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C280/////AMG
03-17-2007, 11:27 AM
These are some pics of my Cold Air Induction I promised you guys!!!!

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8403/dsc00027hs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9236/dsc00028si9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4846/dsc00035ob0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Excuse the chipped bumper...it's the accelerator pedal's fault :smoke:

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/7633/dsc00031tu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8827/dsc00029io0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9540/dsc00032kc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:D

So what you think?

OCKlasse
03-17-2007, 11:52 AM
looks good! now go clean your engine bay!

C280/////AMG
03-17-2007, 11:55 AM
I know...it's filthy, but i don't know what to clean it with..a high pressure hose caused a misfire last time i used it...

chewiguy
03-17-2007, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by OCKlasse
looks good! now go clean your engine bay!

The CAI looks good! How does it sound?

I too think that it looks dirtier than porter potty at a flea market.

C280/////AMG
03-17-2007, 12:00 PM
Sounds great...the only thing I can compare it to is the exhaust note of a Golf VR6!

Guys, TELL ME HOW TO CLEAN IT!!! I've run out of ideas

C280/////AMG
03-17-2007, 12:17 PM
Thanks omey! I'll try it out

BBB DRAGZ
03-18-2007, 12:17 AM
wouldnt want to drive that in the rain...

OCKlasse
03-18-2007, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by BBB DRAGZ
wouldnt want to drive that in the rain...

doesn't matter...just don't drive into bumper-height puddles, which I wouldn't do in my car in the first place.

C280/////AMG
03-18-2007, 01:36 PM
Driven in the rain a couple of times and never had a problem...just got to keep an eye out for deep puddles, but wouldn't go thru a puddle even if i had my standard intake anyways!

Gonna get my car back soon (still at the body shop...they take forever!!) and when it's back i'll take a video so u can hear how it sounds!

benzboy
03-18-2007, 08:22 PM
Where did you get the nice tube with ///AMG stamped on it?

BBB DRAGZ
03-18-2007, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by OCKlasse
doesn't matter...just don't drive into bumper-height puddles, which I wouldn't do in my car in the first place.

yer but wouldnt the spray from the car in front of you get it wet? dunno but i wouldnt risk it.

OCKlasse
03-19-2007, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by BBB DRAGZ
yer but wouldnt the spray from the car in front of you get it wet? dunno but i wouldnt risk it.

Never had a problem with my cold air in the rain...I think the only time you have to worry is when the filter itself is completely submerged in water, then the car is suffocating.

VIP_MBZ
03-20-2007, 10:30 AM
To lay the misconceptions to rest, here's the deal with submersion:

- most CAI systems are made with K&N filters, which are made of cotton. You service these with a cleaner and a hose -- they do not get destroyed in water. At all.

- like most things involving flow, the intake system will always ingest that which gives the least resistance, which will always be air over water UNLESS the filter is completely submerged as mentioned earlier in this thread

- the big fear stems from this: the subsequent lack of air from full submersion can cause the engine to stall, which is not all that bad, but if any reasonable amount of water actually makes it into the combustion chamber, you will probably damage your rods because it will oppose the compression stroke (since water cannot be compressed very much without a lot of force), similar to the engine ingesting a solid object.

- this fear is obsolete because of products like this:

http://www.carreview.com/Channels/CarReview/images/products/product_54370.jpg

the filter has less resistance than the vented coupler, so probably 95% of the air will come through the CAI opening, but if it should become submerged, the coupler will then become the path of least resistance, and your intake air will use that path until the filter becomes unrestricted.

-Ray

OCKlasse
03-20-2007, 11:45 AM
well said...and if any of you are crazy enough to take your 202 into water high enough to be submerge your front bumper, you're crazy!

C280/////AMG
03-21-2007, 06:53 AM
As i said, i've never had a problem in the rain, and i've driven in some pretty heavy rain storms...if you think about it, the inlet area and inlet manifold is already so hot that the amount of extra humidity theat gets in there will be vapourised immediately. besides, if it does come into contact with water, water is denser than air, therefore air will be sucked thru over water, and the water that comes thru the cone filter will be dispersed into droplets, as it has to pass thru the gauze. Apparently some level of humidity is even good for your engine (such as water-injection used in seriously modded engines to keep engine temp down).

As OC says, if you go thru bumper-high water in you're car, you either need to buy yourself a G-Class, or book yourself into the nearest institution

About the AMG tube, i actually used a 3'' PVC tube, cut out the lettering from another 3'' PVC tube by hand, glued the lettering onto the pipe with PVC Weld, and then sprayed it with plastic primer, then matt black...

Markland556
03-21-2007, 09:56 AM
It lokks pretty cool. HAHA sell them on ebay and join the rest of the poeple that sell fake AMG stuff. LOL

C280/////AMG
03-21-2007, 12:31 PM
HAHA Good idea!! Anyone want a fong kong :chinese: air intake? :D

Still think it looks cool tho... So many people ask me where i got it from... I usually say i got it off ebay and it's off a limited edition E36 AMG, one of about 20 made and they believe me!!!! HAHA

blackc230
03-28-2007, 06:00 AM
nice looking CAI u got there..

I was thinking..is it possible to re-route the intake pipe so that it doesn't go over the top of the engine?

VIP_MBZ
03-28-2007, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by blackc230
nice looking CAI u got there..

I was thinking..is it possible to re-route the intake pipe so that it doesn't go over the top of the engine?

Not unless you want to go get a front-facing intake manifold from an SR20DET and custom weld the bottom part (hmm..)

Still not worth it unless you plan on going all out like Paul, ha.

-Ray

C280/////AMG
03-29-2007, 12:02 AM
I don't see how you would manage to do that, because the other side of the engine bay is filled with the ABS hydraulics, air conditioning tank and the windscreen washer bottle. It would definately be superior, but where would you route it?

Powerslave
04-14-2007, 03:41 PM
I'm planning of installing a BMC Carbon Dynamic Airbox...

What do you all think about this filter?

blackc230
04-30-2007, 01:55 AM
That's true..I had another look at my engine bay and confirm that there's no way to re-route the pipe. One member replace the plastic pipe with stainless pipe. This is what I'm planning to do

Powerslave:
BMC intake is awsome. I had that in my MINI. Doesnt sound too loud. The air temp is colder too.

C280/////AMG
04-30-2007, 02:46 AM
Powerslave,
Yes, i think that's a good idea. Apparently it's not as loud as a normal exposed cone filter. Those boxes are very expensive tho, and not worth the money in my opinion

c55m8o
04-30-2007, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by C280/////AMG
I don't see how you would manage to do that, because the other side of the engine bay is filled with the ABS hydraulics, air conditioning tank and the windscreen washer bottle. It would definately be superior, but where would you route it? Great CAI. I didn't realize you had that when replying in Benz Newbie's thread.

It may be possible with relocating someparts (windscreen washer is on the passenger side on my W202 anyway, and AC tank can be moved) Speedybenz has a V8, and runs intake from the bumper on both sides. He has a thread on it from long long ago; alas the pics no longer work. But! ... on the V8 the intake tubing only has to reach the front of the engine where it goes into the stock airbox. On the V6 it needs to travel to the back, so that ABS may nix it after all.

p.s. you never know if/when you'll be caught in a big puddle. My wife didn't know the roads when we moved here and got caught in a section of road turned into a pond the 1st weekend we had our SLK320 and filled the engine with water (luckly not completely so didn't lock it) and had to be pushed out; what a tough time getting it going again. Anyway, there's an alternative CAI on here that uses a 2nd intake within the engine bay that only is opened if/when the main intake is submerged under water. It's a nice setup. I'm sure you've come across the thread tho. Just saying -- my wife isw one who wouldn't drive through deep water -- but accidents happen if you don't know it's there; it can happen. ;)

kevinzorz
05-06-2007, 03:40 PM
whats the exact length of that pipe labeled AMG?, and is the filter just connected to that pipe? or do you have something else in between? what kind of air filter is best?
:bunny:
sorry about all the questions:(

C280/////AMG
05-09-2007, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by kevinzorz
whats the exact length of that pipe labeled AMG?, and is the filter just connected to that pipe? or do you have something else in between? what kind of air filter is best?
:bunny:
sorry about all the questions:(

The length of the AMG pipe is about 43cm.

I then used 3in air ducting like this (excuse the phone camera)
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.c57b7042c0.jpg (http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?c57b7042c0.jpg)
between the amg pipe and the cone air filter. I initially wanted to use silicone piping, but no-one had the angles i needed since it's very tight and twisty in there

The best filter to use is the BMC cone filter, but i use a cheaper cotton/steel mesh cone filter cos i don't intend on cleaning it. I just throw it away every 5000 miles.

Ashkan's C280
05-09-2007, 12:37 PM
did you gain any mpg with this mod? If so how much?

C280/////AMG
05-09-2007, 10:54 PM
I can't really say, cos i never monitored fuel consumption before the CAI. What i can say is the consumption on my 280 depends HUGELY on how i drive it. The lowest i've been able to achieve was 8 litres/100km in combined highway and town driving with the CAI (factory specs are 11.5 litres per 100) so i'm very happy with the consumption