Secret Modification almost ready :) , WOW

[omeyhomey]

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[JDoggery]

how about a hint...

[Abuimad]

talk about teasing someone....come on hint...;)

[Pagz]

Nice billet pullys??:D

[RemoLexi]

Nice turbo kit and racing intake manifold ? ;)

[Lensolo]

new tint?;)

[c280nz]

wow :eek:
I love it how much you are stepping things up for us 202 boys omeyhomey
That is one trick looking pully :D

[Lensolo]

Hey, I LIKE IT!!! Good Job, man!

[chewiguy]

I'm in for one!

[1SIKBNZ]

any guesses on price range or gains for the 280?

[Nitrogenbalance]

If it's as good as it looks you can put me down for one. Consider me group buy member #1. Very nice work bud!! Good for you!!

.....since you've had a little experience with machining it seems, what would you think a machine shop would charge to have a keyway machined into a smooth bore pully without one.

When could I expect for these to be available???

[Abuimad]

Originally posted by omeyhomey
Only downside is traction becomes an issue on high HP cars b/c of the huge torque gains at very low rpms, but for C280s shouldn't be a problem.

if only i had that problem, looks cool man..nething for the c230's...:D

[Benzon]

Originally posted by omeyhomey
M104 and C230K are next in the production pipeline so it should be interesting to see what happens.

That's what I like to hear.

[hvmercy]

What do you mean when you described
the product as 100% "harmonically dampenend"?

[BrazBenz]

Will it be usable in the inline 6?
What is the implication on the normal city ride?(stop and go, etc)
Any reduction on the ride smoothness?
Thanks and congratulations,

[omeyhomey]

Will it be usable in the inline 6? What is the implication on the normal city ride?(stop and go, etc), Any reduction on the ride smoothness?

As I stated the M104 (inline 6) version is coming out soon. it will perform flawlessly just as your stock pulley does and infact you should pickup 1-2mpg in gas mileage as well. No reduction in smoothness, infact most people report silky smooth acceleration with light weight crankshaft pulleys



What do you mean when you described the product as 100% "harmonically dampenend"?

All aftermarket crankshaft pulleys remove the stock harmonic dampner. There is lots of debate whether this is a good or bad thing but basically maintaining the harmonic dampner makes sure the engine accelerates silky smooth.



When could I expect for these to be available???

The first batch should be done hopefully in 1 month tops.

Thx for your comments guys, Im trying my best to bring exciting new products for you W202 guys and I appreciate your patience in the process.

[Pagz]

DAMN,that is one awsome pully,im guessing that wouldnt be cheap to make...with crank angles stamped!,and you must have special jigs to keep it dead centre and a backing to hold it in while the rubber is poured?...then maching/balanceing again once its poured?

Exceptional work man,goodluck with the rest of the lineup...if you ever make the N/A 230 im definatly in;)

[jnolte]

Does this work for the 5.4 liter engines as well?

[omeyhomey]

I am coming out with multiple pullies for multiple models.

Yes I am making one for 5.5L NA AMGs infact... I will be testing it on my E55 and get some good solid dynos.

Honestly I could have cranked out more HP but there are few reasons why i didn't. One I wanted to keep stock diameter so we could use STOCK BELTS (finding the right aftermarket belt can be a nightmare of a headache). In addition, to keeping costs down by being able to use stock belts, I also chose strength over weight, I wanted this pulley to be so rediculously strong that it could withstand an entire lifetime of abuse. Lastly, I chose to use the harmonic dampner b/c I wanted to be the first one to do it and I wanted benz guys not to have to sacrifice comfort & longevity for more performance (even though most are doing that anyways). My philosophy is uncompromised performance, meaning making gains without any compromises to creature comforts (like AC, power steering, cooling, oil, etc), you know basically the things that make our Mercedes benz a Mercedes.

~Omey~

[RemoLexi]

ya that looks so sick!! mad props!! ... just waiting for something like that for the N/A M111. but I can understand your super busy! :)

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by RemoLexi
ya that looks so sick!! mad props!! ... just waiting for something like that for the N/A M111. but I can understand your super busy! :)

haha, ya. If you only knew how many products I have in the production pipeline. Im trying to come to the market quick & hard with a full line of products. Its been 2 years in the making but its finally becoming a reality. Anyways These pulleys should be availible in 30-45 days tops once I give the go ahead (after test fitment & dyno and etc). So around spring break time is what we are looking at.

[LiVn_It_UP]

pulley looks GREAT!!!... can't wait to start seeing parts for the M104

[LiVn_It_UP]

Originally posted by omeyhomey
M104 and C230k are next in the production pipeline so it should be interesting to see what happens.


i hope the m104 guys are before the 230k this time around... seeing as they already have header's available

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by LiVn_It_UP
i hope the m104 guys are before the 230k this time around... seeing as they already have header's available

actually you are in luck... they are haha. Sorry 230k boys but you got your headers first :D

[LiVn_It_UP]

Originally posted by omeyhomey
actually you are in luck... they are haha. Sorry 230k boys but you got your headers first :D

Can't wait.. out of curiosity what's going to be out first the header/headers for the m104 or the pulley??

i'm down for both just let me know when there done.. also interested on whatever else you build for the m104

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by LiVn_It_UP
Can't wait.. out of curiosity what's going to be out first the header/headers for the m104 or the pulley??

i'm down for both just let me know when there done.. also interested on whatever else you build for the m104

Pulley b/c it applies to all model year M104s (unlike 230k pulleys which changed from 98-00 & 00-02). M104 is actually going to make the most gains on any of my pulley designs belive it or not (even maybe more than E55K motors). The M104 stock pulley design is garbage so the gains could be upwards of 15-20 whee l HP if its light enough (i know almost unbelievable).

[Ashkan's C280]

sign me up for #1 spot on the 104

[LiVn_It_UP]

Originally posted by omeyhomey
Pulley b/c it applies to all model year M104s (unlike 230k pulleys which changed from 98-00 & 00-02). M104 is actually going to make the most gains on any of my pulley designs belive it or not (even maybe more than E55K motors). The M104 stock pulley design is garbage so the gains could be upwards of 15-20 whee l HP if its light enough (i know almost unbelievable).

can't wait...

when do you expect the m104 pulley and m104 header to be done??

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by LiVn_It_UP
can't wait...

when do you expect the m104 pulley and m104 header to be done??

M104 pulley in 1-2 months tops, headers probably won't be done till summer time for production. Im trying to work my fastest but its not easy beating the big dog tuners at their own game, takes time & $$$$. Have no fear Omeyhomey is hear :D

[snead888]

i posted something about this at mercedesforum.com and if anyone else has already...oops:p

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by snead888
i posted something about this at mercedesforum.com and if anyone else has already...oops:p

Hello sneed,

thanks for the help but no need to spread it just yet. Let me get things finalized before the word gets spread. Try and spread word about the 230K headers but for pulleys don't say anything yet

[Brando457]

Consider me group buy member #2

This will work well on my 99 C280:) I've been looking for some more performance without breaking the bank!

I can't wait!

[aruba]

group buy # 3 here. its cool i can buy these first and than have time to save some cash for the headers. so about the pricing how much are we talking here?? 500 + or 1000+???im down for shure just have to now an estimate to be ready

[joshm38]

im interested as well lets us know ur prices

[LiVn_It_UP]

Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
sign me up for #2 spot on the 104

[chewiguy]

Put me down for GB #4!!

Do you think it would be possible to do a DIY? I don't see very man here on this forum.

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by chewiguy
Put me down for GB #4!!

Do you think it would be possible to do a DIY? I don't see very man here on this forum.

well technically all it takes is removing 1 bolt, thats it. You will need a breaker bar, a crankpulley holder (or an impact air gun to remove the bolt), and a precise torque wrench. its that simple. You even use your stock belts. I made this mod as simple and easy as humanly possible so any avg mechanic should be able to do it with the right tools. Hope that helps. From a technical standpoint I give it about a 3/10. From a physical labor standpoint probably a 5/10. Its not really that hard at all. You just have to make sure you torque it down properly.

[omeyhomey]

update:

C280 & C43 will look very similar to that pulley just different dimensions. same with M104. similar design

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e50-e55-amg/1304303-official-release-ams-w210-e55-amg-crankshaft-pulley.html

thx

[RacerXofFL]

Originally posted by chewiguy
Put me down for GB #4!!

Do you think it would be possible to do a DIY? I don't see very man here on this forum.



Problem is the Tq spec, its like 300ft lbs, its not a run of the mill tq wrench, you will need to rent one most likely...

[RacerXofFL]

Originally posted by omeyhomey
update:

C280 & C43 will look very similar to that pulley just different dimensions. same with M104. similar design

thx

I assume my M104 E320 motor will be fine too? Its in a c280 :cool:

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by RacerXofFL
Problem is the Tq spec, its like 300ft lbs, its not a run of the mill tq wrench, you will need to rent one most likely...

its not 300ft lbs. Torque Spec on the MB crank pulley is 150ft lbs. Only BMW really goes up that high on their crank bolt torque specs. you cannot exceed 150 ft lbs on the pulley. Steel bends, aluminum does not, it would break under those stress loads (and it will also violate your warranty if you do not install properly).

[Pagz]

My Manual says 300Nm,maybe that was what he ment?...

[Proven Guilty]

i'm all over a set of pulleys for a C230K. i would REALLY like another mild overboost pulley, similar to the ASP remachined stocker.

[RacerXofFL]

Originally posted by 23K
My Manual says 300Nm,maybe that was what he ment?...

ah yup, I rember we had to go get a real impact to get our out in the c280 motor swap, we broke a 1/2 breaker bar etc etc, heated it up w/a torch it was nutts, and that was motor out, given it can be easy, it can also be a a real bitch

[RacerXofFL]

Originally posted by omeyhomey
its not 300ft lbs. Torque Spec on the MB crank pulley is 150ft lbs. Only BMW really goes up that high on their crank bolt torque specs. you cannot exceed 150 ft lbs on the pulley. Steel bends, aluminum does not, it would break under those stress loads (and it will also violate your warranty if you do not install properly).

I made a few Tq spec mistakes in the motor swap, includin over tq'ing the pressure plate bolts, and snapped one off inside the flywheel.

cheers

[c280nz]

Originally posted by RacerXofFL
I made a few Tq spec mistakes in the motor swap, includin over tq'ing the pressure plate bolts, and snapped one off inside the flywheel.

cheers
:(
what a pain in the ass that would be.
at least u could take it out and fix it on the bench, id hate to imagine doing that on a flyhwheel - crank bolt

Omeyhomey you have the view that since i have a lightweight single-mass flywheel that i shouldnt use one of these aswell as it would become too light etc? is this correct or do you think i could get away with using one of these on my m104 aswell?
-I have alot of respect for you work now and your oppinion as you seem to know your stuff

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by c280nz
:(
what a pain in the ass that would be.
at least u could take it out and fix it on the bench, id hate to imagine doing that on a flyhwheel - crank bolt

Omeyhomey you have the view that since i have a lightweight single-mass flywheel that i shouldnt use one of these aswell as it would become too light etc? is this correct or do you think i could get away with using one of these on my m104 aswell?
-I have alot of respect for you work now and your oppinion as you seem to know your stuff

Hey logan,

Originally I said no because I was not intending to do a harmonic dampenened pulley but honestly now I don't see why it wouldn't be safe. I cannot garentee it but I know M3 guys who have run lightweight crank AND flywheels and those pulleys were NOT harmonic dampened. Honestly I think its totally safe. As you can tell by the sound clip i made of the comparison between HD and nonHD pulleys, almost zero harmonics exist with my pulley. Infact, on your car it would be a pretty rediculous combination, I can't imagine how quick your motor will rev :) . Harmonics are are what tend to make things go bad over time but I think it should be ok. If you have a sprung hub clutch and this pulley I don't see why not.

I hope that helps.

[REMUS]

the torque for the M111 crankshaft pulley bolt it 221lbs.

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by REMUS
the torque for the M111 crankshaft pulley bolt it 221lbs.


The torque for the C280 and C43 is 150ft lb. But also it is important to remember that the torque required is directly related to the mass of the pulley itself. The heavier the pulley the more torque required to ensure it stays on the crankshaft at high rpms. The M111 pulley is heavier (and also has a supercharger belt groove) therefore more torque. 150ft lbs should be the maximum you'd ever need on a aluminum pulley that is over 60% lighter than stock.

Thx for the tips though, its good to know.

[blind26]

Racerx has real issues with nm/tq ;)

[RacerXofFL]

Originally posted by blind26
Racerx has real issues with nm/tq ;)

yeah yeah, did you have to fix any of my mistakes? I took care of them.

Blind needs management! MegaSquirt FTW!

[Pagz]

ahh yeh thought so...i think its written there in lbs and Nm,but i didnt look;)

[Tump43]

Hey Omeyhomey --

You said that you'd have an aluminum crank pulley (harmonic dampener) for the 55 engine soon. Definately put me down for one for my 2005 C55. (It actually should be the same as the C43 crank pulley). I'll get it as soon as it is available. Email me at mmclaw@optonline.net.

[REMUS]

keep us M111 engine guys updated on this pulley. I really really want this. IM going to be doing a dyno run in class sometime within the next couple of weeks. As of right now, the project of installing my supersprint header has began. so please keep us updated.

[Pagz]

Originally posted by REMUS
keep us M111 engine guys updated on this pulley. I really really want this. IM going to be doing a dyno run in class sometime within the next couple of weeks. As of right now, the project of installing my supersprint header has began. so please keep us updated.

Please tell me your doin a before and after on the SS header!!!!=)

[chewiguy]

Spring break is up.. bring out the goodies! hahaha!

[RemoLexi]

Omey,

M111 N/A Pully & RemoLexi's Paypal account is ready for transfer!! :D :D :D :D

[RemoLexi]

:( the sorrow continues for us M111 boys.

[RemoLexi]

... ya but if you make the pully i know theres at least 2-4people on here who would buy one.

me being 1st, I know 23K may be intrested, im not going to speak for others but I know that there would be intrest in a pully for the M111 N/A.

fine then. be that way. guess ill swap my M111 engine for a M104 and THEN ill buy your pulley. :p

[RemoLexi]

:( ill keep my eyes open for a M104 engine, one thing though im confused about - so a C280 is an M104 engine ? is the C36 engine also an M104 ?

[bish0p]

also do you have an estimate as to how much the pulley would run us when it's complete? like just a ball park guess? thanks omeyhomey

[Berger Chin]

Originally posted by omeyhomey
ok fine... here is a sneak peek. you guys are the first to get a look at the next generation of lightweight pulleys. This is the world FIRST harmonic dampened aluminum crankshaft pulley (12 months in the making!!). This has to be the nicest aftermarket pulley ever manufactured, it even has the timing marks etched onto the pulley and is 100% harmonically dampenend. And the best part all you C280 and C43 guys are going to be able to buy it soon :) . This truly is history in the making (and if you think this is crazy just wait and see what ELSE i have in store :D :cool: )

http://www.abedinmotorsports.com/pulley/AMSpulley4.jpg http://www.abedinmotorsports.com/pulley/AMSpulley3.jpg



May I ask a question??
This crank pully is made by 7075 aluminum??

[Tump43]

Is the pulley ready for the C55, m113, V8 engine yet?
Let me know, I definately need one.

[joshm38]

omeyhomey ur my hero i cnt wait to have this pulley on my c280 how much would it cost to get put on?

[C280_Spawrt]

Is this pulley all done for the C280 V6? When can I order this man I'v been following this pully for a month now

[C280_Spawrt]

Done yet? Look what I found!

Scroll down to evosport Under-drive pulley system ---> then look under C43/C280 (c280 what I have)

http://www.k1motorsport.com/mb/engine.htm

Is yours gonna be better? Or even similar? What's the difference (over/underdrive) and also between yours

[joshm38]

u should dyno booth whichevers is best I will buy omey you sond very convincing i like the sound of my car pulling off the line =]

[joshm38]

let me know asap i want this before socaleuro thanks

[Brando457]

Can't wait for this to come out!

If I'm correct it will be go in my 99 C280 V6 no problem?

Thanks

[joshm38]

yes it will i have the same car as you

[mike mac]

so my understanding is it will fit the M104 motor?
i have a 97 c 280

[joshm38]

wait so the one for my 99 c280 wont be out untill summeR?

[mike mac]

Originally posted by joshm38
wait so the one for my 99 c280 wont be out untill summeR?

i believe the put the V6's in 1999 and up. i have a I6 ( inline 6) but i also have a 1997

[RacerXofFL]

Originally posted by mike mac
i believe the put the V6's in 1999 and up. i have a I6 ( inline 6) but i also have a 1997

98+ when they changed front bumber to a 3 hole, rear to have two turned ourter pices, and 5 speed elec trans...

[C280_Spawrt]

Almost done??? I'm leaving for Italy THIS Sunday and wanted to place an order

[RacerXofFL]

Originally posted by omeyhomey
Good news guys. M104 prototype should be finished by end of this month. I'm very excited to see the results :) .

Im excited for you, keep us posed, I should havew a new (my old 4puck) clutch by then, so I should give accurate dyno's when its avaiable.

Don

[Markland556]

then its time for presents for the C36 boys right!?!?!? LOL
I am so ready to bump this engine up. I know it can do it!
First i need to get an OBD scanner for my laptop, i really want to look at some of the cars info as i drive.

[mike mac]

what scanner do you use? i would like to use one to

[RacerXofFL]

I do not own one, but have used a friends http://www.scangauge.com/ to fix issues with my TPS, it is a very nice unit.

[C280_Spawrt]

Don't think i'm not patient or anything but.....................

"Are we there yet!?!?"

[mike mac]

headers for which motor or car?

[Markland556]

im ready for this! I really want to look into a turbo for the C36. I really think if we had M104 turbo headers made it would help. Even though i guess you would have to have a turbo in mind for spacing issues... Hmm. maby better custom done...
But i really want this pulley kit!

[Corban Dallas]

I just might have to get a pulley kit too:) These things look really nice and I would love to have another 10+hp. Let us c36 guys know when they are done!!!

[mercdriver]

I'd like to give one of these a go in my C36 as well. Does any body know of a good replacement for the less than adequate belt tensioner?

[Corban Dallas]

So how long until we can buy some for the 36? :)

[benzboy]

Got a photo of prototype, i'm intrigued :)

[C280_Spawrt]

and how about the updated C280 guys?

[Nitrogenbalance]

Have any pictures of the C43 pulley, also whats the weight of the unit?

I'm interested due to the simplicity but I'm a little blind towards this product..

[ncd]

Originally posted by omeyhomey
Ya most MB guys are still uninformed about crank pulleys but the BMW boys have been using them for years with great success.

The weight difference is roughly 4lbs or 60% lighter than stock.

The picture is in the new thread. thx

Is it Kompressor crew friendly?
How much to get it to the uK?