New I4 S/C ??

[C230KSPORT00]

Hey guys. Everyday that goes by I want a better S/C more and more. When I first join I posted a thread on HP increse. Well C55m80 gave me this info QUOTE "Or, you can stick with the roots type for lower RPM torque but not as much gains at hi-rpm torque, i.e. power, as you can attain with the above supercharger.
http://www.magnusonproducts.com/models.htm

You probably have the SC with the flow of the MP45 now. (other here know I'm sure) You can consider stepping up to the MP62 -IF- you add hi-flow intake, headers, cat and exhaust, only." END QUOTE. How much work am I looking at if I got this S/C? I mean how many components would I have to switch out to be able to handle the extra power? How much extra power am I looking at? Is the gain from these tiny Superchargers even worth the money? What other kind of work am I looking at? (cause I seriously doubt its a bolt-on. just too good to be true) And last how much would all of this cost me? Thanks again! :D

[Proven Guilty]

simply raise the boost of your m45. the m62 may call for larger displacement than the M111 can handle even bored out. i've scratched the surface on this possibility and the larger SC is probably better suited for the V6 found in the 98+ C280s

[RemoLexi]

I think it would be cheaper to do a turbo setup rather then trying to fit the 62s/c its not that small.

best bet is raising the boost with the 45

[Section 8]

whats the prices of these SC's

[C230KSPORT00]

Originally posted by Section 8
whats the prices of these SC's I dont know how much there going for. I asked the website but they havent replyed yet... So you guys think I should just try to bring more power out of the MP45 that I already have with mods like pulley, intake,chip, and mabey some headers?? Thanks

[Logic]

just trade your car in for a cobra mustang....problem fixed LOL

[C230KSPORT00]

Originally posted by Logic
just trade your car in for a cobra mustang....problem fixed LOL LOL no thankyou, I think I will keep my 202. BTW I just got the CF pillars. They r gorgeous. I will put them on when I wash my car next.

[C230KSPORT00]

Is it possible to make my S/C louder?? Cause I can barely hear it, especially now since I have loud exhaust. I dont want it to be as loud as a Ford Lighting or anything. I just want it to whine alittle you know?? So is this possible? Thanks

[Logic]

don't know why you would wanna hear it but like i told you before , when you get this custom intake done not only will you hear the supercharger whine better , you will also hear the by pass make a pshhhhhhhh sound when you let off the gas before it shifts. sounds like a turbo blow out valve.

[C230KSPORT00]

Originally posted by Logic
don't know why you would wanna hear it but like i told you before , when you get this custom intake done not only will you hear the supercharger whine better , you will also hear the by pass make a pshhhhhhhh sound when you let off the gas before it shifts. sounds like a turbo blow out valve. Sweeeaat. psssh sound. Um u dont like the sound of a supercharger??? The wheeeeeeaaaannn. Its beautiful. I love it. Is there anyway to bring the sound out even louder? Mabey by removing a peice or something?

[Logic]

i dont think you want any louder then what this makes. i feel its loud enough for me with out being a nuisence.

[c280nz]

change your intake to a cold air intake with a pod filter and you should here it whine a bit more, hit up paul (23k) he made a custom supercharger intake ask him how much it whined.

get a pulley kit to up boost pressure and a decent intercooler will help to. i wouldnt change s/c it can quickly become an overpriced nightmare

[Proven Guilty]

Originally posted by c280nz
change your intake to a cold air intake with a pod filter and you should here it whine a bit more, hit up paul (23k) he made a custom supercharger intake ask him how much it whined.

get a pulley kit to up boost pressure and a decent intercooler will help to. i wouldnt change s/c it can quickly become an overpriced nightmare

paul's intake is sitting in my garage as we speak out here in the states :)

that is, until VIP_MBZ from this board has time to drive down and pick it up.

if i were you, just go with the ASP pulley kit, upgrade your fuel preassure regulator, and keep your stock air box. i wouldnt mess with a chip tune unless you're completely maxxed out, and want that little bit more umph, because the tune will not be safe if you make performance changes that could significantly alter air to fuel ratios.

chip tune is kinda like the very last step. if you wanted to do a really high end exhaust, get 200 cell cats, and pickup the supersprint M111 header from jstrat, and the supersprint cat-back exhaust from OCKlasse. those paired up with a pulley would realistically put about 30hp to the rear wheels, and you'd be at a safe 9.5lbs of boost while still passing SMOG testing.

[Pagz]

230K + custom Intake = massive whine
...i find it a alittle intrusive and prefer the more subtle turbine induction sound myself...to see if you prefer the whine simply remove your airbox completely,remember to keep the bypass attached to the system...take if for a quick thrash on a non-dusty road....also if your concered about inhaling somthing damaging temporarilly steal somones stockings and tape one layer over the intake pipe...=)

I would leave the SC as is...do what PG mentioned SS header and exhaust...do a dyno run before and after on the exhaust as nobody ever does this and i really really want to know how well the ss system works =)....keep your stock intake...do a pully kit.

Cheers,
Paul

[Logic]

Originally posted by Proven Guilty
paul's intake is sitting in my garage as we speak out here in the states :)

that is, until VIP_MBZ from this board has time to drive down and pick it up.

if i were you, just go with the ASP pulley kit, upgrade your fuel preassure regulator, and keep your stock air box. i wouldnt mess with a chip tune unless you're completely maxxed out, and want that little bit more umph, because the tune will not be safe if you make performance changes that could significantly alter air to fuel ratios.

chip tune is kinda like the very last step. if you wanted to do a really high end exhaust, get 200 cell cats, and pickup the supersprint M111 header from jstrat, and the supersprint cat-back exhaust from OCKlasse. those paired up with a pulley would realistically put about 30hp to the rear wheels, and you'd be at a safe 9.5lbs of boost while still passing SMOG testing.
proven why did you decide against the cold intake? for a bit you almost had my friend build one for you , then you bought another and looks like you sold it . ?

[Cru328prod]

The cold air intakes like logics and mines are ridiculously loud. Take it threw a tunnel people would think your cars engine blew up lol. All you hear is wahhhhhhhggghhhhhhpssssssstttt. Its not worth putting a bigger Supercharger in, i've already talked to eaton a yr ago, and they said and i quote it would take alot of time and money with massive fabrication to get it on there. As we all told you before there isn't much to do to the 23ks. We f'ing wrote the books on hooking up the c230ks. The only thing i haven't seen yet is a twin turbo w202, and a sequential turbo supercharged setup (its possible i've seen it on the Toyota sicons) dude look threw old post, i'm pretty sure if you search BENZ_NEWBIE, all of your questions will be answered LMAO. At one point in time i was just like you on here, i wanted to hook this bitch up to blow atleast civics si's with the vtechs. those vtechs are fast btw.

get a loan for 7k and turbo your car.......story done, no need to whine.
you'll get 400hp for about 2mins till your tranny fries.

or get a loan for about 4k and just do the simple bolt ons.

from my experience doing it all at once is the best way to go.


but see do you see the money to hp ratio........its pretty f'ing steep i don't think you realize it. I wish up to this day i didn't start hooking my shit up

10k plus you car = a c43 supercharged :D 400hp + stable <---formula for mustang killer...think about it

BTW ARE SUPERCHARGERS ARE ON A CLUTCH!!!!!!!!.....THOSE SUPERCHARGERS WILL NOT WORKK

[C230KSPORT00]

Damn man. You just took a 5min piss on my fire... Lmao, I understand though, you were just being brutaly honest. Im sorry for asking about all these performance parts, I just want to make my 202 the best it can be. I will just stick with a CAI, Pulley, Ecu Chip, and then more weight reduction. Thanks guys :cool:

[Logic]

cru was are test bitch and boy if he listened to me he would have not done half the stuff he did LOL j/k cru where you been ? anyways wheather is getting better over here so c230k ill try to hook up with chris to get your stuff :D

[C230KSPORT00]

Sweet man. Whenever u get a chance, that would be great. I cant wait for the CAI!! :cool:

[Cru328prod]

hahaha i've gotten laid off so i haven't been doing much of anything sleep and schoool.....did i tell you how i hacked the alpines blackbird and its running off of windows CE edition.......the shit is better as a pocket pc then a gps lmao. hmmm i wonder is c230ksport would the test dummy for Sprint booster.......

hey guy......buy the sprint booster for our cars, i'll even drive up to fort Lauderdale to put it in for you,

It some how tricks the Tbody to opening up 50 times faster...no one has had the ball yet to buy is cause its 300 dollars...i don't know if you haven't noticed, but coming out the hole on a launch is like a half a sec delay

[C230KSPORT00]

Originally posted by Cru328prod
hahaha i've gotten laid off so i haven't been doing much of anything sleep and schoool.....did i tell you how i hacked the alpines blackbird and its running off of windows CE edition.......the shit is better as a pocket pc then a gps lmao. hmmm i wonder is c230ksport would the test dummy for Sprint booster.......

hey guy......buy the sprint booster for our cars, i'll even drive up to fort Lauderdale to put it in for you,

It some how tricks the Tbody to opening up 50 times faster...no one has had the ball yet to buy is cause its 300 dollars...i don't know if you haven't noticed, but coming out the hole on a launch is like a half a sec delay Wait what is this? Sprintbooster? Why hasnt anyone bought it yet if it makes the car lauch that much faster???

[Cru328prod]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JmtIOiUj1XQ&feature=related

the guys in the video are gAY

[C230KSPORT00]

So basically it just eliminates delay on the throttle response?? If so, I think $300 might be worth investing... :cool:

[Cru328prod]

haha if u say so......like i said i'll drive 3hrs at $3.57 a gallon 2 put it in

[C230KSPORT00]

Isnt it plug and play? It takes like 30secs to install doesnt it?

[Cru328prod]

yes, but i'lll drive up. hey i got some hids h7 for sale......brand new 75 bucks shipped let me know if you want them, i just put a set in mines they look hella awsome

[C230KSPORT00]

Originally posted by Cru328prod
yes, but i'lll drive up. hey i got some hids h7 for sale......brand new 75 bucks shipped let me know if you want them, i just put a set in mines they look hella awsome Damn man, u should of told me earlier. I just got some HIDs from Bishops freind for $180. Where did u get them for $75??

[Cru328prod]

our distributors, i sold it today......now i have like 15 people asking me for them for $75...i'm like f no i'm not making any money off them

[Logic]

you have any pictures of these hid's? are they a good brand? and if so you better hook up a homie for 75.00 bucks LOL you know my address hehehe.

[Cru328prod]

i duno about goood brand, they're pretty decent, i love them...ebay has them pretty cheap now too

[c55m8o]

Originally posted by Proven Guilty
simply raise the boost of your m45. the m62 may call for larger displacement than the M111 can handle even bored out. i've scratched the surface on this possibility and the larger SC is probably better suited for the V6 found in the 98+ C280s Ah, I never check in here. I'm glad to have been a potential contributor to you and the more money then brains club C230KSPORT00, and sorry for your pocket book! :D ...or you could buy my mechanic's C36 engine & tranni & harness; not as much gains but much easier and very likely more reliable/longer lasting.

Proven Guilty, et many, what you say is a trueizm. Just to share the background, what I was meaning in the quote of the OP was from my original writing from quite a while back, under my previous moniker before I did my engine swap and took on a new 'identity' ;) (and throwing away another 426 post count :p ) :
When Supercharging: Boost vs. Backpressure (a.k.a. When Less Means More) (http://www.club202.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1080&highlight=airflow)

[C230KSPORT00]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by c55m8o
[B]Ah, I never check in here. I'm glad to have been a potential contributor to you and the more money then brains club C230KSPORT00, and sorry for your pocket book! :D QUOTE] Um were you addressing me in that sentence? Cause I dont understand it? More money then brains club? Pocket book? Lol sorry. :p

[c55m8o]

Originally posted by C230KSPORT00
[QUOTE]Originally posted by c55m8o
[B]Ah, I never check in here. I'm glad to have been a potential contributor to you and the more money then brains club C230KSPORT00, and sorry for your pocket book! :D QUOTE] Um were you addressing me in that sentence? Cause I dont understand it? More money then brains club? Pocket book? Lol sorry. :p :D Now I'm not sure if you're pulling my leg or not. Incase not, Ya sorry, I quoted proven guilty but started off replying to you. I'm not always clear ... also, pocket book is a dumb word for me to choose ... meant wallet. Yep, you're being just like me for all that money you'd want to dump into your hoopdie in the name of performance that you'll never get back unlike as if you put it into real-estate or something. ;) I'm a proud if unhappy paying member of the "more money then brains club of america". :laugh: Between camera gear, vintage tube amps, horns and drivers, I've blown another 10 large this past year that could have went to smarter endevours. :dpress:

[Cru328prod]

hahaha i just said f u all, and started dumping money....i'm going to tell you it was the biggest mistake of my life...honestly i have shit to show

[C230KSPORT00]

Originally posted by c55m8o
:D Now I'm not sure if you're pulling my leg or not. Incase not, Ya sorry, I quoted proven guilty but started off replying to you. I'm not always clear ... also, pocket book is a dumb word for me to choose ... meant wallet. Yep, you're being just like me for all that money you'd want to dump into your hoopdie in the name of performance that you'll never get back unlike as if you put it into real-estate or something. ;) I'm a proud if unhappy paying member of the "more money then brains club of america". :laugh: Between camera gear, vintage tube amps, horns and drivers, I've blown another 10 large this past year that could have went to smarter endevours. :dpress: Lol no, I was serious. But yea I know what you mean now. I guess I am a proud member of the "more money then brains club of america" :cool: Lol, thats probably not something to be proud of... :rolleyes: