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[C280Sportster]

http://search.ebay.com/mercedes-engine_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQfromZR10QQsotrZ2 QQcoactionZcompareQQcopagenumZ1QQcoentrypageZsearc h

For you C220 types there is a C230k engine on ebay for $1000 w/26k on it.

Most of the engines are overpriced. A C43 'buy it now' for $4500? No way. How about $2000?

Take a look.

[Paul]

man what a mess,notice some of the pullys arn,t striaght,pressure
side of the SC has been hacked off!!,the car had to have had a pretty good front on!!,you would need alot more parts!!way less hassel to trade up to a 230k.;)

[Andrew C280]

nice C43 engine for sale for a good price its tempting me right now

[neema12]

If you got it, how would you install it?

[Andrew C280]

that's the easy part, im a mechanic, its a bolt in check the w202 models C43

[Denlasoul]

Originally posted by C280Sportster
Most of the engines are overpriced. A C43 'buy it now' for $4500? No way. How about $2000?

That's so cheap! I was quoted the other day for a 5.5L AMG engine, $14,500~ish

I'd jump on that C43 engine in a heartbeat.

[neema12]

Even if you get an engine for $2000, or say $4000, what else would you need. Pumps, hoses, radiator, ect.? Plus find someone who will install it??? What would I be looking at for the final cost if I got this c43 engine for say $4k. Thx

[omegabenz]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7922564401

When there was 10 seconds left, the auction was ended at bidding of 3500 dollars. That seems kind of odd to me, I was like wtf.

[Ashkan's C280]

so you really can put a c43 engine in a c280?, they are the same size and everything? what about an e55 amg engine would that work?

[Denlasoul]

Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
so you really can put a c43 engine in a c280?, they are the same size and everything? what about an e55 amg engine would that work?

Yes, a C43 engine will fit, and an E55 engine is basically the same block as the 4.3, so it will fit too.

You would need to upgrade your tranny, ECU, brakes, probably some other stuff that I cannot remember right now.

[Ashkan's C280]

would a v12 fit? what would be the biggest engine you could put in a c280 or any c class for that matter?

[Denlasoul]

Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
would a v12 fit? what would be the biggest engine you could put in a c280 or any c class for that matter?

Not too sure about the V12. From what I have seen and heard, the E55 engine bored out to 6.0L is the largest in a C Class.

The W208 CLK55 and W210 E55 are the largest Mercedes engines that are pretty much direct fit into the W202.

[Andrew C280]

it would depend how big the block is it has to fit in the engine compartment the issue with the V12 is the width because it should be the same length as the I6 but most of the Amg 5.5l engines are more powerful than the V12

[Ashkan's C280]

how can a 5.5l like a v8 be more powerful than v12 biturbo? and which is faster the clk engine or the e55 one? and how much are those? well with tranny and that other good stuff hypothetically and who could do this?... hypothetically

[Denlasoul]

Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
and which is faster the clk engine or the e55 one? and how much are those? well with tranny and that other good stuff hypothetically and who could do this?... hypothetically

CLK engine and the E55 engine are one in the same. The E55 is slightly less restrictive because of the exhaust tubing (or something like that) flows better. Either engine on a C class will have the same performance.

I was quoted $15K for a 5.5L AMG engine. You might get lucky and find one elsewhere, but they are kinda hard to come by.

There are a few shops that can do this exchange. If you decide to do it, I'd go with someone who has the experience of doing this type of swap. Too much at stake to let an inexperienced person do it.

[Ashkan's C280]

15k is not bad i heard e55 engine was 40k and then install fuck that but 14k is not bad

[Denlasoul]

15K is alot considering the increase in power is minimal. I guess going from the smaller displacement engines, it would be a significant increase but on my C43 the increase (swap only) would produce less than 50hp. Might as well get a supercharger.

[Ashkan's C280]

what are you talking about e55amg is 469 rwhp c43 is barely 300 and i have 194 in a c280thats about a 169 hp for you and 276 for me

[Denlasoul]

If you look at my previous posts, I was referring to the W208/W210 5.5L AMG engine. The newer Kompressed engines put out the 460+ whatever.

Never heard of anyone doing a swap with those engines. I would think 40K sounds about right then.

PS. The engine you are referring too is not 469wrhp. That would mean 562 crank.

[Ashkan's C280]

my bad not rw but 469hp so can there be a swap with the 211 e55 amg engine? thats the one I was talking about sorry for the confusion

[Ashkan's C280]

yes the new v8 kompressor engine is the one i meant, can there be a swap between those two, an easy one anyway?

[pnsji]

I saw a couple W202 C55 in San Francisco already.

From what I heard, if you have an Inline-6 based engine(like '97 C280), the easiest one would be C36. If you want to do 55, it would be difficult. Wiring is totally different.

If you have C43, the swap to C55 is really easy. Wiring is all the same. About $10G installed.

[Ashkan's C280]

there was a real w202 c55 made it had a v8 but can you do a 211 e55amg

[pnsji]

Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
there was a real w202 c55 made it had a v8 but can you do a 211 e55amg

The two W202 C55 I saw is based on C43, and then the swap the motor with E55 W210.
I am not sure if you could do W211 E55 because of the wiring.

[Ashkan's C280]

what wiring would be different? would you need a new tranny?

[Denlasoul]

Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
would you need a new tranny?

without a doubt you would need a new tranny. putting 469 to the crank which means about 375 to the wheels (20% loss). i believe that's too much for for the stock non-AMG tranny. shoot, if I did a conversion like that I wouls definitely do an tranny upgrade.

[Ashkan's C280]

so whats the deal with the wiring?...how is it different and what needs to be changed?

[pnsji]

Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
so whats the deal with the wiring?...how is it different and what needs to be changed?

Looks like you really want to know. Okay I will educate you.
Wiring difference example:
- 1997 car the ignition is very different. You have to hold the key to start the car.
- 1998 car and newer, you touch the key, the engine will start by itself

I asked the guy who installed 55 engine in C43, can he installed slk32 engine in my car. He said it would be very difficult. You need to modify the ignition wiring, the ecu wiring, the ETC in the transmission, etc. etc. In short, it's very difficult.

[Ashkan's C280]

but its very possible right? and once this is done can ESP and ASR be added as well? Well I suppose my big question is how far can you take the w202 in terms of updating it to newer style cars, what is the limit on updates it can do?

[J Irwan]

Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
but its very possible right? and once this is done can ESP and ASR be added as well? Well I suppose my big question is how far can you take the w202 in terms of updating it to newer style cars, what is the limit on updates it can do?



I guess the answer is when $$$$ is no object then sky is the limit.... :p


really...


For one I already looked into every possible way to increase performance and fun factor on my 1997 C36 including.. Renntech 6 spd manual, conversion, higher rear diff ratio, Mossellman TwinTurbo with custom program and standalone engine management, custom Supercharger, etc..etc....

at the end I don't want to commit to such project which as you can see will be involving too much $$$$ , and In my opinion is not worth... (since I won't be keeping my C36 for life ;) )

So I ended up with BPU mod.. ..




Everything is possible when money is no object.. ;)


Regardz,

[Ashkan's C280]

oh I see, yeah I plan on keeping my 280 for at least another 4 years so I want to do something to it for that period, but it will prob be till i'm done with grad school so btw what is a bpu? and can a kompressor be added to an I6? and which would be better turbo or kompressor?

[pnsji]

Everything is possible given the money. I am giving you input on what is do-able within *reasonable* money. Of course If you can spend $25K on your W202 to make it fast, might as well sell your car and then buy C32 W203.

[714guy]

Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
oh I see, yeah I plan on keeping my 280 for at least another 4 years so I want to do something to it for that period, but it will prob be till i'm done with grad school so btw what is a bpu? and can a kompressor be added to an I6? and which would be better turbo or kompressor?

the only thing you can do to an Inline 6 for some extra HPs is ::
1. NOS, cheap and fairly reliable is done right. (>$1000)
2. Turbos - yep two of them, you'll need piping for the exhuast side and intake side, Fueling issues addressed. I am guessing it could be done fo about $3000 ++ depending on parts and hookups.
3. Supercharger in possible, but'll need to design and CNC a mounting bracket for the blower. you'll also need piping and fueling.
4. C36 if you don't already have one.

Anything is possible if you have some DEEP pockets, but not really worth it. Once i get a real job i will do # 2.