View Full Version : Difference in tire sizes to throw off cruise control?
Denlasoul
06-21-2004, 11:17 AM
Hello all-
I was curious as to how much of an incorrect tire size difference it takes to throw off the cruise control?
for example: 225/40/18 and 245/40/18
MrSpace
06-21-2004, 11:24 AM
throw off??
I use my cruise control and went from the original rims+caps to 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 and my cruise still works.
Wltough I need to check with my friend is my speedo is correct, I'm pretty sure it writes a little less than what I'm actually going.
Etienne
I use 225/35/19 & 245/35/19 and cruise control still working good...
Denlasoul
06-21-2004, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by edub
I use 225/35/19 & 245/35/19 and cruise control still working good...
225*.35 = 78.75
245*.35 = 85.75
So, about a 7mm difference in diameter. Must be within the threshold of limitations.
What I mean by "throw off" is that with incorrect sizing of tires, there seems to be a tendency of cruise control not working.
In edub's case, I can only conclude that his tire sizes do not have a large enough variance to throw off or not have the cruise control working.
I am running 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 and have no problems whatsover. I am looking into other tire sizes and was curious as to how much of a variance I can get away with.
Is there anyone who's cruise control is not working possibly due to a change in tire size?
Rocky
06-21-2004, 12:36 PM
I had the stock 225-45-17 on front and 245-40-17 in back on my C36. I had toyos in the front and michilins in the back and that threw off my cruise control. Took the dealer 3 days to figure that one out. They swapped it witht he wheel in tired from a C43 in the showroom and it the cruise worked. A week later I put on my snow tires, 4 X AMD Mono II's with same tires, 225-45-17 all around and ther cruise worked.
This only afftected my cruise control speed above 120km/hr.
I got a feeling it calculates all four tires for a certain tolerance.
98_Benzo
06-21-2004, 12:50 PM
I just got my new rear tires this weekend and I put the cruise control on and it worked perfect. I will try again when I get my new front tires. My original tire sizes were 245/45-17 all around.
I just ordered my new tires:
255/40 - 17 (Front)
275/40 - 17 (rear)
After seeing my new rear tires, I think I am going to go a little bigger (305/35 - 18), they just don't look big enough.:D That should throw my cruise control off then.
MrSpace
06-21-2004, 02:25 PM
305x18
you are NUTS
;)
Etinene
joesc280
06-21-2004, 07:35 PM
i have 215/35 in front and had 265/35 out back.....it didn't go into cruise control at all....i recently switched to 255/35 now it will work to speeds up to like 60mph...after that it will not work...and actually after i hit 60mph it will not work again for speeds under that until i restart the car...its almost as if it triggers a failsafe or something and shuts it down...?
nokia8860
06-21-2004, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by 98_Benzo
255/40 - 17 (Front)
275/40 - 17 (rear)
OH MY!
This works huh? How does the front clear? I know from reading speedybenz's post that he has to widen his front fenders. What did you do to make it fit.
Thats crazy!!!
Denlasoul
06-21-2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by nokia8860
OH MY!
This works huh? How does the front clear? I know from reading speedybenz's post that he has to widen his front fenders. What did you do to make it fit.
Thats crazy!!!
Nokia-
It's for his Mustang, remember. He got rid of the 202.
nokia8860
06-22-2004, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by Denlasoul
Nokia-
It's for his Mustang, remember. He got rid of the 202.
check out bboy jeff's post in the RS thread.....
Denlasoul
06-22-2004, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by nokia8860
check out bboy jeff's post in the RS thread.....
Hubba hubba. That's fat! Let's see some pics Jeff. :)
98_Benzo
06-22-2004, 09:02 AM
RS thread????? I will post some pics of my 275's, when I get some.
nokia8860
06-22-2004, 09:28 AM
RS Thread (http://www.club202.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4155)
98_Benzo
06-22-2004, 10:42 AM
wow, I didn't realize those would fit....but, I guess after a little modification to wheel wells, anything will fit. That should look sweet!!! I wanna see pics....
98c43amg
06-23-2004, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Denlasoul
Hello all-
I was curious as to how much of an incorrect tire size difference it takes to throw off the cruise control?
for example: 225/40/18 and 245/40/18
Mine's working 100% with wheels & tires upsized by one.
The defacto tool to determine the % difference in this regard IMO is:
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Enter your stock size & new size, and it'll give you all the differences. Newer MBs take the speedo signal off the front tires I believe, so that's new size that matters for speedo differences, and if you set it to 55mph [ya, right :) ], by what percent it will be fast or slow.
So what you're saying is you've heard of situations where the difference between the speed the car determines that it is going -- based on the front tire's size -- is so different then the RPM the engine is turning in a gear -- based on revolutions of the rear wheel affected by the size of the rear tires -- that it stops the cruise control from working? ...that's a first for me.
My cruise conrtol did stop working once, but that was an electronic/water problem I believe.
Denlasoul
06-23-2004, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by 98c43amg
So what you're saying is you've heard of situations where the difference between the speed the car determines that it is going -- based on the front tire's size -- is so different then the RPM the engine is turning in a gear -- based on revolutions of the rear wheel affected by the size of the rear tires -- that it stops the cruise control from working? ...that's a first for me.
I'm not too sure if that is the correct cause of it, but I have heard on many occasions that members have had cruise problems and the common denominator happened to be funky tire sizes. For example, running a wider tire in the rear while keeping the same series.
I stepped up my wheels to 18's and am running 225/40 and 255/35. The difference here is very very very minimal. No problems for me whatsoever.
I am interested in going wider in back (I like the front sizing) but do not want to vary the difference so much that it can cause cruise problems.
So, I want to know what kind of variance I can get away with without sacrificing cruise.
I really like to cruise at 90-100. :)
98c43amg
06-23-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Denlasoul
I really like to cruise at 90-100. :)
err, where? [!] Assuming you can do that w/o hassle, I want to come visit.
:D
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