Supra turbo in w202? [Archive]

mike mac

07-03-2007, 04:51 AM

the other day my freind said that the toyota supra also has an inline 6 and they produce or can produce alot of power. and i was wondering if maybe a turbo kite or stock turbo ( if there is one ) will fit....maybe with a few mods or maybe just the idea taken from it for the setup or what not. if anyone knows that would be awesome

Nitrogenbalance

07-03-2007, 09:30 AM

From what I understand a turbo is a turbo is a turbo, granted some being better than others. I believe the turbine housings are different but I think they are universal as well. It's what goes along with the turbo, ECU, piping, intercooler, wastegate, etc....this is the tricky stuff.

BTW, there is a very nice 500E(I think) with a supra motor and turbo setup on youtube somewhere. Pretty badasss.

mike mac

07-03-2007, 12:33 PM

oo yea haha, it was sick ...but all in japanese. i say a few of them ( 500e) in the past week tho

omeyhomey

07-03-2007, 01:13 PM

you mean just the turbo or the actual engine?

Green Lantern

07-03-2007, 01:22 PM

think he meant turbo but imagine a 2JZ engine in a c280......real head turner right there.

omeyhomey

07-03-2007, 02:13 PM

ya turbo is turbo, ECU only recognizes air not the brand of the turbo it comes from. As long as ECU tuning is properly done, should be just fine.

jnolte

07-03-2007, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Green Lantern
think he meant turbo but imagine a 2JZ engine in a c280......real head turner right there.

there is a w202 with a 2jz in it, its in asia somewhere i forgot the details

omeyhomey

07-03-2007, 06:54 PM

i think there is a 2Jz in at least one of every kind of car in the world, its the motor swap choice favorite lol.

Nelson Lago

07-03-2007, 07:42 PM

what would be sick is if we can produce as much power out of a 280, w202 as thay can with a 2jz then finaly people will respect a benz

mike mac

07-04-2007, 07:22 AM

well my what i meant in my original question was. what if i get parts ( header/ manifolds, ect) from a supra and make it fit and work on a M104 motor.
im sure supra parts are a little easier to find and are simpler to manage and maintain or w/e.

maybe, a little cheaper too

Markland556

07-04-2007, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Nelson Lago
what would be sick is if we can produce as much power out of a 280, w202 as thay can with a 2jz then finaly people will respect a benz

If people arent respecting your benz already, you might be doing something wrong.. LOL:cool:

Nelson Lago

07-04-2007, 08:34 PM

its a c class y would somone respect it (performance wise)

Green Lantern

07-05-2007, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by mike mac
well my what i meant in my original question was. what if i get parts ( header/ manifolds, ect) from a supra and make it fit and work on a M104 motor.
im sure supra parts are a little easier to find and are simpler to manage and maintain or w/e.

maybe, a little cheaper too
you might as well just put the 2jz engine in there, fabbing the headers, manifolds and whatnot are going to cost you a fortune and dont think supra parts are cheap, they are pretty expensive....

D-money

07-17-2007, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Nelson Lago
its a c class y would somone respect it (performance wise)

my car is respected (performance wise) i do 0-60 in high 6's. i know thats not all that but i beat many domestics, imports and other uero's.
i have a c280, raced a c36 of the line to 70, lost by 1/3 of a car

Nelson Lago

07-18-2007, 06:19 AM

i have the same just mine is a 99 also with a k&n filiter but no one will ever respect it. thay all say its a mercedes their mad for luxry its not fast. granted i never race them so thay cant tell but you dont see many mercedes custom tuned and thats all those people see. If you can tune it, it must be fast if not, its slow. and thats why no one or not many people respect a benz.............when i say "those people" i mean people in my school and on the street

tinter101

07-18-2007, 07:25 PM

Have these people ever heard of AMG?? Respect is included
with every one sold.

Len013091

07-18-2007, 09:56 PM

I get plenty of respect, not just since it's a mercedes, but, it can take most cars in my school's lot. If you look at it, 7.2 seconds to sixty isn't that bad considering what most cars will do. It's not a sports car by any means, but it's definately better than a honda civic(stock of course).

Nelson Lago

07-20-2007, 06:18 PM

im talking about a non amg mercedes but one of my honda buddies was at a drag stripe with some of his honda buddies and thay saw a E55 now my friend isn't a mercedes hater but his friends are and he said to his friend that the car (e55) can run 12's and his friends said " no way its a mercedes and its for doors no way" ...so not all people respect a AMG and pluse most honda go 0-60 in 6.9 to 7 sec but thay will get off the line first but at about 80 a benz has them ( gotta love autobhan tuned)

hk20000

07-27-2007, 09:43 PM

here is that video you guys were talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Ahlw8RuIs

pretty sure it can be done to a W202 if you have the will and means.

Nelson Lago

07-28-2007, 06:18 AM

werd ass Japanise people iwish it was in english

Glen75

04-10-2011, 02:12 AM

I know this won't be for everyone, but here is my W202 with a 2JZ conversion underway.

All bolted in now on it's mounts :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4153/5122974166_e090df4b36.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5122974166/)

GT35R with Tial rear housing.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5218/5392022011_4a7d3bf1d9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5392022011/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5223/5587704465_51ee026690_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5587704465/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/5588296438_34b02e200b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5588296438/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5187/5588296312_3a9429bd2b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5588296312/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5587704583_cbcb6847f1_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5587704583/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5265/5587704627_d190f50527_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5587704627/)

Not too much big stuff to go now :), plenty of small jobs once she gets home.

evevevevev

04-10-2011, 06:33 AM

Glen75

04-10-2011, 11:21 PM

hey Glen your downpipe looks huge are they 3.5"?
I am having issue with my downpipe clearance Im trying to fit a 3.5" one but cant find any space.
do you have a vertical shot of your downpipe?
what diff will you be using?

with 2jz and gt35r you should be able to hit 350rwkw without dramas with the right supporting mods and tune.
what ecu are you using?

Hi there, yes 3.5" Dump with 3" after the cat convertor.

Diff is factory for now, i have no idea how strong/weak they are. If i have problems, i will probably fit a R200 diff to it.

No vertical shots of the dump yet, but i will in a week or 2 when i remove to ceramic coat.

Yes 400+ RWHP is the plan.

ECU-factory to get it running, then will switch to a Motec to run the fuel/ignition.

evevevevev

04-11-2011, 01:03 AM

keep posting would be interesting to see.
keen to know how did you clear the 3.5" dump as I have a 1jz in my 202 with 2.5" dump and 3.5" right after dump all the way to the back.
been wanting to upgrade the dump as well but it barely fit 2.5" already. (blocked by chassis)

I have been running stock diff for 2years+ it has shown no sign of giving up yet. (with frequent hard driving and launch with 2200rpm stall)
problem is with A341E box and stock diff (which i believe has mid 3's :1 diff ratio) the gear ratios will be freaking long!

wrenchturner1980

04-11-2011, 10:01 AM

Badass! I love engine swaps from different manufacturers. Keep the pics coming.

Pagz

04-12-2011, 12:31 PM

Is that a 4" system to the rear? was that needed? lol

2JZ looks really good in there!!...now get sneaky and make a custom mercedes valve cover^^

Glen75

04-12-2011, 01:08 PM

Is that a 4" system to the rear? was that needed? lol

2JZ looks really good in there!!...now get sneaky and make a custom mercedes valve cover^^

3.5" up to the Cat convertor, and 3" for the rest of the system.

Pagz

04-12-2011, 02:46 PM

Ah ok sorry should have red the thread properly! ;) have you had it running? looks loud^^

Glen75

04-12-2011, 02:51 PM

Not running yet, probably about 4+weeks away. Shouldn't be too bad, i'll add an extra muffler in the middle if it is too loud.

evevevevev

04-18-2011, 10:39 AM

can you take a vertical shot of your dump showing the clearance?
I really need to know how do you make it with a 3.5" coz i need one.
thanks!

Glen75

05-27-2011, 10:10 PM

Love it when you start and job, and everything falls into place.

Front brembo's mounted 100%, pad wear sensors in/connected, brake lines done! Will bleed them tomorrow.

New Bilsteins fitted also :)

330*32mm front disks with Factory Merc Brembo's

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3402/5767253792_d59c6fee27_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5767253792/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2708/5767253606_9e6f13aa64_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5767253606/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2317/5767253360_053e5602f1_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5767253360/)

Plenty of clearance with the factory 18" mono blocks!!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5106/5766710673_b7ee0cbe96_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5766710673/)

Pagz

05-28-2011, 01:06 PM

Looks good! Nice choice on parts;)

horgantrevor

05-28-2011, 01:38 PM

looks great any update and keep pictures coming nice to see the details ]

Glen75

06-07-2011, 03:41 AM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3412/5807948190_d083720e0b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5807948190/)

zmatt

06-07-2011, 04:33 AM

ooooh nice.

horgantrevor

06-07-2011, 06:46 AM

looking good cant wait to see it finished also could you post a video on you tube on it running

horgantrevor

06-07-2011, 06:55 AM

what gearbox will you run

Pagz

06-08-2011, 01:02 PM

Super tidy!...I like it =)

Glen75

06-08-2011, 01:36 PM

what gearbox will you run

Hey, it has a Toyota A340 4 spd auto-hooked up to the factory Merc shifter. Being a daily driver, i decided to stick with an auto rather than manual.

Pagz

06-08-2011, 01:52 PM

Glen75

06-08-2011, 02:01 PM

Are you able to resinstall the firewall?...venting it somewhere would shed alot of built up heat if you can.

btw that black spray(rough finish like honda covers) you used on the cam cover and plenum looks great,hope to use that on my next project as well!

Yeah firewall is fedinately going back in. Gets taken to get the TX valve replaced next week and all the AC lines finished, then i can put the firewall and heatshielding back in. Still alot of small jobs to go to finish and neaten it up.

horgantrevor

06-08-2011, 02:08 PM

what are the calipers off(what merc) and did they fit on no brackets looks nice

Glen75

06-13-2011, 11:00 PM

Bilsteins are in, and front is lowered, still need to drop the rear. Hope the front will settle approx 10mm lower with time.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3581/5831371163_12caccc728_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5831371163/)

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horgantrevor

06-14-2011, 02:11 AM

what are the calipers off(what merc) and did they fit on no brackets looks nice

any update on what they are off

shes looking nice a nice c36 , or c43 body kit would set if off nice

SD202

06-14-2011, 03:28 PM

wow beautiful job you did on fabbing up the intake to the OEM box for the turbo looks sick man. i wish we had side markers in the fenders here in the US

Glen75

06-20-2011, 12:05 AM

wow beautiful job you did on fabbing up the intake to the OEM box for the turbo looks sick man. i wish we had side markers in the fenders here in the US

Thank you.

While i know some people will have a problem with this-Meh....

I'm not one for AMG badges on a normal Merc or M badges on a normal BMW, but the toyota logo looked wrong when the hood was up. So this.

Car will keep normal C200 badges on the outside, or maybe be de-baddged.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/5851820272_3ccfa68b29_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5851820272/)

Firewall and heatshielding need to go in, and looking at this pic, i need a new washer res...

horgantrevor

06-20-2011, 01:06 AM

Thank you.

While i know some people will have a problem with this-Meh....

I'm not one for AMG badges on a normal Merc or M badges on a normal BMW, but the toyota logo looked wrong when the hood was up. So this.

Car will keep normal C200 badges on the outside, or maybe be de-baddged.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/5851820272_3ccfa68b29_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5851820272/)

Firewall and heatshielding need to go in, and looking at this pic, i need a new washer res...

looking really nice de-badge it would look nicer as a sleeper

what is she like to drive now

zmatt

06-20-2011, 11:57 AM

Thank you.

While i know some people will have a problem with this-Meh....

I'm not one for AMG badges on a normal Merc or M badges on a normal BMW, but the toyota logo looked wrong when the hood was up. So this.

Car will keep normal C200 badges on the outside, or maybe be de-baddged.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/5851820272_3ccfa68b29_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28550396@N04/5851820272/)

Firewall and heatshielding need to go in, and looking at this pic, i need a new washer res...

That looks great. Unless the person knew 2Jzs I think most would think its an M104. That looks really professional even almost stock, did you do it yourself?

Pagz

06-20-2011, 12:51 PM

Pro job dude!...The merc badge is gold! not so sure about the amg bit but you made it clean so looks that part regardless^^

So much more room for turbo when they dont lean it to create room for the long intake manifold!.

Glen75

07-16-2011, 12:36 AM

Air con is now gassed and working, most of my electrical stuff has been sorted, like oil pressure light, reverse lights, temp gauge etc.

Sorted out the wiring to the fuel pump, which took a bit of stuffing around due to the ECU having no fuel pump out trigger for the relay. Initially i connected it via a relaty to the oil pressure switch, but when the car had been sitting overnight and all the fuel pressure had bleed off, and it took a few secs of cranking to get oil pressure-it was taking too long to start. So now the relay is also connected to the starter motor-which gives the fuel pump a quick prime when you crank it, and by the time it starts-it has oil pressure=Much better solution and starts like normal.

I had a problem with the power steering pump cavitating, due to the reserviour being a bit blocked, and the pipe from the Res to the pump not being ideal. Had the res cut open, and new stainless return line welded on, and it all seems good so far.

Car has settled down nicely on the new lowered springs, i may still have to drop the rear a further 10mm or so....

I hope to have it RWC, Rego and dyno'd in the next few weeks if all go's to plan.

Glen75

07-18-2011, 11:15 PM

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More progress-Firewall back in which helps complete the bay.

Still lots of bits to 'black out' like behind the grill, the water pipes in the engine bay, mesh on front bar to hide the cooler etc etc.

I seem to knock off 3 jobs but add 4 in the same session :(

All guages now working, except for the tacho-I need to find out what wire colour for the tacho wire from the old ECU-if anyone can find that info for me, i'd really appreciate it.