W202 Lowering help!

[Benjamin w202]

So, i have put on some et35 offset 18" AMG 225/40/18 Front + Rear wheels , i but recently decided the car needs to be lower and i am kind of a Noob when it comes to Lowering cars.
My main questions are as follows ,
-Is it just as simple as throwing in some new lowering springs.
-Are there any further modifications i should be aware of.
-Will the et35 offset 225/40/18s fit if i throw in some Eibach sport line springs.
-I have heard around that the spring pads need to be changed / can make a dramatic difference True or False?
Help will be greatly appreciated ! :D

[vaspen]

its a benz stock springs are soft but not bouncy :) so a set of performance springs make a big diff
as far as installation if you value your life I would have a mechanic do it because these springs hold the weight of a car..
unless you feel comfortable and have all the tools I took mine out with just a car lift floor jack 4ft piece o wood hammer and a strap lol I live dangerously nah I had a link that broke on all 4 so mine was easy
BUT USE A SPRING COMPRESSOR !!!!!!
oh also if yours has a spring and separate shock c230k iknow for one .. set up its easy peazy but a coilover is a bit dificult

[kowalski]

if you drop your car on shorter springs you will also need shorter sports style shox for best performance, otherwise you will screw up your original shox fast when fitting lowering springs.
lowering springs and factory shox is a bad combo for a sporty driven car
look for koni yellow or bilstein sports shox, i use koni yellow shox which are great

you might consider adjustable camber arms for correct tire wear, inner side walls wear out fast on new tires
do a 4 wheel alignment after you had done the swap for even tire wear

wrong wheel ET and wrong spring pads might give you rubbing issues if you load your car heavily with cargo and passengers

[vaspen]

yea he tells truth I have cut 2 coils off and have stock shocks and I do need to replace them but the car still rids pretty norm its just lower but my shocks squeak when its bumpy sometimes
if its a 2000 230k sport you will be fine with a 2 coil cut just get new shocks
I also kept the overall tire size the same for my rims and aside from these wheel sitting out farther and wider I only had to pull my fron fender slightly and I did that by hand
3 body tugs by the sport badge and 3 by the front bumper on the fenders
gives the car a wider meaner look also only rub when fully loaded while going over bumps turning

[wichipong]

since youre messing with the suspension, change both shocks and springs at the same time... you also might want to purchase a camber kit... you would need it... then after everything has been installed, get it aligned. then enjoy the ride.

[Benjamin w202]

i have been looking around for a w202 camber kit and the only one i can find is $200 for rear camber arms is this a normal price or can you get them somewhere else for cheaper?

[Benjamin w202]

(Update) I just found out that the offset of my wheels is 35 is that too much for lowering?

[kowalski]

ET35 is great

[Benjamin w202]

ET35 is great

Ok that's good , also the inside of the rim is very close to touching a part steering knuckle near the upper ball joint , should I be worried about this if lowering?

[wichipong]

Ok that's good , also the inside of the rim is very close to touching a part steering knuckle near the upper ball joint , should I be worried about this if lowering?

how wide are the wheels?

[Benjamin w202]

how wide are the wheels?

8 1/2 front and back

[kowalski]

8 1/2 front and back

no prob Bob for you with 8½ front and rear, you should be fine

my brabuses are 8½ front and 9½ rear

[Benjamin w202]

no prob Bob for you with 8½ front and rear, you should be fine

my brabuses are 8½ front and 9½ rear

What kind of suspension setup do you have?

[wichipong]

8.5 wheels should be fine... i have 8.5 wide carlssons et 35 spaced out 15mm to bring final offset at et20 and i dont have any issues

[kowalski]

What kind of suspension setup do you have?

vogtland springs and koni yellow shox= an awesome combination

[Benjamin w202]

vogtland springs and koni yellow shox= an awesome combination
yeah i am considering that combo with #1 pads allround :D .

What pads are you running on each corner?

[kowalski]

yeah i am considering that combo with #1 pads allround :D .

What pads are you running on each corner?

g'day mate

i have #1 front and #4 rear, stance looks great.
i might switch to #3 in the rear in the near future?

please check out my car, pics were taken after my mechanic had dropped her to the ground with vogtland springs

[kowalski]

here are some b4 pics with factory springs

[Benjamin w202]

g'day mate

i have #1 front and #4 rear, stance looks great.
i might switch to #3 in the rear in the near future?

please check out my car, pics were taken after my mechanic had dropped her to the ground with vogtland springs
Wooow that's nice , is that a c43? Over here in aus there are only limited numbers of AMG 202's so there so expensive :(

[kowalski]

Wooow that's nice , is that a c43? Over here in aus there are only limited numbers of AMG 202's so there so expensive :(

thanx mate, she's a real beaut.
yes it's a c43
some of these w202 cars are more than 15 years old today, are they still expensive to buy down under?
mine's a 1999

[Benjamin w202]

thanx mate, she's a real beaut.
yes it's a c43
some of these w202 cars are more than 15 years old today, are they still expensive to buy down under?
mine's a 1999

Well for example a 1998 model with around 150k Miles and very few factory options will run you around 20k AUD (14k Euro)

[kowalski]

Well for example a 1998 model with around 150k Miles and very few factory options will run you around 20k AUD (14k Euro)

you can compare pricetags for c43 amg from this german automobile site
http://suchen.mobile.de/auto/mercedes-benz-c-43-amg.html?isSearchRequest=true&lang=en&scopeId=C&export=ALSO_EXPORT&damageUnrepaired=ALSO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&sortOption.sortBy=searchNetGrossPrice&makeModelVariant1.makeId=17200&makeModelVariant1.modelId=30

[Benjamin w202]

WOW so much cheaper than here , kinda wants to make me import one in haha:)

[kowalski]

do you have rustbucket mercs in australia?
w202 rusts less than w210
many european cars suffered from rust within couple of years from new

[Benjamin w202]

do you have rustbucket mercs in australia?
w202 rusts less than w210
many european cars suffered from rust within couple of years from new

Generally the rust isn't too bad here it's only common with mercs that have been improperly taken care of or stored improperly :/ which is sad to say

[Vetruck]

I have LM6 Replicas 8.5x18 fronts and 9.5x18 rears. The offset is 30mm and they barely fit inside the front wheelwell under suspension travel with 215-40-18's up front. I personally think the 225's will rub. moving these wheels in or out 5mm would rub also, 30 mm is the target. I run 245-35-18 rears to match the front diameters.

I bumped the suspension in full travel without the spring sin the car to check clearances and 20mm offset on my car would make the outer edge of my tires slam into the fender when under full suspension travel.

I have also done something a little different then most. I have a lighter weight m111 (4cyl) car that is about 200lbs lighter on the nose then the inline 6 cars. With that said, and the notorious body roll and canter these cars suffer from in cornering, I opted to use a stiffer front spring setup that will keep the roll axis (rear roll center lower in proportion to the front roll center) more level under both static and exspecially dynamic movement of the suspension. what does this mean? the nose does not dive under hard braking corner entrance, the cars front roll center stays higher in proportion to the rear via the lighter weight and stiffer front springs- thus less canter of the inside rear chassis lifting high into the air and rolling over onto the outside front tire upon a more aggressively inclined roll axis.

I did this by using H&R sport springs for the heavier 6cyl car onto my lighter 4cyl car. I then used #1 spring pads that I already had on the car oem. This gave me just a little more fender gap on the fronts then the rears, but I was also shooting for a certain ride height for best camber gain and articulation of about 25.5-26" fender arch lip off ground.

I then used H&R sway bars- but since I used a stiffer front spring, I used the softer 26mm front bar rather then the larger 28mm bar. The rear is one choice 18mm. This took the slight push (understeer)out of the car and it rotates very well under hard braking going into corners. the front does not ground out or contact the tires in steering. I run a -0.4 static front camber that gains into -2.5 with 1.5" travel via the used of KMAC front bushings I set a massive 7.8/8.2 caster which helps this dynamic gain at 15* steer.

You guys with the 6cyl cars can try this using the supersport springs for the V8 car and fine tune it with spring pads...or even cut the springs a little if needed.

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[AMG KC]

Well for example a 1998 model with around 150k Miles and very few factory options will run you around 20k AUD (14k Euro)

Not quite... Maybe Klms, not miles...

I paid $23,000 for my 99C43 with 109,600klmsin Feb.