My new intake!

[benzboy]

I now have a large K&N pod filter mounted just behind my bumper in an area that can only pick up cold air, and lots of it!

It made a noticable difference in performance and its loud! Sounds like it would eat small children! And at just under 6000 RPM it gets an almost Vtecish VVT noise ;D

Pic:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h31/EVLC36/Image014.jpg

[Devero]

thats awesome, where did you get it, or is it custom?

[benzboy]

Custom, built it with a mate, to build you need 1m of stainless 3" piping, a 45 degree stainless elbow, a competent welder, a large K&N pod filter, and a silicone coupling and clamps. Oh and a pipe cutter.

To fit the filter in you need to pull off the front bumper (very easy, just 4 bolts and 2 clips)

[D-money]

i have the same setup, after long driving or in traffic, that pipe will heat up and wont do any better then the stock box did. heat wrap helps alot

[benzboy]

I can understand pipe heating up being close to headers, but i wouldnt have thought the air would have had time to heat up as it moves at a pretty fast rate?

[Nelson Lago]

2 questions 1st: i still belive and know from testing that 90% of the time stock is the most efficent way of power 2nd: where did you get the pipe

[benzboy]

Umm, how is no 1 a question... looks like a statement to me

I can definitly say it made a difference enough to feel.... a couple of other people have used these on the M104 engines and posted improvements, some work some dont.

My previous carbon fibre intake did nothing, and that was worth about $600 NZD new, this new one cost $200 and sounds better and performs better.

2nd, as per previous post:

Custom, built it with a mate, to build you need 1m of stainless 3" piping, a 45 degree stainless elbow, a competent welder, a large K&N pod filter, and a silicone coupling and clamps. Oh and a pipe cutter.

To fit the filter in you need to pull off the front bumper (very easy, just 4 bolts and 2 clips)

[c280nz]

nelson stock isnt that good cos its dogged by compromises.
That looks pritty smooth benz boy! u should put your header heat sheilds back on tho

[RemoLexi]

Cool! a right-hand drive C36! :D

[Nelson Lago]

trust me stock airbox are one of the best

[Denlasoul]

What precautions are you taking for keeping water out? I think the first puddle you hit well louse up your engine.

[Section 8]

What precautions are you taking for keeping water out? I think the first puddle you hit well louse up your engine.

err air filter?

[Denlasoul]

Originally posted by Section 8
err air filter?
Ha ha. Water can still get through: Another Member's problem with a CAI (http://www.club202.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13170)

[Logic]

you might want to put a AEM bypass filter in case of waterhttp://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z125/Deslogic/my202intake002.jpg

[omeyhomey]

zero point in doing AEM bypass if you want cold air. Just keep the way it is and don't go into deep puddles. If you may the fliter just below the opening it will still be high enough to not suck up any water.

[omeyhomey]

if you want you can run a 3.5" intake. technically the stock air sensor is alightly larger than 3.0". The BMW guys run 3.5" intakes on their 3.0" air sensors and they show slightly more gains b/c it allows air to enter the engine quicker. THe only issue is fitment, if 3.5 can fit down to foglight area then that will be best setup. Also replace the stock ribbed connecter coupler just after air sensor with a smooth 4-ply silicone tube of the same size to help smoothen airflow after the air sensor as well. It will still allow for enough flexibility but not have a turbulent ribbed design. That would be the perfect setup. ALso sand down that pipe and paint it with a high temp black paint just to keep a bit more heat out and also to make it look OEM and match.

[benzboy]

Originally posted by Denlasoul
What precautions are you taking for keeping water out? I think the first puddle you hit well louse up your engine.

Quite simple, this car never gets driven in the rain, its my weekend car, and the puddle would have to be near a foot deep!!

Never in my time of driving have I actually encountered a puddle that deep, or if I had, I would just drive around it.

Hey Logan, my car never came with these heat shields you speak of?

And as omey said, no aem bypass thanks, sucks in hot air.

RE the 3.5" omey, it wouldnt fit thru the hole. eventually I will be making the whole intake stainless/silicone and nice and smooth :)

[Logic]

why is it zero point? wont that help in case of some water entering? also if you look close my aem is right in front of the stock opening where the factory hose went into the grill , so its not sucking up hot air while the car is moving (fresh air)... from what i understand and been told this aem may save the engine. . . this is how the aem works ....It operates like a pressure relief valve, and is only open if the cold air filter is not the point of least resistance (such as when it is blocked off by water). In all other instances, it's actually closed, so no hot air comes in.

[benzboy]

I dont think coating the intake would halp that much, heat wrapping the headers would provide far cooler temps :)

[Pagz]

Nice intake Tom,straight to the gaurd with minimal bends is usually the best way to go if your replacing the OE item!

having built a few myself now (2xstainless,4xalloy,1xplastic)
SS is the loudest given its more tensile and gives alot more resonance!...wrapping it will make it somwhat quiter( alot quieter suprisingly)

4" SS to the gaurd,was pretty cool as the length of the intake + the diameter had an odd effect made the honda sound....er well...not like ur average honda...much deaper,kinda sounded like it had some displacment lol

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_34_full.jpg

offtopic* And will the old man EVER clean the garage....i dont think so.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_362_full.jpg


Must be time for a NICE set of headers Tom? =)

[BALLLR]

my buddy had built an intake for his 95 C36, and WOT, it sounded badass. the last lil bit of RPM sounded so cool and the car seemed to eat it up.

He himself advised me to leave it stock.

[benzboy]

Cheers Paul, yup I like stainless, the noise is awesome :D

Yup, headers are next on the list along with crank pully :)

Hows the 23T going, havent read any posts from you in awhile?

[omeyhomey]

larger diameter increases deepness or resonance much like on the exhaust side as well. It allows the lower frequencies to come out more. if 3.5" does not fit then I guess 3.0" will have to do.

good job :) !

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by benzboy


And as omey said, no aem bypass thanks, sucks in hot air.

RE the 3.5" omey, it wouldnt fit thru the hole. eventually I will be making the whole intake stainless/silicone and nice and smooth :)


Ya the seller "Siliconeintakes" on ebay has the lowest prices and they are also the only ones that have the silicone tubes in BLACK (an absolute must for me b/c it makes it look much more OEM and alot less ricey). Hope that helps.

[Markland556]

Originally posted by benzboy
Sounds like it would eat small children!

That right there is what just convinced me to do this to my C36!

[Pagz]

Originally posted by benzboy
Cheers Paul, yup I like stainless, the noise is awesome :D

Yup, headers are next on the list along with crank pully :)

Hows the 23T going, havent read any posts from you in awhile?

Cool sounds good should net a few more hp's for sure!

Yeh its still going....#4's got oil so enigne has to come appart
but its low priority now as im concentrating on changes to my house and building a garage etc.....kinda over blowing so much money probly give it a rest till next year...
on a good note you may(or may not)see some coverage on it in a local rag later this year...=).

laters,
Paul

[Markland556]

here are some pics of the intake i did.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/xboxonly/97b1a37a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/xboxonly/14736577.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/xboxonly/3a007241.jpg

[RemoLexi]

Markland, your coolent looks like a bottle of ketchup.

[Markland556]

when i bought the car there was tons of rust in there. you cant really clean it out because there are cavities in that tank so the pressure washer could get them. but i do need to do a coolant flush.

[omeyhomey]

Originally posted by Markland556
here are some pics of the intake i did.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/xboxonly/97b1a37a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/xboxonly/14736577.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/xboxonly/3a007241.jpg


Hey mark,

I really like your setup too. I also recommend getting one more similar silicone coupler for after the mass air sensor as well to replace that ribbed one that causes turbulence. It would help smoothen out airflow. Also I think if you sanded down the piping and painted black it would look VERY OEM and most probably wouldn't even know any better.

just a though :D

[Markland556]

im thinking of running the intake down the other side of the car soon. I dont like it having to go over the engine. But thats a good idea.

[benzboy]

I have thought about doing that too, but theres not really any room....

Would give awesome throttle response though having it shorter and it would stay cooler too, no headers or cam cover to absorb heat from

[Markland556]

Originally posted by benzboy
I have thought about doing that too, but theres not really any room....

Would give awesome throttle response though having it shorter and it would stay cooler too, no headers or cam cover to absorb heat from

when there is no room you gotta make room... LOL :D
I think it can be done. There is some AC stuff in the way but i dont think it should be too bad.

[benzboy]

Did you find your intake made a decent difference? What about the noise

[Markland556]

honestly, i dont know if i gained much in performance. Once i put my AMG wheels back on the car was much better. But i think it did help with throttle response. But it defiantly sounds more mean. Like its been said before, sounds like its going to eat a small child. Around 2k it has a annoying whistling noise but when the windows are up you cant hear it. But at around 4k it sounds awesome and again at 6k its pretty nice. Maby ill get a recording from my camera sometime today.

[Nelson Lago]

sweet:D

[Logic]

here is that update on that aem bypass .... It operates like a pressure relief valve, and is only open if the cold air filter is not the point of least resistance (such as when it is blocked off by water). In all other instances, it's actually closed, so no hot air comes in.

[2phast]

I did a similar setup in my C36, although after hitting a deep puddle at Pacific Raceways, I thought for sure my engine was done. I got lucky and would never do something like this again without the AEM bypass valve

http://www.2phast.com/C36/intake4.jpg

[Logic]

i noticed your intake cone filter is layed on its side as like mine is facing down....any reason why you did it that way?

[Cru328prod]

Hey paul when your gonna sell you car........I WANNA BE 1st ON LINE TO BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'll even have that bitch shipped.
its really hard to see deep puddles REALLY HARD!!! i know......it rains rediculous here in florida. just yesturday on the drive home i was in 4 inches of water. it took 2hrs on a 1/2hr drive just to avoid deep puddles, and prevent hydrolocking, and hydroplaning

[Logic]

weren't you telling me about not having a AEM bypass valve and you would be careful? how can you with that kind of water in the street????