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[C230KSPORT00]

Hey guys. Will the 2000 SLK230K MT definetly be able to fit into my 2000 C23K? Thanks

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by C230KSPORT00
Hey guys. Will the 2000 SLK230K MT definetly be able to fit into my 2000 C23K? Thanks

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[C230KSPORT00]

Originally posted by OCKlasse
search. I did. I only got a couple of hits. Someone said that it does but I want to be COMPLETELY POSITIVE cause I already have a SLK tranny linned up and ready for purchase. So if someone is absolutely positive, please let me know. Thanks :D

[C230KSPORT00]

Someone please shed some light. I know theres a couple of you guys out there that know the answer. Thanks! :cool:

[SLAMMED_C]

I dont know the answers for sure, but i am interested in a trans swap to manual as well.
its more then just the trans though dude.. you need the flywheel, the pressure plate and all that, a clutch pedal/cylinder assembly, shifter assembly, possibly a different ecu for the manual trans.

[OCKlasse]

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
I dont know the answers for sure, but i am interested in a trans swap to manual as well.
its more then just the trans though dude.. you need the flywheel, the pressure plate and all that, a clutch pedal/cylinder assembly, shifter assembly, possibly a different ecu for the manual trans.

The ECU would be the clincher.

[C230KSPORT00]

Well since im serisously considering this, can someone literally list all of the parts I would need to so can see how much they would cost at this junkyard? SlammedC, what that all?? Thanks guys

[SLAMMED_C]

im honestly not sure of everything you will need. im sure there are small brackets n other misc parts you will need.. just get a whole slk and take what ya need!

[C230KSPORT00]

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
im honestly not sure of everything you will need. im sure there are small brackets n other misc parts you will need.. just get a whole slk and take what ya need! Well considering I have very little knowledge about this kind of stuff, even if I had an entire SLK I really dont know what I would need to swap. I basically rely on you guys for this kindof stuff. Hopefully someone will respond who knows. Cause I really want to do this. Thanks! :D

[RemoLexi]

i was about to do this swap until i sold my c230.

i have a transmission too ... pm me an offer if youd like.

yea you would need the flywheel and a cluth kit. you would need the clutch pedal box assembly slave/master cylinders as well. you can find a shifter for like $100 on ebay those i hear bolt right on. you driveline will need to be entended by about 2-4inches.

in order to get the ecu to work it may be simply a configuration with the SDS at a mercedes-Benz dealer. i have not looked into that but ive heard its not too difficult.

[C230KSPORT00]

I already have a MT lined up. It has 20k miles and comes with a 2 year 40kmile warranty for $1500. Is that all the necessary parts needed? Thanks Remo.

[Pagz]

Didnt Pisit do a MT conversion?....if so he would be the man to ask what was needed...It will be a fair amount of work im sure!.

Paul

[RemoLexi]

Pisit is the one who i talked to about the convertion ... hes got pix too i think ..

[c280nz]

hey got ur pm, il answer it here.
yea talk to pisit he did a manual swap but i bebelive it was on a c220.
i didnt do a swap myne is factory manual.
off the top of my head what ul need.
clutch and flyhweel, pedal box and clutch master and slave cylinder, shift linkage and shifter etc, probebly a new center console to keep it tidy. dont know about ecu
a different driveshaft (probebly just the front half)
and all the mounts that go with the gearbox.
ur gearing will be tall with the standard rear end but thatl be sweet just up the power to match it :-)

and look up phantomgrip for a limited slip rear end if the slk has the same diff? does anyone know.

the mercedes manual gearbox ant the smoothest shift tho, but gota be better than a slush box

[SLAMMED_C]

well there doesnt seem to be a control module for the manual boxes.. checked a wiring diagram. need a clutch pedal switch and have to do some wiring to your ME for signals.. but definitely no control unit.

[C230KSPORT00]

Yea I dont know if im going to do the swap anymore. Its alot of work and I have to get so many parts. I would also have to get aloan and its looking to be around 3k. I am making pretty decent money right now for a 17 year old but im not sure if I want to be making those kind of payments right now. So if i ever do want to pursue this somewhere down the road, its good to know that some of you guys are interested enough to help me out. Thanks guys.

[RemoLexi]

save up your money, sell your ride in the future and get something you like with the options you like. I wish I had done that when I was 17 id have my E55 alot sooner, but instead i wasted money on a 202, then a 204, in the end got rid of both and got something that I really like!

[C230KSPORT00]

Yea Remo, your my inspiration. I want an E55 so bad. Right now there selling for about 35-40k. I figure if I wait till im about half way through college it will be selling for about 20k. So I will continue to spend money on my 202, but not as much as I have been. Thanks for the insite Remo. :D

[pisit]

hey there,
i swapped my transmission about 5 months already. didn't have any serious problem, just needed to fine tune my clutch pedal feeling. i'm using a c220 (1996) and i believe that this is a 5-speed transmission for M111 engine series, but might be from C180 or C220, which I'm not sure the exact model it's from. since you are looking at a slk and c230k transmission which the engine are in the same generation, it should be sharing the same mount and similar gear ratio. if you asked me, i think it should be fine.

anyways, for the transmission swap you would need;
1. transmission box (no doubt abt that, the manual weigh like half the weight of the auto. that's another benefit that you would get from swapping)
2. clutch (i had mine custom made, 4-puck, it that i wanted to but needed it to)
3. front drive shaft (there's a front and rear section, the shaft for manual transmission would be slightly longer, since the manual tranny box is shorter than auto trans)
4. final drive (3.67, i'm thinking of changing back to automatic final drive 3.07)
5. pressure plate
6. clutch pedal
7. clutch cylinder
8. gear lever
9. hmmm, that's all i can think off for now :D

you don't need to change the ecu. for mine, i was told that i can setting in the ecu to work with the manual transmission.

however, don't expect a solid shift feeling like those found in the bimmer. the shift feel jerky and the gears ratio are too long, good for cruising but not for track.

in my case, i'm very happy with my tranny swapping, mainly because i've turboed my engine. it was a big different for me when i move to the manual tranny, the turbo engine work much better, engine, boost and transmission is much more predictable than before.

my PC is dead so didn't have any pic to post, but you might be able to search for it in the forum.

[pisit]

you can find some pic from here
http://www.club202.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14010&highlight=clutch

[C230KSPORT00]

Thanks for all the info Pisit. I really appriciate it. Thanks

[RemoLexi]

I think SLK 717.4 transmissions are a little differnt from the older C180/C220 5-speeds. I believe they are a bit shorter throw and when I drove a slk230k with a munual its what inspired me to do the swap on my c230 but i never got around (still have my transmission sitting in the garage yet the car is sold) I didnt think it was that bad at all very firm short throws. I liked it.

I was planning to throw the M111k engine along with the manual transmission and use the ECU out of the slk too that way things would pretty much be plug and play. extending the driveline costs like $50 to extend and balance at a driveline shop. a new clutch kit with release bearing is around $550 wholsale if you have access to a WorldPAC acount (business only) dealer I think wants under 1k for a clutch kit.

[VIP_MBZ]

Originally posted by C230KSPORT00
Yea Remo, your my inspiration. I want an E55 so bad. Right now there selling for about 35-40k. I figure if I wait till im about half way through college it will be selling for about 20k. So I will continue to spend money on my 202, but not as much as I have been. Thanks for the insite Remo. :D

Slightly off topic, but you can't even get a clean W210 E55 for 20k, and that body has been discontinued for 6 years. No way a W211 E55k will be at 20k within the next 5 unless it's busted up or extremely high mileage, especially since it's easier to mod and make fast than the E63.

-Ray

[C230KSPORT00]

Y is it easier to make the E55 faster than the E63? The E55 already has a SC. Im sure kleeman or someone else is ganna make a SC for the 6.3, if they havent already...

[SLAMMED_C]

i think there is a twin turbo kit for the 63 engines.. I heard about it at least. kleemann or brabus makes it.

[RemoLexi]

because the 55 motor is already running boost and that boost isnt hard to raise.

go ahead and try boosting a high compression 6.3, it would cost you more then whatever your trying to achieve.

[C230KSPORT00]

The E55 looks really nice, but the E63 is drop dead gorgeous. (no offense REMO, I would take the E55 in a heartbeat) I heard that the 5.5 SC beats the 6.3 NA at most speeds because of its extra torque.. Is this true?

[RemoLexi]

yea i like the E63 as well, just that the pointy boatlike front end has yet to grow on me. id take a 55 supercharged over the 63 Na'd

I heard that 55 has better low end because of the blower but 63 owns at high speeds then ive seen youtube videos of the 55 walking past the 63. not sure whos faster here. but definatly 55's are easier to mod.

[C230KSPORT00]

Yea I still have a while to decide what I want. I actually love the pointy front end on the 63. :D

[VIP_MBZ]

Originally posted by C230KSPORT00
Y is it easier to make the E55 faster than the E63? The E55 already has a SC. Im sure kleeman or someone else is ganna make a SC for the 6.3, if they havent already...


Originally posted by RemoLexi
because the 55 motor is already running boost and that boost isnt hard to raise.

go ahead and try boosting a high compression 6.3, it would cost you more then whatever your trying to achieve.

Yep, what he said. Easier to modify an already boost-intended ECU that has a robust fuel map with timing retard based on pressure. Most E55k guys can pick up 100 extra hp while still on stock fuel and ECU. E63 doesn't really have 100 to gain without severe re-engineering of the motor and ECU, not to mention the 7-speed is already pushing its limits at that point (the 5-speed in the E55 is the same one they use in the S65, SL65, CL65, etc).

-Ray

[C230KSPORT00]

O damn. I didnt know all of that stuff. Thanks :cool:

[RemoLexi]

.. not to mention a gnarly MAYBACH torque converter!! :bunny:

[C230KSPORT00]

The E55k has the maybach torque convertor in it??

[RemoLexi]

yep!