E55 18" monoblocks wont fit

[Christopher]

does any one on here have this set up?
i have H&R spacers on my c280 i pulled out the rear ones and placed them on the front rims of the c36 for the bigger 18 inch rims so that it wouldnt hit the upper thing thats that almost touches the 17" amg rim.http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0048_zpsxqcaddmv.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0048_zpsxqcaddmv.jpg.html)
looks like it could work i just need longer bolts to fit with the spacers (i think)... can anyone help please
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[Christopher]

any one know the size i will need?
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/Mobile%20Uploads/Messenger_5820678043793643004_13877577886384185_zp scukgzzte.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Messenger_5820678043793643004_13877577886384185_zp scukgzzte.jpg.html)
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and whats the difference between ball seat and cone? which one will i need?

[mbsickness]

The W210 E55 Monoblocks should fit with no spacers and with the factory lug bolts. From what I can see you are using the E55 tire sizes (245 and 275) and that will not work, too much tire. You should be running 225/40R18 and 255/35R18 Even with these tire sizes there is very little clearance. The beauty of the E55 Mono II's is that there are no spacers and different lugs needed. Once you have reasonable tire sizes it should be a perfect fit. Not the most flattering picture but you can see how tight things are with the 225 and 255 set up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/geraldch/photo-888_zpse362e115.jpg

[Christopher]

not sure if its my computer or the picture but its not showing up

[Christopher]

i dont understand would i need new rims or new tires on my existing 18's can 255 replace 275 on the same rim? i thought it had to do with the width of the rim
im going to delete this after someone answers cuz i feel it is a very stupid question^

[mbsickness]

Yes, you need new tires. The smaller tires will fit just fine with an ever so slight stretch. The 225 fit the 8x18 and the 255 fit on the 9x18 perfectly.

[Christopher]

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i bought these rims because i needed tires, the rims were just sort of a huge bonus..... i wonder if the tires from my front rims on my 280 will fit.. i really dont want to spend money on more tires.. what if i just roll my fenders
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this is how 18''s look with the 245/45R18 that i have on the rear of the c36 right now
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/2013-06-01200731_zps6cc7e954.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/2013-06-01200731_zps6cc7e954.jpg.html)
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[Christopher]

The W210 E55 Monoblocks should fit with no spacers and with the factory lug bolts. From what I can see you are using the E55 tire sizes (245 and 275) and that will not work, too much tire. You should be running 225/40R18 and 255/35R18 Even with these tire sizes there is very little clearance. The beauty of the E55 Mono II's is that there are no spacers and different lugs needed. Once you have reasonable tire sizes it should be a perfect fit. Not the most flattering picture but you can see how tight things are with the 225 and 255 set up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/geraldch/photo-888_zpse362e115.jpg
is that car on lowered springs or stock height?

[Christopher]

i was looking at 202s with rolled fenders doesnt look to bad http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3936/37439234353067241762711.jpg

[mbsickness]

My car is lowered on H&R springs. The C36 has rolled front fenders from the AMG factory as this was one of the modifications to make the car a C36. All w202's had the rear fenders rolled. On the black car pictured I had to trim the drivers side trim molding on the dogleg so clearance is tight even with the 255 size tire in the rear. Hate to say the E55 stock tire sizes which you currently have is just too much tire. Not only width but too much sidewall height.

[Sulaco]

definitely tires too big, as others have stated.

i have 18" that are even wider on mine, all stock suspension with no spacers. fits just fine.

[wichipong]

too much tire!!!! id suggest 225/40 all around...

[wichipong]

http://www.esetuning.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/lug-diagram.jpg

[wichipong]

i was looking at 202s with rolled fenders doesnt look to bad http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3936/37439234353067241762711.jpg

im not sure that its rolled... it looks more like flared.... idk...

[wichipong]

any one know the size i will need?
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and whats the difference between ball seat and cone? which one will i need?


make sure the center bore of the spacers is 66.56 or a tad bigger.... not too big or too small or its just a waste of money

[SnowwhiteMerc]

you need spacers!!!!! in the front....i just did this not too long and had some clashing of the parts your talking about go, 225 in the front 235 in rear, 40's!!

[Christopher]

Is it cone of ball for lug bolts for the e55 monoblocks

[SnowwhiteMerc]

Use your regular stock lug studs

[Christopher]

Already tried that they don't fit they need spacers

[Christopher]

Use your regular stock lug studs

Your stock lugs fit with the spacers in the front? I think I don't need the spacers in the back but I prefer them

[SnowwhiteMerc]

Your stock lugs fit with the spacers in the front? I think I don't need the spacers in the back but I prefer them yup look through my threads i asked about it, i used my stock studs and spacers in the front, fit perfect, lowered on bilsteins and h&r springs, 1.5 drop all around

[Christopher]

Hmm well hopefully it gets done tomorrow but thanks that pretty useful information

[Christopher]

They said I need at least a 25 mm spacer In the front to it will not hit my caliper, there is no way it fits even if there was no tire on my car

[wichipong]

They said I need at least a 25 mm spacer In the front to it will not hit my caliper, there is no way it fits even if there was no tire on my car

what's the wheel specs?

[Christopher]

That's another thing there is no specs written on them!

[Christopher]

2 inch bolt with h&r spacer and brabus rim
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/IMAG0108_zpsur6otqpi.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/IMAG0108_zpsur6otqpi.jpg.html)
the amount of room untill thread starts
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caliper
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bolt
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dont even know what size spacer this is but its the one i used on the rear with the brabus rim
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amount of room left with e55 monoblock and spacer

[Christopher]

is it ball or cone that these rims need for the lug bolts?

[mbsickness]

Just out of curiosity what is the measurements and ET of the rims? The W210 E55 wheels are 8x18 with ET31 and 9x18 with ET35. I'm almost thinking you have rims from a S-Class as a spacer that thick would never come close to working with the E55 Mono II's I have.

[Christopher]

Was hoping someone here could just eye ball them and tell me the exact specs of these rims I didn't see the stamp anywhere on the rims with the specs but maybe there just too dirty from the inside. Anyways very frusterating hopefully gets resolved soon

[Christopher]

Hwa 140 401 0102http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/IMAG0110_zpsby0ptykh.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/IMAG0110_zpsby0ptykh.jpg.html)

[Christopher]

Just out of curiosity what is the measurements and ET of the rims? The W210 E55 wheels are 8x18 with ET31 and 9x18 with ET35. I'm almost thinking you have rims from a S-Class as a spacer that thick would never come close to working with the E55 Mono II's I have.
your right w140 S class... What now?

[mbsickness]

Well that actually explains a lot. So are the rims staggered or are all four the same dimensions? The next item is if you are going to try and use the 245/275 setup assuming they can even fit inside the wheel wells. At this point I would say you need spacers all the way around.

[Christopher]

Not really sure what staggered means but the rims on the back look wider than the ones in the front of that answers your question. I wish I knew what the size of these rims though

[mbsickness]

So staggered means the front and rear rims are different widths. The size of the rims is stamped on the backside just where you found the part number and offset and will look like this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/geraldch/null_zpsb9eaa70e.jpg

In the above case the rim 9 x 18 with an offset or ET35.

[wichipong]

you need longer studs definitely... no stamping on the back of the wheels? take pics and post...

[wichipong]

Hwa 140 401 0102http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/IMAG0110_zpsby0ptykh.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/IMAG0110_zpsby0ptykh.jpg.html)

came from 140 s class and not e55... maybe needing at least 15mm spacers and your bolts look 50mm shank... you may need 60 or 65mm shank..

[Christopher]

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[Christopher]

make sure the center bore of the spacers is 66.56 or a tad bigger.... not too big or too small or its just a waste of money
I'm here in chatworth picking these up I hope it's not a waste a money even though I know the bore is different. Not sure if I could make this work but don't really see many options. All I know is that one thong is for sure and it's that these lug boltsvare longer than the ones I have nd there the ball lug bolts that the rims take that alone is worth a lot I'm basically going to get everything for the price of the bolts not to mention that they are very hard to find, and if I do find them they will be pricey. This guy should be here in a couple minutes I'm sitting in my car thinking about what to do. Any remarks?
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[Christopher]

So this is what I'm getting plus 10 more long ball lug boltshttp://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/IMAG0132_zpsvl7flvvf.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/IMAG0132_zpsvl7flvvf.jpg.html)

[mbsickness]

Wow I have never seen a wheel with no dimensions cast into it...I guess there is always a first time. Right now I assume all for rims have the same part number and therefore are the same size and offset. According to the part number you have a 8.5X18 rim with an offset or ET of 47. This is what I got out of a an online offset calculator. Based on how tight my car runs with 255/35 tires in the rear if you were to go with the 255/35 rear you would need something like an 18mm spacer. For the front using a 225/40 tire you would need something like a 9mm spacer.

[Christopher]

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/IMAG0137_zpslrkbgt7h.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/IMAG0137_zpslrkbgt7h.jpg.html)
this was the guys benz that sold me the adapters and spacers he has a bunch of cool cars he also has a really nice cosworth 190.
he said i was gambling by buying the adapters but all i really cared about was the long lug bolts. still came out pretty expensive though not to mention i had to drive an hour there and an hour back

[mbsickness]

Hope it all works out. Those look like 19's on the sellers C36. The creeping costs remind me of my C36 body kit....having known how much it would cost in the end would have prevented me from starting the project but once you start the project you are committed to seeing it through.

[Christopher]

Ready or not here comes the BOOMhttp://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/IMAG0155_1_zpsaghvwsuv.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/IMAG0155_1_zpsaghvwsuv.jpg.html)

[mbsickness]

Congrats on getting it all fitted. any rubbing or clearance issues? I assume you are still running the 275/245 combo.

[Christopher]

Nope... Just kidding heck yes there is rubbing and every little dip the back hits hard, looks like I'm gonna have to go 225 in the back and 205 in the front

[Christopher]

I really want adjustable coil overs now, or maybe just maybe air bags just because SD202 makes it look so cool

[Christopher]

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[wichipong]

you should be good with 225 all around or 215 fronts 225 rears

[SD202]

you should be good with 225 all around or 215 fronts 225 rears

yup exactly! 225 all around. I run 225/35 in the rear with 25mm spacer. no rub at all. even when aired out.

[shizzy]

i have 245 35 20 on the back no rub. im on eibachs aswell stock pads. you see all the spots on the inside of your wheel well that are rubbing? Hit those with a hammer. The grey plastic moulding near the rear wheel must also be shaved and rolled. As for the front youll have to remove the fender liner and roll the fronts and remove the little vent shaped piece that comes off the front bumper. Zero rub on 10xdub.

[Christopher]

i have 245 35 20 on the back no rub. im on eibachs aswell stock pads. you see all the spots on the inside of your wheel well that are rubbing? Hit those with a hammer. The grey plastic moulding near the rear wheel must also be shaved and rolled. As for the front youll have to remove the fender liner and roll the fronts and remove the little vent shaped piece that comes off the front bumper. Zero rub on 10xdub.

I just got back from out of town I'm gonna get back at it tomorrow, this sounds interesting do you have pictures?

[shizzy]

check my thread "bin a while"

[steeb]

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg265/steebbeets/20130210_122757.jpg

Running the same wheels with 225/40 and 255/35 Pirelli P-zero. 15mm and 12mm spacers. No rubbing at stock height. Had rubbing with 235/40 in the front

The one thing with running these wheels is you MUST order custom bolts from RAD. 12mm bolt with a 14mm ball seat.

[Christopher]

I have the rad bolts and Im already running adapters and spacers the front doesn't really rub I think there 245/35/18 I'll double check but the turn all the way without hitting the only thing is I need to take off the plastic covers because you could hear ot touch sometimes

[Christopher]

The rad bolts I have are bigger than the ones I already had and the one that I had were already 2 inches

[wichipong]

The rad bolts I have are bigger than the ones I already had and the one that I had were already over an inch and a half

make sure you use c class bolts... its 12 X 1.50mm i believe e class uses 14 X 1.50mm

[Christopher]

Look at what my dumbass just did...http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/IMAG0484_zpsbbra1slp.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/IMAG0484_zpsbbra1slp.jpg.html)
Anyone have a part number for this?

[JRE320]

That is so terrible. Forcing something that won't work.

[Christopher]

That's what she said

[Sulaco]

zing!

not sure what's going wrong. stock E55 rims should fit a stock 202 like a glove. maybe you're too low?

[shizzy]

you have to shave trim roll pull and bang for this to work :cool:

[Christopher]

Sounds good to me, I think I might try smaller tires though first there's some hancooks 225/40/r18 all 4 for 160 or dunlops performance tires for same price same size, although I think my set up that I have now will be fine if I do what you just said. I love just looking at it it's soo beefy and aggressive with the huge spacers and adapters

[mbsickness]

zing!

not sure what's going wrong. stock E55 rims should fit a stock 202 like a glove. maybe you're too low?

He is working with w140 monoblocks and not w210(e55) ones hence the spacer and clearance issues.

[mbsickness]

you have to shave trim roll pull and bang for this to work :cool:

Even with the w210 monoblock I had to file away some material from that exact piece of molding on the backside. It doesn't take much to get it to clear. You are now dealing with production tolerances as I had to file my 94 but not my 96.

[Christopher]

Mines a 96, although my 97 has 18s and it's dropped and has never had an issue. Very tricky.
On another note has anyone had headliner work done? Or replaced it themselves I don't mean to jump around I know I should do one thing at a time but I have a feeling I'm going to resolve this rubbing issue soon and already thinking about what's next

[Christopher]

I'm getting 255/35/18 back and 235/40/18 front perelli pzero about to install let's see how this goes

[JRE320]

Did you ever check the offset of the rims? The tires are perfect now.

[Christopher]

I couldn't check it because it wasn't listed anywhere on the rim but I think everything is now successfully equipped now http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/IMAG0508_zps4gfmlfvz.jpg (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/IMAG0508_zps4gfmlfvz.jpg.html)
Thank you all for the help

[svt ricco]

Can you fit 5 adults with no rubbing? mine can with no issues, if you can, congrats on fixing it! For reference, here's mine on h&r...http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x84/rn_suavee/Random%20Pics/20130627_190254_zpsa548818b.jpg

[JRE320]

Can you fit 5 adults with no rubbing? mine can with no issues, if you can, congrats on fixing it! For reference, here's mine on h&r...http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x84/rn_suavee/Random%20Pics/20130627_190254_zpsa548818b.jpg

You still got those rims. :-)

[svt ricco]

Yes... Got them refinished by a professional finally! Haha

[Christopher]

it rubs awful with 5 people how did you fix this, and how much was the refinish job

[wichipong]

it rubs awful with 5 people how did you fix this, and how much was the refinish job

fix rubbing issues??? what tire size are you using?

and are you asking how much to refinish wheels? my guesstimate is 150-250 a wheel.

[Christopher]

Doesn't rub unless I hit big dips or up big driveways by myself bit with anyone else in the car it's ridiculous 255/235 pzeros

[wichipong]

Doesn't rub unless I hit big dips or up big driveways by myself bit with anyone else in the car it's ridiculous 255/235 pzeros

if you want to not rub, notch down your rear tires to 235 or even 225.... that should fix your problem... if you want you can even go to 215s...

i have 225 rears and 215 fronts currently

[JRE320]

The 255 rear & 225 front is the perfect fit.

[Karlo1988]

Dude everyone knows that the perfect tire fit is going to be with 225/40r18 front and 255/35/r18 Back..... Now I can relate to your problem BC my wheels came off an Sclass as well and the original bolts do not fit the wheel so I had to customs made mine BC I didn't where to order them from so I got Mercedes bolts but had to cut them so they can fit

[benz4life]

Look at what my dumbass just did...[IMG]http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/christopherjoeromero/IMAG0484_zpsbbra1slp.jpg[IMG] (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/christopherjoeromero/media/IMAG0484_zpsbbra1slp.jpg.html)
Anyone have a part number for this?


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