Diff gasket replacement and LSD upgrade

[Andrew C280]

who makes a Limited Slip Diff for my W202 i have to eventually replace the diff gaskets there leaking slowly, so when my mechanic has it appart i would like to get a LSD, i thought my car had it until i did a one wheeled burnout how stupid is that, i figured this would be standard dose the C43 come with a LSD

[SLAMMED_C]

nope.. no benzs have LDS's.. basically due to the traction control.. cant have an LSD and traction control.. doesnt work!!
Im not sure that anyone makes LSD's for the W202's as a production item.. maybe find one out of a w202 DTM car!!

but there is one thing that oyu can do to make your car like an LSD.. but it means welding some gears in your diff so they send power to both wheels equally.
but if your car is equipped with traction control you will have to somehow eliminate the traction control completely.
other than that i dont know.

and with your diff leak.. which seals?? side seals, pinion seal, or rear cover?
the side and pinion selas are actually seals that are hamered in.. the rear cover is a sealant from a tube.. no gasket (paper or rubber)

[Fantasmweb]

if ur car (w202) without ASR or ETS, that mean your car have LSD. In the other hand if your car came with ASR or ETS that mean ur car don't have LSD. i believe 94 and somewhere around 95 don't have ASR and ETS.

[Rocky]

1997 C36 here with no ASR or ETS. Does that mean I have LSD?

[Andrew C280]

do any benz all models come with a LSD what about the new C55 would that have one i would hope

[Renn 208]

I don't know enough to be sure about past AMG vehicles particularly the 202s, but any of the current models from 210, 208 to 230,203 do not come with an LSD. It is an AMG Manufaktur option.

All of the Safety cars have this option.

Also, I don't think it correct that ESP can't be integrated with an LSD. However, AMG could just be turning them off when doing an install and I wouldn't know.

The 65s are kind of wacky, so they may come with some sort of torque biasing diff...but I can't be sure.

[Andrew C280]

cool, something disatifies me that I only really have power to one wheel , going to do some research.

[Fantasmweb]

to rockey...
i believe ur car have LSD due to u don't have ASR. if u want to make sure just put ur car off the ground and turn ur real wheel and see how the right and left real wheel spin.

[Andrew C280]

do a burn out and see if only one wheel spins that how i found out my car dosent have a lsd

[Rocky]

Originally posted by Fantasmweb
to rockey...
i believe ur car have LSD due to u don't have ASR. if u want to make sure just put ur car off the ground and turn ur real wheel and see how the right and left real wheel spin.

they spin in opposite directions i believe.

[Andrew C280]

that sounds like LSD to me

[moebiusgold]

Originally posted by Rocky
they spin in opposite directions i believe.
That means that you don't have LSD. With LSD both tires turn in the same direction.

[Andrew C280]

the easyest way is to burn some rubber serriously you will see right away.

[Fantasmweb]

to rocky
they spin in opposite directions i believe.
yes ur car have LSD if wheel turn opposote direction......;)

[kameraguy]

Originally posted by Fantasmweb
to rocky
they spin in opposite directions i believe.
yes ur car have LSD if wheel turn opposote direction......;)


Originally posted by moebiusgold
That means that you don't have LSD. With LSD both tires turn in the same direction.


:confused:

[jnolte]

LSD both tires turn in the same direction.

[Rocky]

confirmed...got brakes done today, axxiss deluxe pads, and the tires spin in opposite directions

[Fantasmweb]

sorry for that... after i check some info An open diff will spin both tires freely, in opposite directions. With a LSD, the other wheel will be more difficult to spin but spins in the same direction. And about the Open diff here is the line for u
http://www.houseofthud.com/differentials.htm

[c280nz]

Sorry to pop this back to the top but,
I read in here that early c class without asr and esp have a lsd??
myne is a 94 c280 sport without either of these? does this mean it may have a lsd, only one wheel burnouts tho but is this cos diff clutch plates could be worn???? any help

[1998K]

Originally posted by c280nz
Sorry to pop this back to the top but,
I read in here that early c class without asr and esp have a lsd??
myne is a 94 c280 sport without either of these? does this mean it may have a lsd, only one wheel burnouts tho but is this cos diff clutch plates could be worn???? any help

If I'm not wrong it was available as option. It was a sort of electronically controlled slip differential (ASD if I'm not wrong).

May be you can retrofit but probably a lot of work and money are required:(

[98c43amg]

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
nope.. no benzs have LDS's.. basically due to the traction control.. cant have an LSD and traction control.. doesnt work!!
Im not sure that anyone makes LSD's for the W202's as a production item.. maybe find one out of a w202 DTM car!!
:confused:
[soapbox on]
Another lie perpetrated my Mercedes onto all of you, that you all -- strike that ; that some of you -- so sheepishly believe and even repeat as if it were gospil.
[soapbox off]

I'm about to have a Kleemann LSD installed in my C43. You can have AMG themselves install it "aftermarket" in you Benz/AMG if you live in Europe and go to their shop. No doubt a number of people here on the board already have it [the Kleemann]. Speedybenz already had it done in his C43 and could not speak more highly of it to me when I spoke to him last ... not a negative thing to say. One thing he does say is it pretty much eliminated the ESP light from blinking on take-off/turns, especially when roads are wet.... Yet the electronic guardian angels are still there to take the heat off if you get into a turn over your head.

...yes, LSD and traction control do get along. ...oh ya, and you can get it stock in an Audi S/RS or BMW M-class car for many many years now ... which if I'm not mistken [and I know I'm not] all have electronic guardian angels, a.k.a. traction control. ;)

..so what do I mean by all this? The thing Mercedes had been saying all these years about LSD and traction control "not working together" is total Bull Shit / a Lie, and they didn't go down that road for no other reason then cost and how that impacted their bloated profit margin... the same reason you could get so many more options like tilt stearing and other things in BMW 3's but not on the W202.

[c280nz]

I agree with that. and always would have.
A LSD will just put the computer traction control into retirement. as it (LSD) keeps even drive as the power head out of the diff and down the half shafts to the brakes/wheels, it illiminates slipping before it gets to the wheel sensors.
even if you weld ur diff up for solid the computer traction control shouldnt be effected, which is what it looks like im going to have to do once i source another standard diff.
I think what i said is correct, it makes sence to me ;)

[Ashkan's C280]

so i have a 97 without asr or esp, I have lsd????

[misterblack]

to those interested in the Kleemann LSD...here is the link:

http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main/accessories/lsd

according to their website.....Kleemann only has the LSD available for V8 202's.

I contacted them and they informed me they had no unit available for C36 or other model 202......but....to those interested...contact them anyways.....they may have something.....last time I spoke with them was last year.

I would love to do this mod on my 202!

[c280nz]

i need a lsd, theres always ppl interseted if it ant fkn excessively expensive.
i went into a diff place and they said for me to get a lsd it will cost bout 5000 nzd, which is like 3500 usd. and that wod be like a skyline nissan one modified to fit or sumthing,
im very tempted to buy another standard diff and get the welder out and sort it out very tempted ;)