Sony Subwoofers?

[anf6789]

EDITED!!NOW NEED TO KNOW ABOUT JL AUDIO 6WO's IN REAR DECK!!!

Hey whats up guys? so i've been looking for an entry level subwoofer system for my 94c280 with bose and a alpine cda-xx56? well they have this sub system below for $249 ant circuit city, two sony 12inch subs(was looking for only one sub but hey) sony box, and the sony amp below. the box with the subs is 149by itself and the amp is 99. do any of you guys have or have heard this system? from what i posted does it look like a good deal/good quality? is sony xplod a good company/good sq? how about the amp? does it have enough power for the subs? the salesman at circuit city was telling me i may have problems with the alpine install, he said depending on haw it was installed the high or low signals may not be right for the sub? that my volume may be on 15 but i might not be getting all the bass i should be? i have know idea what he was talking about. im fairly good with all this kinda stuff, just wanted your input/opinions.

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Anf6789
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[benzo23]

hey whats going on...i dont see why u want to a system at the city anyways?...i have an alpine 9857 head unit...2 12" JL audio W3v2's and a JL audio 500/1 amp...3 layers of dynamat...and i bump really good...sony explodes are crap...if i recall the only kinda good thing at the city is maybe kicker....but anyways...and dont skimp on the wireing kit...G

[AirPost]

Originally posted by benzo23
...sony explodes are crap...

:werd:

[anf6789]

haha, i mean im not trying to build a crazy competition system, and i wan't a decent system for the money, you know? just something to add some more low end and when i want i can turn it up and hear it form down the block,lol, oh i will get some good wiring, no jensen or anything like that,lol

[benzonline]

1 - 12" sub in a box will do. I used to have a clarion 12" sub and it did the job...more than enough bass.

Dont touch Sony anything!

[1sickC]

Im not a certified sound guy, however I do have a Sony Xplod 12'' in my 280 and it does the job. I got the sub for a good price, and yes I have heard that they are crap. BUT I have had mine bumpin for the past 3 years with no problems except my Rockford Fosgate amp blew up, but that was under warrante. That amp is not going to give you enough power though, and I heard sony amps reallyyyy suck. So for the price Id get it, but get a way bigger amp since that is the most important for good sound. And make sure you get a good box. Just yesterday a dumb cop told me to turn my sub off, its ILLEGAL! And that was at volume 2! (with one 12)

[jnolte]

sony= lol

[anf6789]

sony= lol

OK OK!! i get the picture, SONY SUCKS i guess,lol this is why checked first before i got it. i really only want one 12 any way, but this deal came with two. ill probably end up getting an alpine type e or s or one of the other good brands.
thanks for the help,
anf6789

[RemoLexi]

I had Xplod's, they are just cheap.

even though I have a Sony head unit - im satisfied with that, I just ordered a Memphis 10". Memphis audio is up there along with JL and RockFos. I have personally never tried Alpine, but I hear its not bad. Sony and Pioneer are more NooB audio - mostly found in civics and popular among the ricer community. thats why they are sold at Wal-Mart along with the famous "lightning audio".

[benzo23]

..well as much as i am into my system...the 202 has a terrible set up for systems...first of all the seats dont even fold down...secondly in the trunk there is that huge metal piece on the back of the seats...which really tones down any bass that you will get...i have a 98 c230 and i already described my system...and also what i did was take out the 2 back stock speakers in the back below the windshield...it acts as a almost ghetto rigged port to the truck..which allows more bass into the cabin...more air movement = more bass...and i also have 3 layers of dynamat in the truck which elimated any of that annoying rattle...and some things ive noticed in my car is that it sounds better with the head rest down....all i can really conclude this with is that "try" to stay away from Sony Explodes...im sure in that one guys case for 3 years...im sure sony make 1 good one for every 1000...llol...and he got that one...ha...but u cant go wrong with JL audio, Eclipse, or Memphis...im not to familiar with the alpines or rockfords....just my .02...and no jenson wiring please...it has to much of a gap in between the wireing.. jl makes a great wiring kit and so does rockford from what i understand...and if you want sound quality get a sealed box...if u want more bass then get a ported box...take care...cheers..G

[trinied]

no to sony just incase you didnt get the point already

[Logic]

i work in the mobile electronics install area and to make a long story short is you get what you pay for...if you cant afford it save until you can...you dont need cheap non preforming equipment in your car. bacause in the long you'll be paying more to replace it.
short and sweet:cool:

[benzo23]

yes, i am definitly a firm believer in "you get what you pay for"...like i said earlier i have JL audio...i got what i paid for...i have over 2k in my audio...and it shows...and hears....lol...if it were me...and i just wanted one sub in a 202 i would get a jl audio 12"w6 or a 10" w7....more than you will ever need...and a jl500/1 amp wil push them both great...cheers...G

[anf6789]

ill probalbey get a higher end 10 or 12 and an amp, the alpines look nice and my alpine head unit is the bomb so ill probably go that route, thanks for all your opinions!

what about what i said about the hi/low converter problem? any info on that?

[anf6789]

OK OK just got another crazy idea. anyone ever heard the jl audi 6W0's they are small 6inch subs for 149 for 2 on ebay, don;t know what they retail for, would these work in the rear deck? would they make a difference if just ran of stock bose amp? would i need to amp them seperatly? would they fit? also these are free air subs right, no box needed? Any opinoins would be helpful!!! Just trying to get more bass but not a crazy system!!

Thanks ANF6789

[Denlasoul]

Originally posted by benzo23
..well as much as i am into my system...the 202 has a terrible set up for systems...first of all the seats dont even fold down...
Depends on the car's options. Many have folding seats. :)


Originally posted by anf6789
what about what i said about the hi/low converter problem? any info on that?
The hi-lo is an interesting subject. If I recall correctly, Bose does not require it (Search Nakamich How-to). For my install, I did it without the converter, sounded like crap, then installed one. Fixed any issues. Honestly, if you plan on using the Bose amp, might as well use the converter.


Originally posted by anf6789
OK OK just got another crazy idea. anyone ever heard the jl audi 6W0's they are small 6inch subs for 149 for 2 on ebay, don;t know what they retail for, would these work in the rear deck? would they make a difference if just ran of stock bose amp? would i need to amp them seperatly? would they fit? also these are free air subs right, no box needed? Any opinoins would be helpful!!! Just trying to get more bass but not a crazy system!!

Thanks ANF6789
You could buy a rear deck mount that will allow you to put a 6.5 inch woofer in the deck. I have a set that I bought from another Member. I could find the link for you if you really need it.

[anf6789]

thanks alot denlasoul, also what i would like to know, is that the jl 6W0 have 75 watts rms each. is the bose alone enough to power these, what is the power rating for the bose subs and the amp channel for them? if anyone could answer these questions then denlasoul it would be cool if you could find that link whenever you get the time for it. Thanks alot.

[Denlasoul]

Bose info on the site (http://www.club202.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11779&highlight=Bose)

Speaker adapter link (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/mercedes-class-1993aug-2000-c-292_306_487.html)

[benzonline]

The Bose can only power itself and nothing else.

Simply "tap" a signal from the rear deck bose subs to your amp/sub of your're choice with hi/low converter and voila.

[anf6789]

wow how did i mis that thread, thanks denlasoul! why do they call the rear subs transducers? oh thanks benzonline--guess that scraps that plan, unless i amp them and put them where the phone speaker and the foam baffle are. hmmm,lol

[benzonline]

"Transducer" is just another word for speaker pretty much.

Dont know if its possible in a 202 due to the rear deck but in the 210, some people added 2 more Bose subs (extra holes) to make 4 altogether for extra bass and it still worked from the existing amp. They said the sound was much more powerful in the end.

[anf6789]

yeah theres a 202 bose sub on ebay for 19bucks i might buy it.

[benzo23]

woah woah woah....i dont see why you would want 2 6" subs...i hear this from my friends all the time whenever they get systems..."i want more bass"...2 sixes are definitly not going to be enough esp. since the 202 rear deck is that cheap fiber board material that rattles alot...i dont see why you dont get something that will satisfy your bass needs...my concept is.."bump when you need to and have classy bass when you want to be civilized"...i love the jl idea dont get me wrong...but get a system that is all around...and not 2 6"s in the rear deck...just my .02 agian...but do what you feel is necessary...cheers...G

[anf6789]

haha thanks for the input, it was just an idea. if i was going the 6inc route i waoud mount them to the steel sheet under neath and keep the bose there in place. dude i have no freakin idea what i want,so many options, infinity basslink too,lol i was just putting ideas out there maybe someone would pick up on them and say "hey thats a cool idea maybe ill do that".

[benzonline]

Honestly I have the Infinity Basslink with my Bose and its reeeeeealy good. Its small, and the bass is clean and deep.

I suggest you get that plus its affordable and not cheap shit like Sony.

[Logic]

i think you should scrap the bose system.... just buy a decent 4 channel amp , as far as the bass links there ok but you will get better low end and performance out of a custom enclosure...i have a 12inch premier sub in my car that sound crazy good...i have pictures in the members area under MY 1999 C230 K SPORT the enclosure is half mdf and have fiberglass in the kick panel...no loss of space in the trunk:cool:

[anf6789]

i like the bose, ive heard things ive never heard in songs before!!

[ron]

Sorry to disappoint you, but bose really sucks.

Go into any REAL home theater shop, not cheapo stuff like samsung, sony, regular pioneer.

If youre in the right place you will see brands like Runco, B&W, Fujitsu, Pioneer Elite, Faroudja, Sim2, Marantz, and Martin Logans etc...

Ask one of the employees there about how bose compares to real sound equipment if you dont believe me...

Oh yea, and I too have the bose in my car, its horrible.

[benzonline]

Sound is a personal thing. But Bose is not bad otherwise they wouldnt put it in Maybach/SLR or the Sistine Chapel.

They create sound that is "pleasing and natural to the ear" not super high treble and ground pounding bass which is the result of why people think it sucks.

[anf6789]

oh i have heard many high end sound systems. my friend has a mcintosh home system which is awesome. compared to many other oem auto stereos the bose is a major step up.

[ron]

Oh come on, even the JBL in my mother's prius blows the w202 bose away.

Sorry, after reading what I have read, and hearing what I have heard, and talking to the professionals that I have talked to, to me, BOSE stands for Buy Other Sound Equiptment.

[Logic]

there are many sayings for bose ....Better Off with Something Else, or all highs no lows must be bose...although if your on a budget you can blow threw the existing bose with a after market and be fine with it,,,its better then sony :cool:

[svt ricco]

the amp in the thread cannot power the subs coz it only has 280 watts peak power...and thats not even rms. you should at least match your speaker and amp wattages

edit:
go to crutchfield.com and get those buy 1 take 1 kickers, i think its $149..you'll be heard three blocks away!!! just make sure to give them enough power. this is the best deal you can get