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speedybenz
05-29-2003, 09:53 PM
Tonight I machined a set of Delrin bushings for the outer front roll bar bushings.

Delrin is a very hard, self lubricating material, sort of like nylon. There is no deflection with this material, unlike the rubber stock bushing.

With the new Delrin bushings in-place it really made that front roll bar work. The car now reacts much quicker and is flatter through fast corners.

It gives you more confidence to push the car through a corner harder due to the better feedback through the chassis.

Much cheaper than buying a new front roll bar.

Jeff
714guy
05-29-2003, 10:36 PM
can you make a few extra and sell them to members on the forum??

thanks

jason
nokia8860
05-30-2003, 06:10 AM
Jeff,

you need to me in monster garage!
714guy
05-30-2003, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by nokia8860
Jeff,

you need to me in monster garage!

CORRECTION: He need to be in my garage!!!!:D :D :D :D
speedybenz
05-30-2003, 01:55 PM
I will try to make a couple of extra sets this weekend. I am curious to what some of you will feel.

Jeff
J Irwan
05-30-2003, 08:15 PM
Jeff

Are you talking about the front sway bar bushing..??

Is this delrin material harder/stiffer than poly-urethane..

sounds like a good mod, I am all ear..

Off course I'll be happy to do a review on it (that if you would make me a set for front and rear :p)


Regardz,

J Irwan
speedybenz
05-31-2003, 07:58 PM
"OK" so I have 2 sets of front Delrin bushings that I would like to give out minus a $10 donation to cover shipping and material costs.

They will fit on W202 cars that use the "sport" sized front roll bar which includes C230's, C280's, C43's and maybe others.

The I.D. is 0.705".

J. Irwan if your C36 has this size front bar, I will send you one of the sets.

And yes Delrin is very hard, sort of like Aluminum hard, but it is a plastic like material. Maybe more like a Bowling Ball type hardness.

Jeff
nokia8860
05-31-2003, 08:06 PM
If you will, I will install a set on my 280 sport.
speedybenz
05-31-2003, 08:20 PM
One set gone to Nokia8860.

Just send me your address so I can send them out on Monday.

Jeff
J Irwan
05-31-2003, 08:27 PM
Jeff

I belive the C36 has the same sway bar thinkness as C43's..


I will send you email with my address. ;)



Regardz,

J Irwan
nokia8860
05-31-2003, 08:27 PM
email sent.

im sure j and i will both let you know what changes we feel after install :)
speedybenz
06-01-2003, 10:50 AM
Great, I will send out the Bushings on Monday.

I leave the outside diameter a little larger than the stock bushings so that they are clamped to the mounts very secure.

So when you put them on you will have to turn the nuts a little harder than usual but it will be just fine.

You will also need just a little grease to put on the inside of the bushing. This is needed so that the roll bar end can move smoothly through the bushing as the suspension moves up and down.

Jeff
MBATF
06-01-2003, 11:01 AM
Can i get a set too? i will pay!
pnsji
06-01-2003, 11:34 AM
Jeff,

Is it the bushing where the left side of where E points to?
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwCpBKAXqJtfz5kYscXcztqIQXwKDIaqIfWF8ZSIdp3GjX3EM 2qTQcFSN7TkkhBsdcXw!ImQJ8QrNaMIBFZOXpGQbKFRiVlNnS0 awExk6DcuO2hlZNv47Q/front-suspension.jpg?dc=4675424367175374431
speedybenz
06-01-2003, 04:58 PM
Yes, it is the bushing just to the left of E shown in the photo.

Jeff
pnsji
06-01-2003, 05:17 PM
so by changing that only improve the handling of the car?
Can I have one as well? How much do you think it will cost?
Denlasoul
06-01-2003, 08:05 PM
Looks like I'm late on this one. :( If you happen to make more or plan on making some for the masses, I'd be in for a set.

DLS
speedybenz
06-01-2003, 09:20 PM
Yes, I will make more sets after I get the feedback from Nokia and J Irwan.

I don't want to produce a bunch of parts unless others also think there is improvement in their cars handling.

So hopefully the feedback is good and then I will make several sets in the next few weeks.

Jeff
Denlasoul
06-01-2003, 09:23 PM
Awesome. Did you get you brakes yet?
pnsji
06-01-2003, 10:23 PM
hehehe good work jeff!

Me and AJ should schedule a visit to you man!
:D
714guy
06-01-2003, 10:43 PM
Will they fit the a non-sport car??
MBATF
06-02-2003, 12:07 AM
pnsji hehehe good work jeff!Me and AJ should schedule a visit to you man!

Count me in!
Renn 208
06-02-2003, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by MBATF
Count me in!

As soon as I have a free weekend, I'm all over it.
Denlasoul
11-20-2004, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by pnsji
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwCpBKAXqJtfz5kYscXcztqIQXwKDIaqIfWF8ZSIdp3GjX3EM 2qTQcFSN7TkkhBsdcXw!ImQJ8QrNaMIBFZOXpGQbKFRiVlNnS0 awExk6DcuO2hlZNv47Q/front-suspension.jpg?dc=4675424367175374431

What is letter C called? Will it make it easier for me to remove my shock if C is unbolted?

Thanks!
J Irwan
11-21-2004, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Denlasoul
What is letter C called? Will it make it easier for me to remove my shock if C is unbolted?

Thanks!


C == Steering knuckle.


For changing the shock you don't need to undo this..


But for changing the spring one of the methods will required disconnection of this steering knuckle..


Regardz,
Denlasoul
11-21-2004, 11:19 AM
Thanks J, helps alot. Also could you look over an older post that I resurrected? It's MBATF's post about Koni D.
SLAMMED_C
11-21-2004, 07:06 PM
Im interested in a set of these outer bushing Jeff... I have the Eibach front and rear sway bar kit for my W202, but they only give you poly inner bushings, what about the outers??!!!
have you thought about making a set of inners in this Delrin material also?
Id be interested in a set of front outers if they fit on my Eibach bars?