflectors ;)

MiniTrucker+C280=trouble :bunny:

rman
04-29-2007, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by livin503
im in the process of putting airbags on my c280

it will be done by dropzone07 (biggest 3day show in the NW)

Much respect for the mercedes, but this bitch is going to drag all the way down I-5, it is pointless to have a bagged/juiced anything if it wont throw sparks or rip up some reflectors ;)

MiniTrucker+C280=trouble :bunny:

cool, i feel the same way. i know these cars can drag chassis, either with smaller wheels or tubbing.

if i keep this car, it'll def. get tubbed on some 20s and lay chassis. with juice tho, you have the option of running coils and hopping. but then you don't get to drag.

i may end up doing a bagged/dragged w126 big-body benz with lots of chrome.

trefive
04-30-2007, 06:49 AM
With tubs it will certainly drag, but up front it will be a bitch since the control arm would need to be notched for clearance and there are a lot of obstacles. Like the body pinch support comes together right in the way of where it needs to be cut. In my experience, Benz's tuck just as much as a typical tubbed car already...

illusionaryline
11-24-2007, 07:45 AM
is there an update on this yet?

OCKlasse
11-24-2007, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by illusionaryline
is there an update on this yet?

Updated pics? Check the member's gallery.