Dual Zone Climate Control

[detroit202]

is this possible

can you just plug this in ?

or you think there is lots more to it?

http://i3.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/8e/b0/88_1_b.JPG

[nokia8860]

There is alot more involved than just having the controll unit.

[Tump43]

I am also very interested in the answer to this question. My car has the dual coolant valve to the heater core but only the single zone electronic climate control.

I asked if I could upgrade to dual zone contol at my local Benz dealer and they said it was not possible due to the wiring harness. But what do they know!! They also said it was impossible to install the Comand that MBenzNL installed in 45 minutes.

Perhaps Steve at MBenzNL can let us know if he can retrofit working dual climate control to our single zone 202's.

Thanks,

[1998K]

Originally posted by Tump43
I am also very interested in the answer to this question. My car has the dual coolant valve to the heater core but only the single zone electronic climate control.

I asked if I could upgrade to dual zone contol at my local Benz dealer and they said it was not possible due to the wiring harness. But what do they know!! They also said it was impossible to install the Comand that MBenzNL installed in 45 minutes.

Perhaps Steve at MBenzNL can let us know if he can retrofit working dual climate control to our single zone 202's.

Thanks,

there are a loto of discussion on this, also in other MB forum, also Steve installed the automatic climate control in his "classic" diesel, look to his www-site, but he has confirmed a lot of times that he don't reccomend this work due to possible bad working.

Sorry:(

[Tump43]

1998K --

Thanks for the response. I suppose that one has to have the updated car to be able to use that and other items. This is the same as not being able to retrofit the new manumatic tranny control (left up shift, right down shift) to the older the tranny controls (PNRD4-5,3,2,1) or even to retrofit the DVD based comand to the CD based comand systems. Steve told me he couldn't install a DVD comand in a 202.

[Ashkan's C280]

so if you did have this, what does that mean you can do?

[detroit202]

i already have the digital display automatic climate control just not dual..

is that what is assumed?

[SLAMMED_C]

it is more difficult than you think to install the dual zone climate control head unit.. it may just plug into place.. but you still need to run another harness and a duo valve instead of the mono valve you have in your car, also I would think there is a different heater core and heater box assembly between single and dual zone.

[seanieboy81]

Would this be able to be used in a 99 C230K? I have two knobs on my car to change the temperature for the two sides of the car, but it doesn't seem to be automatic climate control.

[Rocky]

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
it is more difficult than you think to install the dual zone climate control head unit.. it may just plug into place.. but you still need to run another harness and a duo valve instead of the mono valve you have in your car, also I would think there is a different heater core and heater box assembly between single and dual zone.

R.

I think all W202's have duo valves and not monovalves. My car is a duo valve.

[mike c200]

Originally posted by detroit202
is this possible

can you just plug this in ?

or you think there is lots more to it?

http://i3.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/8e/b0/88_1_b.JPG


yes is posseble (I work on that I'm now bissy with the wire harness for it.)
but is a lot off work
look at the clk w208 that model is very simmular to the w202.

things to do to upgrade at yours
display chance
heater hausing chance or modify
wire harness modify
you must know a lot of elektric
you need all diagrams from mercedes

if you can replay all the with yes then good luck
if not forget it

btw or pay me a ticket and you get all parts than I could do it for you :D :D :D
after i fix myne

Greetingz,

Mike

[Tump43]

I'm interested in bringing him to the US to do this. Why don't we see if we can get a number of people interested in this upgrade in the North East, NY, NJ , CT, PA, VT regions and split the cost of his trip?

Let me know.

Thanks,

[Ashkan's C280]

bring him to so cal too!!!!!

[seanieboy81]

Yes, I would be interested in him coming to SoCal. I am in the O.C.

[Ashkan's C280]

i am in oc too kind of well irvine, thats more towards newport, i also live in san bernardino area as well which is close to LA

[seanieboy81]

Yes, I am also in Irvine.

[Ashkan's C280]

anywhere near uci?

[seanieboy81]

in the Oak Creek area

[Ashkan's C280]

i'm sort of new to this area so is that close?

[seanieboy81]

Yes, it is about 7 minutes from UCI.

[djdoughboy]

do you guys go to UCI? I went to school there... i live in sacramento now but i travel down there to visit my friends quite often... id be down to travel down to UCI to get a dual climate control installed... let me know whats up...

[mike c200]

whow so much people who what dual sone klimacontrol :) :)

But I wil do first my instal.
I think I wil do that end this year or at the start next year.

but a few things its not only chance the display
the heater box behind the dash need more valves for left and right. (maby it is possble to mod your but i'm not sure about that at this moment)
if not you wil need a other heater box
for instal that or modify it wil be nessey to remove the complete dash
the gas from the airco musst be removed from the airco system for the instal

http://members.lycos.nl/mbenz/1acfc9e0.jpg
http://members.lycos.nl/mbenz/1b1ed9e0.jpg
http://members.lycos.nl/mbenz/1aed59e0.jpg
some pics from mbenz where the dash is removed

I wil keep you updated about my mod


Mike

[seanieboy81]

Nahh, I don't go to UCI. Just live down here for my job. Lots of tech companies in the Irvine area.

[djdoughboy]

koo

[Ashkan's C280]

i go to uci

[djdoughboy]

thats koo... i liked it there... but i like sac better... where do you live? i lived in woodbridge oaks... and my first year i lived in the dorms... damn... sometimes i miss the food at pippen though... hahaha... pippen food...

[Ashkan's C280]

isengard, i always go to brandy wine...

[djdoughboy]

i went there a couple times... when i lived in the dorms i lived in the FYEP house in Arroyo Vista... and Pippin was the closest for us...

[Ashkan's C280]

man that is so awesome, and well the dual climate thing sounds really sweet I mean if its not too costly get that guy down here so we can all have this....

[djdoughboy]

werd...

[MBenzNL]

besides where everybody goes to study...FORGET ABOUT DUAL CLIMATE CONTROLS.

1) the car is way too small to be able to set extreme temp differences so whatever the difference is set to, is hradly noticeable...this gets even worse with 4way climate controls like in the 211s...makes me really wonder what the engineers at MB have been thinking...

2) there are quite some costs involved with this modifications. The complete heater housing has to be swapped in order to make the dual climate control fully functional.

3) retrofitting this dual climate control in involves taking the complete dash out of the car up to the bare firewall( see pictures Mike posted from my car)...unless you don't have any kind of airconditioning this is definitely NOT worth the hassle.

Besides that I do think it is possinble...the standard 208 comes with a 202 heater housing and thus the 208 dual climate control heater housing parts fit the 202 as well...but all in all it will end up EXPENSIVE and TIMETAKING.

greetingz,