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coolcarlskic43
07-28-2004, 03:08 AM
Would 235-40-18's or 235-45(front) work on my eibach lowered c43?Using monoblocks.I will use 255-35's in the rear.

kameraguy
07-28-2004, 08:29 AM
Not sure about your offset, but I used to have 235/35/19 on my fronts. I have a C36 on H&R sport springs. #1 pads. I didn't rub. But it seems all our cars can be slightly different as far as the inner moldings. And the wheel offset makes a big difference too.

J Irwan
07-28-2004, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
Would 235-40-18's or 235-45(front) work on my eibach lowered c43?Using monoblocks.I will use 255-35's in the rear.



not with 18x8 ET 31 Monoblok.


with 18x8.5 ET 35 wheels is more appropriate with 235/40/18 on W202 application..



Regardz,

coolcarlskic43
07-28-2004, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by J Irwan
not with 18x8 ET 31 Monoblok.


with 18x8.5 ET 35 wheels is more appropriate with 235/40/18 on W202 application..



Regardz, OH Boy!You gotta be kiddin me.So it cant be done huh! I probably need to get rid of these damn things then. they are 18x 8's fr.18x9 rear.Would a spacer wrk?

coolcarlskic43
07-28-2004, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by J Irwan
not with 18x8 ET 31 Monoblok.


with 18x8.5 ET 35 wheels is more appropriate with 235/40/18 on W202 application..



Regardz, Talk to me man! Would using spacers allow me to use 235's on my car with these 18x8 inch mono's?

Paul
07-28-2004, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
Talk to me man! Would using spacers allow me to use 235's on my car with these 18x8 inch mono's?

Im pretty sure spacers are going in the wrong direction dude,
you end up with less offset , you'l possibly need to have them
machined(by 4mm)which might not be safe depending on
the thickness where the stud goes through.

Paul
07-28-2004, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Paul
Im pretty sure spacers are going in the wrong direction dude,
you end up with less offset , you'l possibly need to have them
machined(by 4mm)which might not be safe depending on
the thickness where the stud goes through.

... and theres the issue of brake clearance

coolcarlskic43
07-28-2004, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Paul
Im pretty sure spacers are going in the wrong direction dude,
you end up with less offset , you'l possibly need to have them
machined(by 4mm)which might not be safe depending on
the thickness where the stud goes through. Spacers would be pushing the rims away from the hub creating more offset..How would spacers be creating less offset?

coolcarlskic43
07-28-2004, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Paul
... and theres the issue of brake clearance Thats why spacers would be needed(for brake clearance) and also to help keep the wheels from hopefully not hitting the inner plastic shields.

J Irwan
07-28-2004, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
Thats why spacers would be needed(for brake clearance) and also to help keep the wheels from hopefully not hitting the inner plastic shields.



The Stock C43 brake should fit Monoblok 18x8 ET31 just fine.

NO spacer needed..!!

Please do some search, about wheel fitment. There are a lot of us with C43 and C36 with AMG Monoblok II 18x8 ET 31/18x9 ET 35.

Even CLK55 (W208) and E55 (W210), which has the exact same physical front brake with C43 fit these Monoblok II 18x8ET31 with no spacer..

FYI: The C36 brake actually requires more clearance (requires more wheel back-spacing) compare to C43/CLK55-W208/E55-W210 brake.


My concern with this specific wheels (18x8 ET31) is the tire rubbing on the fender if you're using anything bigger than 225/40/18.
How bad is going to rub..?? , It'll depend on how low the car is going to be lowered.


Please don't confuse the other with other non-relevant item..
The issue is the tire fitment (fender clerance) not the wheel fitment (brake clearance) on this case.


PS: I was going to show you some pic of my front wheel of how much gap/clearance I have with my current suspension setup, but the hositng site is been down for the last couple hours.


Hope this helps ;)


Regardz,

J Irwan
07-28-2004, 09:28 PM
Here is a picture of my front wheel.

Monoblok II 18x8 ET 31mm with 225/40/18 PZero Nero

http://www.onfinite.three10.com/libraries/28745/53d.jpg

As you can see with my current setup there is not much room to play with...(since you have to account the room when the suspension is compressed (to compensate the room for the tires when it gets tucked in into the fender))

Below is the picture of my wheels setup from the cross-sectional view.

The one on the left is 18x8 ET31 with 225/40/18 PZero Nero.

The one on the right (facing up on the ground) is 18x9 Et35 with 255/35/18 PZero Nero.

http://www.onfinite.three10.com/libraries/28744/53d.jpg



Now looks at the pic below.

My car with the same suspension setup running 18x8.5 ET35mm with 235/40/18 Falken Azenis.

http://www.onfinite.three10.com/libraries/7819/a82.jpg



The setup on my car of 18x8.5 ET35 with 235/40/18 Falken tire seems to have a little bit more clearance if you look at it closely.

And keep in mind the different brand of tires will attribute to the fender clearance as different brand might have different sidewall and shoulder shape (some is more rounded, some is more square, and some brand has thicker sidewall with rim protection ring, and some has no rim protection ring).

So other than the size the tires brand and model could make a different (and become criticall in getting the right fitment) especially if you have to deal with lowered car.


Hope this helps.

Regardz.

Paul
07-28-2004, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
Thats why spacers would be needed(for brake clearance) and also to help keep the wheels from hopefully not hitting the inner plastic shields.

Sorry dude,didnt know you were refering to the "inner plastic".
somebody please correct me if im wrong,but if you add spacers,you create less of an offset because the centre part of the wheel(where it makes contact with the hub)will be closer
to the actual "centre" of the wheel!!,Try "tirerack"they explain it well with drawings.

Paul
07-28-2004, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Paul
,
you'l possibly need to have them
machined(by 4mm)which might not be safe depending on
the thickness where the stud goes through.

ok i was way of topic,I had the impression you would have to increase offset to avoid the rubbing on you tires.

coolcarlskic43
07-29-2004, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by J Irwan
Here is a picture of my front wheel.

Monoblok II 18x8 ET 31mm with 225/40/18 PZero Nero

http://www.onfinite.three10.com/libraries/28745/53d.jpg

As you can see with my current setup there is not much room to play with...(since you have to account the room when the suspension is compressed (to compensate the room for the tires when it gets tucked in into the fender))

Below is the picture of my wheels setup from the cross-sectional view.

The one on the left is 18x8 ET31 with 225/40/18 PZero Nero.

The one on the right (facing up on the ground) is 18x9 Et35 with 255/35/18 PZero Nero.

http://www.onfinite.three10.com/libraries/28744/53d.jpg



Now looks at the pic below.

My car with the same suspension setup running 18x8.5 ET35mm with 235/40/18 Falken Azenis.

http://www.onfinite.three10.com/libraries/7819/a82.jpg



The setup on my car of 18x8.5 ET35 with 235/40/18 Falken tire seems to have a little bit more clearance if you look at it closely.

And keep in mind the different brand of tires will attribute to the fender clearance as different brand might have different sidewall and shoulder shape (some is more rounded, some is more square, and some brand has thicker sidewall with rim protection ring, and some has no rim protection ring).

So other than the size the tires brand and model could make a different (and become criticall in getting the right fitment) especially if you have to deal with lowered car.


Hope this helps.

Regardz. Looks sweet! I was looking into the same exact Pirelli Nero's. Now! If I use the Falkens in 235's on the monblocks ET 31 front,do you think I'd have an issue?

I also plan on using the eibach prokit and if need be use #4 spring pads up front.


Finally,yes I'm completely aware that the wheel fitment was not going to be an issue,I mentioned the spacers because I was thinking that maybe it would assist with the 235 tire fitment.


Your pictures though speak a thousand wrds.I appreciate it. I also dont want as low a drop so if you I should and could use the falkens(235) on the front do you think I'd have rubbing issues?I'd use those oon the back as well.