C43/CLK55 Conversion

[Pagz]

nd4spd13,
Yep, upto 06/00 CLK55 is EGS51/ME2.0, it also says it on the TCU and EPC part numbers for TCU confirm this.

The wiring diagrams for the tip TCU(EGS51 or 52) show the anolog inputs from a gate shifter as writen "not used".

The tiptronic C43 uses EGS 51, I have all the wiring diagrams and part numbers for all, I printed out all diagrams for EGS51 CLK55,00 C43 and 99 C43 to make sure everything was going to work,also wiring diagrams show all ME2.8/EGS52 updates with after 06/00-->

There are other parts you need with multifunction, like 5 wire steering angle sensor and assosiated 5 pin wiring from clk55 plus indicator arm which is same but holds the 5 wire plug inside. also your horn no longer goes striaght to EIS, it goes via the multifunction cluster so EIS needs a single brown wire to EIS pin 8 from cluster ,also stoplamp switch updates for 00 C43/00 CLK55 onwards to work with touchshift harness, you need to also change plugs on this to suit your chassis harness. another update is the airbag wiring, you will want to use the CLK's one and run it directly to your airbag module,you could use the original green/purple cable but you would need to cut and solder.

If your interested in the swap a whole CLK55 is the ONLY way to go, you will use many many 202/208 parts from it.. make sure you get a good one ;)

[Pagz]

First trip after conversion
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[kowalski]

First trip after conversion
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hey pagzie
how long did this full swap take you?
2 months of total build time or longer?

did you compare your speedo scale readings with a gps?
your vehicle speed is it accurate with the new speedo fitted?

show us more shots of the final result, both interior and exteriör pictures, close ups are preffered

[AMG KC]

You would have a hard time fitting that old brick in ;), think quad cams!

Isnt it just an over bored version of the 55 engine? Oh well, f*** it then!! :)

[AMG KC]

Either way i go, ill be keeping that stock rear end ratio, i quite like the way its geared at the moment.

[SD202]

Just hard wire the rear switches to the relays for the rear regulators, youll lose auto but you aint got that now, so who cares ;)

I probably wont bother with the senders for a while, ill track down and gather the parts though.

Next stop i reckon might be poly bushings in the front, im getting some clunks over low speed bumps. Does anyone do a poly bushing kit for the C43?

I have Solid polys on my C43. IMO Theyre better than OEM but I like the stiffer more responsive ride. It did however increase the amount of road noise transfer to the cabin.

[kowalski]

I have Solid polys on my C43. IMO Theyre better than OEM but I like the stiffer more responsive ride. It did however increase the amount of road noise transfer to the cabin.

do you have the LPD poly bushes up front?

[Pagz]

hey pagzie
how long did this full swap take you?
2 months of total build time or longer?

did you compare your speedo scale readings with a gps?
your vehicle speed is it accurate with the new speedo fitted?

show us more shots of the final result, both interior and exteriör pictures, close ups are preffered

Hello Dennis,

It is hard to say how long this this swap took, maybe 2 months in ideal situations!. I invested a lot of time.. I don't feel I could do such a project again for a while ;)

I have not compared the new speedo, but I should do thanks for reminding!.

More photo's to come, I have been waiting for interior parts to come MB made many mistakes trying to supply the shifter surround but I finally got it 3 months later..and now I find I need more parts!.:confused:

For anyone undertaking a touch shifter change here is some extra info:

Outer shifter trim from 98/99 W202 fits the W208's inner touchshift gate wood finish..but it does NOT fit the updated W202 inner touchshift gate black plastic finish as it is a few mm wider(don't understand why MB did this).
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I also ordered the glove compartment that replaces the ash tray, but unfortunately ordered the right carpet but wrong glove compartment, I may re-order the right one. I didn't understand why the carpet had to be cut to fit^^, so would have to buy a new carpet too ;) haha.
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If you do not want to replace the ash try with shallow glove compartment you still need to purchase the shallow spectical holder.
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Cheers,

[DRBC43AMG]

I havnt been back on here for some time, so plenty of reading to catch up. Great work!

[SD202]

do you have the LPD poly bushes up front?


yes sir.

[AMG KC]

Well i was looking last couple nights at suitable 55 cars to swap engines into my C43, seems the best low miles cars were CL55, but i noticed the engine cover is different so i wonder what else could be...

Im thinking of just buying a 2006 C55 and leaving my C43 as it is... Im not going to sell it, cause its awesome, but i think i need that extra power...

[funboy2000]

Pagz you're so taking me for a ride in that thing lol. By chance, do you still have that steering rack, engine mounts and shocks you had for sale?

[KrumB]

Hi Pagz,
Did you dynoed the car?

Cheers

[Pagz]

Hello's

Excuse the late reply life got busy.

KC, You can swap pretty much any of the 5.4's in you just need various parts from the C/CLK like the oil pan,maybe oil pump etc but always the coolant plug on right side. The air intake/filter from the C43 will also drop onto any of the 5.4's.

Funboy, sure np though the stars will need to align with a time when it isn't broken^^. I still have the c43/clk55 shock, also the Koni adjustables and engine mounts,if you install the V8 ones the car feels much better vs the stock 4 cyl ones.

Krum, I definitely plan to dyno soon, I will use the same dyno we tuned my turbo 202, I really want to overlay results with the 5.4 ;)

Few small updates:


Shallow Odd-mints compartment installed with 12v outlet,matching colour coded tray above.(for touchshift MY2000 version but also available for 98/99) ... If you can let go of your matching fake carbon look ash tray this is a perfect mod for anyone wanting somewhere to throw your phone/wallet,love it.
Unfortunately MB no longer make the black surround for the touch shifter, if you order black you will receive chrome,I hope to find a black one or maybe paint this one.

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Remo,Whilst playing with the ME2.0 C43 ECU I deleted the coding, this allows you to enter new coding located in the EPC, the ME will only accept 9-digit codes it recognises so I was able to find approx. 10 accepted codes including E55. the only thing I couldn't get it to accept was my original C43 code(wtf) anyway:
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One interesting outcome with a few of the codes was this...I wonder which fuel/ign maps it has though..
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Cheers

[AMG KC]

Pagz, its no problem, happens to us all ;)

Looking around i still see i can get a really nice low klms CL55 for around $30,000 AUD, although there is also a pretty nice looking high klms E55 for $12,000ish now too. Either way i would want to sell the donor car again with the 43 engine for a reasonable drop in price.

Unless ofcourse i could get a deal like you did on a damaged vehicle that has a good engine and trans, if it was an E55 would be good to grab the larger wheels too.

Im going to go the full suspension refit soon, will do the lot, all from K-MAC, including their bigger sway bars.

[Pagz]

KC,
I went through the whole swap and resell idea also but I strongly suggest you wait for a damaged E55 or CLk55, they will turn up I'm sure!

The only problem I have found with the entire clk55 swap is the rear windows not being recognised by the EIS, I think the only way around this will be to make the CLK55's ECU virgin again ,use the C43's EIS and recode the clk55 ECU with C43 VIN and let them get married... we will see ;)

Good luck with the suspension, I find that part of tuning really hit and miss!(usually more miss's ;) )

[Sulaco]

KC,
I went through the whole swap and resell idea also but I strongly suggest you wait for a damaged E55 or CLk55, they will turn up I'm sure!

The only problem I have found with the entire clk55 swap is the rear windows not being recognised by the EIS, I think the only way around this will be to make the CLK55's ECU virgin again ,use the C43's EIS and recode the clk55 ECU with C43 VIN and let them get married... we will see ;)

Good luck with the suspension, I find that part of tuning really hit and miss!(usually more miss's ;) )

I thought you could use original C43 ECU which is 100% compatible with 5.4 NA swap?

[Pagz]

Sulaco,
Yes sure apparently it works fine and many have done it, A small part of me is sceptical as to weather its as good as maps built for the 5.4

AMG do replace the C43 ECU on the gate-shift and touch shift C55, I have both the ECU numbers for these they are not in EPC...My assumptions are that it is map related.

I'm using the CLk55 ECU because I believe the maps are identical to the C55 seeing as the cams and exhaust are identical, but also because it accepts the touch shift system as well =)

[AMG KC]

If an E55 comes up i would go that way for the wheels as well, since they apparently go straight on.

There is a couple for fair prices at the moment, 1 with 140,000 for $19,000 with a rebuilt trans, and 1 with 227,000 but very nice condition for 12,000...

[Sulaco]

yeah since you have the touch shift then your options are limited

but I KNOW there's a youtube video of a C43/55 on the dyno where the guy pulled with C43 ECU and then E55 ECU and it put down slightly more power with the C43 ECU. I'd link it but no youtube at work :\

[Pagz]

Sulaco,
I have seen that info somewhere too...But I've also seen somebody say they dyno'd after the conversion and the maps were lean in the top end with 43 ecu!

Same era E55 uses different exhaust so maps may well be slightly different?

KC,
18's mono's look the part for sure a must if your going mono;)... Still I think damaged is the way to go but if you think you can pull off a resale by all means!

[AMG KC]

Yeah i have always liked those wheels.

[AMG KC]

I blew away a TT Supra today, now with a 55 engine i couldve made him wish he stayed in bed ;)

Happy birthday to me ;) Hahaha!!

[Pagz]

KC, Have you found your 5.4 ?..

A small update on this project..

Because the CLK55 is two door its EIS is only programmed for A208/C208, this means the rear window modules cannot talk to EIS on the interior CAN bus,thus rear window actuation does not work. I think there are two ways around this, make the CLK55 ECU virgin and mate it to the C43 EIS, or swap immo chip from C43 to CLK55 ecu, still working through the safest way to do this..

Also, OCP frequency was different on CLK55, so the CLK55 key would not work long range...this initially went undetected because my rear door modules had been failing since I purchased the C43 so the key was already not working long distance due to the common "CAN high" fault dragging down the interior CAN...this causes the common DCM1 failure so drivers side window and IR key pickup stops working...which is really DCM3 or 4 at fault. , I have since replaced both rear door modules DCM3/4 and swapped over the circuit board from the CLK55 OCP and all works 100% with CLK55 keys, OCP parts are also swappable between housings so you can get your colours right.. only catch is if freq is different and your C43 has sunroof and the donor doesn't you will need to buy a new one, but other way round is fine.

Have started to get some prop shaft vibration at 60 - 80 kmh, I suspect I should have going through the full prop alighment after install, have purchased a digital spirit level and will make some brackets to read off. also, before setup im going to replace the flexi couplings, trans and engine mounts.

And I still haven't had the AC re-gassed, I do have a new dryer element just need to get the compressor oil cleaned out.^^

[RemoLexi]

Manual roll-up rear windows and call it a day!

[Pagz]

Yea straight after dropping 1k for DCM3/4 ^^

[AMG KC]

No mate, that E55 i went to look at wasnt as nice as it looked in the pictures, and wasnt really as described either. The engine didnt look good, although ran smooth, and the "rebuilt" trans was leaking from the common areas they all leak from before they are repaired.

It also failed a roadworthy inspection, the interior was poorly presented, and it wasnt worth the $18,000 he was asking. The car is still for sale too.

[Pagz]

Sounds like you made a good call! ;)

[RemoLexi]

... I just forked out $4k on a damn clutch. Could have bought a C43 project car

[Dearlove]

for the Porsche?

[AMG KC]

Sounds like you made a good call! ;)

Yeah mate i figure he will keep it for some time unless he drops the price, i wouldnt pay more than 10 for it as it is

[RemoLexi]

Yes triple plate carbon clutch w. billet flywheel. Total weight 22lbs.

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m478/remolexi/87B22C85-B5E5-467A-851B-0C7C2FD6161E-16388-000003591158152F_zps24a0a7c6.jpg

[RemoLexi]

Sorry for the thread hack.

[kowalski]

pagz, i red your thread from the beginning to the end.
till now are you still happy with your conversion?
did you face any other headaches besides your problem with rear windows not opening?

i'm getting a hard on for a 55 swap, ha ha!
when i have the funds i will buy an engine, I will only do the engine swap and nothing else.
i found an E55 AMG MY09/2001 = ME2.8/EGS52

for this MY2001 engine, is it only to lift over the C43 engine wireloom, headers, alternator, starter and throttlebody from my C43 over to the 5.4L engine?
then just dump the engine into my car?
Kaype on MB-world said to try with both type C43/E55 injectors when the modification is done to see which ones are the best suitable for the 5.4L engine?
MY2001 engine has less than 160000KM on the clock, would it be time for a chain and guide rails replacement?

keep a safe and happy driving buddy

[Pagz]

Remo, that looks like some serious bite, have you installed?, cant see any springs in there!;)

Dennis,
Very happy with the swap, only thing not working is rear windows, only fault code given is "lower control panel( LCP) Does not match car", this is the module with window switches behind the shifter,This is because the clk55 EIS only wants to see w208 LCP.

I think if oil changes have been done at extended intervals then there will be some wear on oil pump guide and maybe less on timing chain guides, hard to tell if its worth changing as it is alot of work, I would say no unless there is obvious problems.

I think the part's you mention do change with me2.8 but I do not have a full list, best to get epc and compare parts!.

In epc they say not to install new cams from early 5.4, iirc cams #38/39. I suspect these cams wear poorly or are not best timing. I have these cams and would like to get updated ones but they are too expensive new.

I do wish that the tip shifter would change faster when up shifting before corners, it makes me want to install me2.8 and do what fabian did!.

I nearly purchased a 711.670 gear box but found the larger flywheels from 500nm engines have different crank bolt pattern and cps pickup is totally different, so I think I will finally throw out that dream;)

[RemoLexi]

Not like you haven't spun custome flywheels before! ;)

The serious bite isn't serious. It's being built currently, won't see it for a few weeks. Now time to drop out the flat 6 and transaxle. Claims are that this is the god of clutches, no rattle or noise, factory feel pedal (not a bag of sand) and you can slip it long as you want to get rolling and then release for a catapulted launch. I'm itching to try that and some K24's on a mild 800whp tune.

[RemoLexi]

I too am going for a 5.4 swap into a 43 in the next few weeks.

Got this baby sitting in my garage ready to be freshened up before install! 100k miles!

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m478/remolexi/BF87EACD-05E6-4A05-99C7-D3F1631B72C7-18970-000003E733C15646_zps6dc59a0b.jpg

[kowalski]

I too am going for a 5.4 swap into a 43 in the next few weeks.

Got this baby sitting in my garage ready to be freshened up before install! 100k miles!

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m478/remolexi/BF87EACD-05E6-4A05-99C7-D3F1631B72C7-18970-000003E733C15646_zps6dc59a0b.jpg

what year is your 5.4L engine?
did you get one of the last 2001/2002 engines or an earlier version?

some engines comes with an airpump fitted to the round bracket ontop of the engine, other engines doesn't have the airpump, bracket just sits there empty onto the engine, what does this pump do?
is it a smog pump for californian market cars?

[AMG KC]

Yep, thats all its for.

[Pagz]

Much more serious than the one I made ;) ...Always wondered how much better the multipack clutches are, look forward to the results man

The air pump,does it inject air into the exhaust via the heads to counter the rich startup AFR? ..I recall those diaphragm ports link to the exhaust runners but my memory is guts...

[AMG KC]

Yes, thats what it does, i remember dealing with them on Corvettes where people thought they could turn them into superchargers...

It blows air into the headers to make the cats heat up quicker, should only run for about 3-5 minutes at the most on start up.

[RemoLexi]

That's exactly what the pump does as AMG KC stated, it will run for 60 seconds on cold start up.

The engine in my garage is an 01' ML55. It is equipped with that pump but was removed prior to washing the motor. Those pumps are somewhat high demand used parts because they fail (bearings rust up) so it's good to keep an extra one put aside.

[AMG KC]

Not sure why youd worry about it failing, itll make no difference to how the car runs!!

[RemoLexi]

Check engine light, failing smog ect. We have to pass every 2 years here in CA.

[AMG KC]

Oh roger that, didnt know it set a DTC. Carry on :)

[RemoLexi]

Yup. If only you knew the crap we deal with. Smog techs will smog your car and then at the end check readiness monitors and if some aren't ready, you basically fail, have to pay and then pay again when it's ready. MB has to be the worst to get the damn monitors to run.

[AMG KC]

I remember some of it back in the old Corvette days, but i also remember it being quite easy to circumvent the system with certain models.

[funboy2000]

every 2 years? You guys have it easy haha. Every half a year for me.

[AMG KC]

Never for me... The car either starts or it doesnt!

[SD202]

I too am going for a 5.4 swap into a 43 in the next few weeks.

Got this baby sitting in my garage ready to be freshened up before install! 100k miles!

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m478/remolexi/BF87EACD-05E6-4A05-99C7-D3F1631B72C7-18970-000003E733C15646_zps6dc59a0b.jpg

When are you going to come to SD and help me throw one of these in my 43 :o

[RemoLexi]

I'm not a mobile mechanic and my labor rates increase if the customers is breathing down my neck! Haha

[Somalia757]

Man, amazing job. I'm speechless....im itching to do something to my C36 not much performance parts I can find for it besides the ecu stuff. And suspension. Idk if I want a swap or try to work with what I have. Nitrous has been on my mind but at almost 149k I am not sure I wont break something, any suggestions pm me.

[AMG KC]

You wont break anything, but its not really a very practical power adder.

[SD202]

I'm not a mobile mechanic and my labor rates increase if the customers is breathing down my neck! Haha

So that's a yes? :rolleyes::p LMAO just playin! I'm not seriously asking! I know you ain't got time for that shit. haha

[RemoLexi]

I'm working away on a swap now, but lucky for me people are forced to wait a few weeks until its done.

I just finished another 97' C36 6-speed conversion last week.

[Pagz]

Pics remo!:)

How does the 6 speed fit the tunnel around where the shift rod attaches to the box?, curious as epc specs a shifter for the touchshift tunnel which I think had the 6 speed in a couple of variants?..

I would like to add a c36 manual project one day, was a nice 97 nz new low km one same as your deceased dark green/blue for sale recently i should have purchased it..

[RemoLexi]

I didn't take any pictures at all. The job was a drag because it felt repetitive to me.

In order to slide the 6-speed easily, engine mounts were removed completely and the engine lay on the frame, with the front raised to provide a nice angle.

The tunnel space is tight, some modification to the trans mount brace is required as the tunnel gets wider when the gearbox is shorter. On the brace, I used 1" drop spacers to make extra room up top. I know it alters the overall cant angle, but no vibration has ever been felt from the driveline. If I had the proper mount brace I'm positive it would sit the rear of the gearbox lower, however, sourcing a manual trans brace in the US is pulling teeth.

Another thing was that the horseshoe of the shifter as well as the shift rod was all made shorter but several inches when I had initially pieced together the project.

[AMG KC]

Man, amazing job. I'm speechless....im itching to do something to my C36 not much performance parts I can find for it besides the ecu stuff. And suspension. Idk if I want a swap or try to work with what I have. Nitrous has been on my mind but at almost 149k I am not sure I wont break something, any suggestions pm me.

I was thinking about this a bit, and being a C36 it would have the 4 speed auto? You could probably change the rear end ratio in it and improve acceleration a fair amount.

[Denlasoul]

Will the 5.5L engine bolt up properly with the 722.5 transmission or is it only compatible with 722.6+?

[RemoLexi]

I highly doubt it will bolt to a type 5. If you want, I can post a pic if the bellhousing of a 5.4 if you want to confirm.

[Denlasoul]

Hmm. If they were able to change a 98 C43 to a C55 then they did one of two things: use the 722.5 or change the tranny.

Hopefully it's the first option. If not, then I will need a tranny with the engine.

[Pagz]

As I know the M113/112 W202 was only ever fitted with 722.6

The early C55 used either the gate shifted 722.636 from 98-99 E55 or 722.636 Touch shift for 00 models.

I did see something interesting the other day where someone fitted a M112 to a pre 98 chassis and looked like they had welded in the main engine support cross member from the 98+ , I could be wrong but it surely looked this way!.. there was a huge amount of rewiring involved also..

[RemoLexi]

Denlasoul, if you are interested in a 5.4 swap into your C43, you will not need a new trans. When you mentioned 722.5 (I believe that's an older model to the 722.6) and was found in W124's and very early 202's. (not entirely sure there was a 722.5, I know there was a 722.4, 4-speed.)

[AMG KC]

I thought all C43s had the 722.631???

But either way, i have a question. Will the torque converter from a W211 E55 fit a 99 C43? I see a few threads about them going to 11" converters with up to 3,000rpm stall, and that is just what the C43 needs to get it moving off the line.

[RemoLexi]

That's torque converter on the 211 55's is a Maybach part and should carry a W240 part number.

It should fit fine. But prior to installation I would want to double check the 6-bolts that mate it to the flexplate.

[Pagz]

KC, all C43 have 722.631!

Flex plate has different part number with the 2002+ M113 so definitely check that ;)

hows the 5.4 build coming along Remo?

[AMG KC]

I will see if i can get info out of the manufacturer. The stock stall speed is way too low for that engine.

[RemoLexi]

In 06' the m113 crank bolt pattern changed!

The 5.4 swap I'm doing is not on high priority, I had just bought a house out in the mountain range and working on my new property is consuming a lot of time.

But it's all resealed and ready to drop in. I am doing this at home because I can work on it when I have a spare hour or so

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[AMG KC]

Looks like new!

[Pagz]

Looks good! Far enough houses should always be first ;)

I didn't realize the crank bolts changed, only that the flexi plate and crank updates after engine 60 046180 which I assume was 2002+(W203/209 etc) with higher compression?

Edit - Sorry think I'm confusing the Kompressor variant with na 5.4,did the bolt pattern stay same as 98-02 M113 on 209 CLK55,203 C55 etc?

[AMG KC]

Houses? I still live in a shed!! But this is Australia and ive got 7 acres of land ;)

[Pagz]

Ha ha!..it's a shed w/400m2 for me prices are like London here,I'd love some land out of the city for a decent garage one day:D

[AMG KC]

So far had minimal luck finding any info on a higher stall converter to fit the C43 and E55, the easiest one i found was the 03-07 converter to fir the 32 cars and the 55 cars.

[RemoLexi]

I'm pretty sure the 211 E55 one will work for you!

[AMG KC]

Pretty sure? Hahaha!! Its alot of money to spend on being pretty sure though!!

Is there any way you can find out for sure?

[Pagz]

If it isnt in his thread PM Fabian man ;).. http://mbworld.org/forums/w210-amg/513621-e55-speedshift-paddles-m-mode-other-mods.html

[AMG KC]

Brilliant, ill check that out ;)



I remember putting that higher stall Vigilante converter in my 94 Corvette and although the car wasnt much faster from it on paper, it FELT a hell of alot faster!! Was easier to drive in traffic too, it was a 383 with almost nothing until 3,000rpm, with a serious burst of rage from 3,500rpm...

[RemoLexi]

99% sure.

[AMG KC]

Yeah id really like to do it, i reckon itll make the car alot more exciting to drive

[Proven Guilty]

Paul! You're still at it! I am getting the W202 bug again after all these years. Do you still have the C23T or did it sell?
-Chris

[Pagz]

Hey Chris,Don't the years fly past;)..Yes still at it I do wonder if I'll ever move on to a newer chassis haha, I do like the W205 a fair amount. I disassembled the C23T and sold everything separately around 4 years ago,Ross(slammedC) installed most of the turbo system his,I have not heard from him in a while and how that is going.. Looking back now I would have preferred to have kept it all although I don't think the 270Nm rated trans would have lasted much longer, I was starting to get odd noises on decal from the prop or gearbox.

Are you on the look out for a C43/C36?

[Pagz]

double post.

[dokotela]

damn...can't believe i have not been on here for this long....wow
you have really been keeping busy paul. congrats buddy.
we have lots to discuss with regard to the 201 and 202. check your pm as well.
and that 250d.....red is the only other elusive colour i would add to my collection.
i think i am the only one stuck in a time warp...almost going nowhere slowly...lol

do you have a part number for that tray that replaces the ashtray? would look supercool in my 2000..i just swapped it out with the sport interior too.

[Sulaco]

I'm stuck in a time warp too, still driving my 202. Always will.

[dokotela]

I'm stuck in a time warp too, still driving my 202. Always will.

aaah so there is a reason i was brought here...lol
just cannot get enough of these cars...it's a sickness really

[Pagz]

Hey Naushad, has is really been that long!!. With that many cars how do you find the time man, you need kids xD

know that feeling well,I'm always wondering if I will make the big jump to the newer models!,I do fancy the w205 twin turbo somewhat ;)

if you like to tinker than the 201/202's are great!, but I still prefer working on the 202 over the 201 its much friendlier^^

[SLAMMED_C]

I'm still around, just not on here much. Too much going on and just not enough time. Unfortunately my Turbo 202 project has been parked in my garage for a few years now. Need to get a lot of things sorted out on it.
Been contemplating finding a C43 and doing the 5.5 swap. But we will see. If I can find a clean one, the Turbo project will be parted out.

Good to see the 202 community is still strong!
How is everyone?

[dokotela]

Hey Naushad, has is really been that long!!. With that many cars how do you find the time man, you need kids xD

know that feeling well,I'm always wondering if I will make the big jump to the newer models!,I do fancy the w205 twin turbo somewhat ;)

if you like to tinker than the 201/202's are great!, but I still prefer working on the 202 over the 201 its much friendlier^^

yes paul it has been far too long. the 201 and 202 are great cars from a great era. cannot get enough of them. i will post some pictures shortly. do you have the part number for the tray that replaces the ash tray?

[dokotela]

I'm still around, just not on here much. Too much going on and just not enough time. Unfortunately my Turbo 202 project has been parked in my garage for a few years now. Need to get a lot of things sorted out on it.
Been contemplating finding a C43 and doing the 5.5 swap. But we will see. If I can find a clean one, the Turbo project will be parted out.

Good to see the 202 community is still strong!
How is everyone?

ross old buddy old pal. how the hell are you? you have been pickling that car for far too long brother.

[Pagz]

Hey Ross!! Good thanks man. What's left on the turbo setup to complete?, looking back now there's no way I could redo how much effort went into that setup, life gets busy once kids arrive!!

[Pagz]

Yes please pics Naushad ;)

00 "Glove compartment" A202 680 06 91 with carpet A202 680 05 68.
<99 is A202 680 05 91 with carpet A202 680 03 68.

You'll also want the 12v socket - A210 820 09 51

[SLAMMED_C]

ross old buddy old pal. how the hell are you? you have been pickling that car for far too long brother.
I'm doing well Naushad. How are you? Buy any more w202's or w201's?!
Life is too busy. I have a second kid now so time is of the escence! Not much time for modding cars at the moment. Hopefully in the spring and summer I can get back to the w210 and maybe the w202.
The Turbo C has definitely been pickled far too long.

[SLAMMED_C]

Hey Ross!! Good thanks man. What's left on the turbo setup to complete?, looking back now there's no way I could redo how much effort went into that setup, life gets busy once kids arrive!!

Paul brother! How's my favorite kiwi?!
You got kids now?
Well, I need a different boost controller. The one I have is far too complicated.
I either need a stand alone or a good tune on my stock Ecu.
The body on my 202 has seen better days. Too much rust to fix so I'm either looking for a good condition c230k as a donor body, or a c43 and just swap in the 5.5.
That's all I need to do! Well after that it needs an emission test so I can renew my license sticker and drive it.
We will see!

[dokotela]

I'm doing well Naushad. How are you? Buy any more w202's or w201's?!
Life is too busy. I have a second kid now so time is of the escence! Not much time for modding cars at the moment. Hopefully in the spring and summer I can get back to the w210 and maybe the w202.
The Turbo C has definitely been pickled far too long.

I've been keeping as well as can be Ross. Hopefully the turbo 202 will be done very very soon. Then it's onto the 2.5 16 201 with the itb setup. Most parts are in. Then to finish the 201 2.3 16 turbo and finally the 201 amg. Haven't driven my c23k in a while.I know how it is not to drive your car.
Good luck with your search brother

[Pagz]

Ross!, Yeah man we have an awsome little gurl now she's 16 months and shouldn't be too far of the second, you don't know just how much free time you have until you they arrive(as you would know by now huh ;) )
I guess If you need to go as far as a new body maybe C43 is the way forward!!?. if you needed to sell the turbo gear it shouldn't be hard, I've had plenty of people ask where they can get such a setup for the 202 in the past few years!

[SLAMMED_C]

I've been keeping as well as can be Ross. Hopefully the turbo 202 will be done very very soon. Then it's onto the 2.5 16 201 with the itb setup. Most parts are in. Then to finish the 201 2.3 16 turbo and finally the 201 amg. Haven't driven my c23k in a while.I know how it is not to drive your car.
Good luck with your search brother

Good to hear Naushad.
You are a busy man with so many builds!
ITB? Wow, nice! What the throttle bodies come off of? Custom intake manifold for everything to fit into?
Sounds like some amazing projects.
It sucks I haven't driven my Turbo C in so long, I do miss it. But too many other things to do. It just has to sit on the back burner for now.



Ross!, Yeah man we have an awsome little gurl now she's 16 months and shouldn't be too far of the second, you don't know just how much free time you have until you they arrive(as you would know by now huh ;) )
I guess If you need to go as far as a new body maybe C43 is the way forward!!?. if you needed to sell the turbo gear it shouldn't be hard, I've had plenty of people ask where they can get such a setup for the 202 in the past few years!
Congrats brother! Wifey pregnant already or you working on it? It's amazing how much life changes when you have kids! They are great and all, but sometimes you want a moment of peace!
Oh and I know all about the lack of free time! It gets better as they get older. Your free time comes back very slowly. But you do get some.
2 kids are a game changer! My oldest is 4 years, and the new one is a month old now.
You should wait a bit longer. Let you daughter get a little older so that when you have the second one she can help you guys out! 3-4 years is a good gap between kids.
I'm still on the fence. A part of me really wants the C43, and a part of me really wants to keep the Turbo. So I'm very torn.
I hope there is no problem to sell the Turbo set up if it comes to that. I'd want it to go to someone that appreciates the time and effort you put into it and I put into it (more so you!).

[Pagz]

"The only problem I have found with the entire clk55 swap is the rear windows not being recognised by the EIS, I think the only way around this will be to make the CLK55's ECU virgin again ,use the C43's EIS and recode the clk55 ECU with C43 VIN and let them get married... we will see ;)"


Guys, just wanted to tidy this loose end up. the fix for my rear windows was to install EIS/ECM/ESL from a 00 C43, and then code it to CLK55 ;)

[Pagz]

Good to hear Naushad.
You are a busy man with so many builds!
ITB? Wow, nice! What the throttle bodies come off of? Custom intake manifold for everything to fit into?
Sounds like some amazing projects.
It sucks I haven't driven my Turbo C in so long, I do miss it. But too many other things to do. It just has to sit on the back burner for now.



Congrats brother! Wifey pregnant already or you working on it? It's amazing how much life changes when you have kids! They are great and all, but sometimes you want a moment of peace!
Oh and I know all about the lack of free time! It gets better as they get older. Your free time comes back very slowly. But you do get some.
2 kids are a game changer! My oldest is 4 years, and the new one is a month old now.
You should wait a bit longer. Let you daughter get a little older so that when you have the second one she can help you guys out! 3-4 years is a good gap between kids.
I'm still on the fence. A part of me really wants the C43, and a part of me really wants to keep the Turbo. So I'm very torn.
I hope there is no problem to sell the Turbo set up if it comes to that. I'd want it to go to someone that appreciates the time and effort you put into it and I put into it (more so you!).

Not sure how I missed your response Ross!! Fully agree with everything you said haha. We are looking to a second now but your right its a game changer.;) Hope all is well with yours now,your youngest will be 9 months hope your getting some sleep xD

I'm ok if you have to sell the turbo gear, just make sure they know how much went into those bits haha. having a family now I think custom days are limited you'd want to jump in a C43 and cruise!! ;)

take it easy man

[BlownC43]

wow

[dokotela]

Not sure how I missed your response Ross!! Fully agree with everything you said haha. We are looking to a second now but your right its a game changer.;) Hope all is well with yours now,your youngest will be 9 months hope your getting some sleep xD

I'm ok if you have to sell the turbo gear, just make sure they know how much went into those bits haha. having a family now I think custom days are limited you'd want to jump in a C43 and cruise!! ;)

take it easy man

and the time flies by...and the time warp continues