I might just be crazy...I need the REAL gurus to help me out with their opinion

[OCKlasse]

alright, well I found a new pair of wheels I love:

19 * 9.5
19 * 10

What I am thinking of doing is stretching a 225 on the 9.5 and doing a 245 on the 10. The reason I might be able to get away with the front is because of my hydraulics, and the fact that I have my front fenders pulled which might allow for me to clear it. What do you guys think? Am I nuts??

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/Cinco%20de%20Mayo/DSC00117.jpg

[RemoLexi]

I have seen it done, trust me you dont want to do it - what happens during shap turns is that your sidewall gets the beating and breaks down and we all know the sidewalls are not thick at all so you can figure the rest - tire becomes unbalanced - vibrations may occur and it has a risk of blowing, too risky for me especially when my car is in the freeway 60% of the time commuting to work and all.

just my knowledge. :)

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by RemoLexi
I have seen it done, trust me you dont want to do it - what happens during shap turns is that your sidewall gets the beating and breaks down and we all know the sidewalls are not thick at all so you can figure the rest - tire becomes unbalanced - vibrations may occur and it has a risk of blowing, too risky for me especially when my car is in the freeway 60% of the time commuting to work and all.

just my knowledge. :)

also keep in mind that my car will not be "lowered" when I drive, but in fact at stock height

[c280nz]

those are big front rims! but i know if anyone can pull it off you can OCK :-)
just as long as those rims dont stick to far out past the front fenders, but ive never heard or read anywere of anyone running that wider rim on the front :confused:

-and im sorry im not a guru like you ask, just an idiot putting in his 2c ;)

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by c280nz
those are big front rims! but i know if anyone can pull it off you can OCK :-)
just as long as those rims dont stick to far out past the front fenders, but ive never heard or read anywere of anyone running that wider rim on the front :confused:

-and im sorry im not a guru like you ask, just an idiot putting in his 2c ;)

I hope I can pull it off...

[RemoLexi]

doesnt seem to me that you race your car much or anything of that nature. so maybe you can pull it off. :) wish u luck!

[OCKlasse]

I just measured, and there is well over 1" of gap between the outside edge of the wheel and the lip of the fender...therefore it should work if I can perfect the offsets with spacers.

[ryhi]

do it. btw, wrong forum to ask about stretch haha.

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by ryhi
do it. btw, wrong forum to ask about stretch haha.

haha definitely. ;)

[jaysonvaldez]

I think that would be tight. If that's your daily driver and you don't mind changing you driving style than, I'm all for it.. WOO HOO STRECTCHED TIRES ON THE BENZ


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b155/jaysonvaldez202/18x122.jpg

[OCKlasse]

haha...I went to the rep I'm going to be getting the wheels from and we took a good look at my car and all the circumstances, and we think it shouldn't be a problem!

[97C28O]

Damn thats crazy!

And I thought my 225's on my 8.5's were stretched out but on a 9.5? Damnz!

Good luck! Got any teaser pics =D?

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by 97C28O
Damn thats crazy!

And I thought my 225's on my 8.5's were stretched out but on a 9.5? Damnz!

Good luck! Got any teaser pics =D?

Not yet...when I have them I will :o

[OCKlasse]

Alright...I have the wheels in my possession, so I can divulge what they are.

BRAND NEW Brabus Mono V Multipiece :D

http://www.ultracar.com/Brabus%20Wheels/WHEEL%20MONO%20V%202PC.jpg

19 * 9.5 ET45
19 * 10 ET35

It will be tricky to get them to work, but I will certainly try!

[DRM]

hey man looks good! im assuming you got these from cec? I tried emailing them but no response..

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by DRM
hey man looks good! im assuming you got these from cec? I tried emailing them but no response..

Yeah, I went over to BRABUS USA (about 10 min from my house).

[JDoggery]

very nice, one of my fav wheels

[Proven Guilty]

i don't want to be the one to kill your wood man.. lol

i've seriously looked HARD into 9.5"front and 10"rears. the 10" rears are doable, but the front you MUST make custom wheel arches because of rubbing. the offset might work simply because you don't have shocks anymore for them to rub on, but only a test fit will tell. I think et45 in the front will not clear the control arms unfortunately.

[DRM]

damn nice, depending on how I go with getting an answer from cec do you think you could get me some stuff? haha

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by Proven Guilty
i don't want to be the one to kill your wood man.. lol

i've seriously looked HARD into 9.5"front and 10"rears. the 10" rears are doable, but the front you MUST make custom wheel arches because of rubbing. the offset might work simply because you don't have shocks anymore for them to rub on, but only a test fit will tell. I think et45 in the front will not clear the control arms unfortunately.

I know the ET45 will not clear the control arms, but I need to determine whether I need a 5mm spacer or a 10mm spacer to clear JUST enough. As for the tire sizes, I might need to get ridiculous, like a 215/35 on a 9.5" wheel, but I think if I did that, it would clear. If not, then off they go, but I WILL make them work somehow. Also keep in mind that my front fenders are rolled and pulled extensively.

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by DRM
damn nice, depending on how I go with getting an answer from cec do you think you could get me some stuff? haha

I'm now broke off my ass man. I have no money for anything.

[Proven Guilty]

imo with that wide of a rim, offsets only account for so much. i know your fenders are borderline exotic without chipping the paint, however you'll most likely need a 10mm spacer; the fenders alone probably can't make up for all that room.

if you wanna do it, i would have some custom fender flares molded on similar to how jstrat did, cut the sheet metal out, and go 245 rubber up front on the 9.5s, and 255 rubber in the rear. it's VERY doable that way.

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by Proven Guilty
imo with that wide of a rim, offsets only account for so much. i know your fenders are borderline exotic without chipping the paint, however you'll most likely need a 10mm spacer; the fenders alone probably can't make up for all that room.

if you wanna do it, i would have some custom fender flares molded on similar to how jstrat did, cut the sheet metal out, and go 245 rubber up front on the 9.5s, and 255 rubber in the rear. it's VERY doable that way.

I measured the amount of distance between the edge of the wheel the inside lip of the fender, and there was approx. 1.5-2" of spacing. If I run an extra inch wider rim (which would be .5" more on the outside of the rim and .5" more on the inside), Now obviously, without a spacer the inside of the wheel is hitting the control arm. With a 10mm spacer, the wheel would no longer be hitting definitely. So now we are to .5" + 10mm (12.6mm+10mm=22.6mm) of the wheel extending out further than it was, which is still less than an inch out (25.2mm = 1 inch I think)...so according to this, I should be ok and it's a very iffy should, but I'm riding on it. If I were to run a 215/35/19, I would definitely be ok. Although it is quite a dramatic stretch, they should still fit snug under there. If not, they're for sale :)

Keep in mind also because I am so low, I have a significant amount of camber (I would guess in the area of 5 degrees) which really helps in putting on such a wide rim. When the car is at stock height, they will certainly stick out a little, but then again that's not what I care about; I care about what it looks like laid out.

If I can't fit it, you win ;) Now that I think of it, an ideal spacer size would be 12mm, so I might have to get them custom made, but we'll see if I could do it with 10s.

[DRM]

Originally posted by OCKlasse
I'm now broke off my ass man. I have no money for anything.

i'll pay you lol!!

[Proven Guilty]

we had to run 5mm H&R spacers on sosh's W208 with ET32 on the Lexicons. On paper, it looks as if it's an ET27 with an 8.5" rim, and it's not an aggressive drop. I've got my fingers crossed, cause oh man the sex of brabus V's laid out w/ the wald kid.. haha yum.

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by DRM
i'll pay you lol!!

What would you want? PM me.

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by Proven Guilty
we had to run 5mm H&R spacers on sosh's W208 with ET32 on the Lexicons. On paper, it looks as if it's an ET27 with an 8.5" rim, and it's not an aggressive drop. I've got my fingers crossed, cause oh man the sex of brabus V's laid out w/ the wald kid.. haha yum.

Oh yeah...tell me about it! Not to mention super flush 19s :D I might even put the WALD on before the wheels, that way if I need to do any modifications to the front bumper (a little trimming) it can all be done right there. I am going to TWS for this one, because I know they'll do the right thing, they always do.

[ryhi]

im sure it can be done depending on how pulled your fenders are. i am pretty sure i can run a 9.5" even with an et30 rim up front of my car easy with a 225 as i have pulled my fenders almost to the max. again im telling you, wrong forum for this topic! everyones going to say it wont work. haha

[OCKlasse]

According to a wheel offset calculator, I would need an 18mm spacer to be exactly where I am now in the rear, and at that point, I would now be sticking out 26mm more than I was. This should still work though, because I had all that extra room to play with between the wheel lip and the fender. I might just try some 20mm spacers and see how it works.

[ryhi]

im running a overall offset of +10 in the rear with no problem. you can do it man. trust me.

[jnolte]

so now you have 3 sets of wheels, haahha

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by jnolte
so now you have 3 sets of wheels, haahha

yeah...I know...crazy!

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by OCKlasse
yeah...I know...crazy!

Test fit the wheels...they will work! I need to have a 23mm spacer custom made, and then they're golden. I could get away with a 20, but then I would not able to do a full lock turn completely. I am just safer off with the 23. Surprisingly enough, they don't stick out that much. Pics to follow tomorrow.

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by OCKlasse
Test fit the wheels...they will work! I need to have a 23mm spacer custom made, and then they're golden. I could get away with a 20, but then I would not able to do a full lock turn completely. I am just safer off with the 23. Surprisingly enough, they don't stick out that much. Pics to follow tomorrow.

What I really need help with is what size bolts should I buy for the fronts??

[rman]

Originally posted by jnolte
so now you have 3 sets of wheels, haahha

what other wheels do you have?

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by rman
what other wheels do you have?

My Club Lineas and those 20" Auto Coutures.

[OCKlasse]

Here are some pics of them being test fitted - this was with a 3mm and a 20mm spacer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/DSC06794.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/DSC06796.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/DSC06797.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/DSC06795.jpg

[anf6789]

wow that looks great, doesn't stick out far at all!! i dunno if it is just me but if you had like 275's out back that would look sick, but i am also a fan of the streched look too. Good luck man!

[OCKlasse]

Anyone have any idea on the length of the bolts I would need?

[SLAMMED_C]

Originally posted by OCKlasse
Anyone have any idea on the length of the bolts I would need?

WOW.. thats gonna be some crazy shit dude!! cant wait to see them on.

why not have the spacers so they bolt to the hub, and then the wheels bolt to the spacers.. you could use stock bolts for the wheels to the spacer.. and then whatever is suitable for the spacer to the hub. just a thought.

[Logic]

all you have to do is hit some water and splassssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh and there goes the whole side of your clean car LOL

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by Logic
all you have to do is hit some water and splassssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh and there goes the whole side of your clean car LOL

lol when you wash it as much as I do, it doesn't matter :o :p

[VIP_MBZ]

On a side note, where did you get your fenders pulled and how much did it run you? I'm thinking of doing one final set of modifications (fender pull, camber correction, all new bushings) and running the car for another year before finally selling.

-Ray

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by VIP_MBZ
On a side note, where did you get your fenders pulled and how much did it run you? I'm thinking of doing one final set of modifications (fender pull, camber correction, all new bushings) and running the car for another year before finally selling.

-Ray

TWS (The Wheel Supply) in Walnut, California. It was $40 per fender.

[Logic]

pull fenders? what do they to your fenders? are you talking lip or?????

[OCKlasse]

well...test fit them today with tires, and they did not fit :bored:...but at least I should have the kit on within the next month :o

[VIP_MBZ]

Originally posted by OCKlasse
well...test fit them today with tires, and they did not fit :bored:...but at least I should have the kit on within the next month :o

Run more negative camber! =)

-Ray

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by VIP_MBZ
Run more negative camber! =)

-Ray

I have around 6 degrees as it is when it's all the way down. It just wasn't meant to be :o

[515]

can post some pics please...

[DRM]

bad luck man those wheels would have looked insane

[crazy00c230k]

damn sorry to hear that brandon, its all good tho ur ride looks sick as it is, maybe sell those rims nd get some c32 brakes?...haha

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by crazy00c230k
damn sorry to hear that brandon, its all good tho ur ride looks sick as it is, maybe sell those rims nd get some c32 brakes?...haha

haha don't worry man...the first thing that's happening when I sell them is the WALD kit to finally get painted and installed. Next will be C32 extravaganza :D

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by 515
can post some pics please...

pics of the wheels, or pics of my car?

[515]

both.. the wheel with the car, i'm sooo curious how it looks .w202 bippu style on stretch tyres..:D

even if wheel can't go into the fender, u can always put the ride height higher, i meant tyre tuck in around 1 finger, and wallaa it's also a bippu looks. :D

[OCKlasse]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/Cinco%20de%20Mayo/DSC00111.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/Cinco%20de%20Mayo/DSC00226.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/Cinco%20de%20Mayo/DSC00223.jpg

If you want bippu, the WALD kit will be on soon :D...I have the test fit pic on my phone. As far as raising the height goes, my car tucks rim, and I have to live with it :p

[515]

DAMNNN NICEEE.... :D

slammed to the ground. :D

do u hv any pic with the brabus rims on? linea is nice but not enough wide.

:rolleyes: with this set up, ur wheel should have lots of camber, then u said u only get 6 degrees, hmm it shouldn't be like that.
maybe the brabus is too wide.

the wald kit that u have, can u fit the chrome line like the OEM bumper?

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by 515
DAMNNN NICEEE.... :D

slammed to the ground. :D

do u hv any pic with the brabus rims on? linea is nice but not enough wide.

:rolleyes: with this set up, ur wheel should have lots of camber, then u said u only get 6 degrees, hmm it shouldn't be like that.
maybe the brabus is too wide.

the wald kit that u have, can u fit the chrome line like the OEM bumper?

well the Brabus wheel would have been a 19 * 9.5 et 25 (with 25mm spacer) against a 19 * 8.5 et 40 on the Linea...I have the pic in my phone...I'll upload it later today. It was poking out A LOT. The fender was stretching when I tried to lower it, so I was NOT going to risk it.

[OCKlasse]

camber much?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/IMG_0561.jpg

[c280nz]

at least the outside of your tire wouldnt wear out! it isnt even touching the ground :D

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by c280nz
at least the outside of your tire wouldnt wear out! it isnt even touching the ground :D

yeah, just the inner tire would wear completely after 500 miles :D

[tpliquid]

i got a set of those wheels for sale. C class fitment

19x8.5 and 19x9.5 225 and 245's

[515]

Any update on the car??
some pics would be nice :)

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by 515
Any update on the car??
some pics would be nice :)

Car will be out of the body shop Monday or Tuesday...expect pics in the gallery :D

[ryhi]

why dont u poke out ur lineas with spacers and stretched tires?

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by ryhi
why dont u poke out ur lineas with spacers and stretched tires?

because since the lineas aren't hubcentric, I am worried about shimmys.

[ryhi]

you can get spacers that are hubcentric to the car, AND that will make the rims hubcentric to the spacer.

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by ryhi
you can get spacers that are hubcentric to the car, AND that will make the rims hubcentric to the spacer.

You mean custom made spacers? The car is made for either 5 * 114.3 or 5 * 112, and it has a large bore (probably 72mm for some of the Japanese cars).

[ryhi]

what i mean is you can get a spacer that will fit right onto the hub of your car, and have the correct bore size for your wheel.

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by ryhi
what i mean is you can get a spacer that will fit right onto the hub of your car, and have the correct bore size for your wheel.

yeah, I think I'll start playing around with it once I start getting bored again, lol.