any1 run 19x9.5 et 35 on rear

[tpliquid]

any1 run 19x9.5 et 35 on rear of a c class with 245/35/19

no rubbing.?

[Pagz]

I run 19x9.5 et 40 with 245-35-19 goodyear eagle F1 tires.
the inside of the rim is very close to the chassis.
It would have been better if I had have got et 35 but they didnt make milanos 9.5 with et35!!
so yes the et35 in 19x9.5 should fit just fine ;)

[tpliquid]

soudns good

[jnolte]

i think moebuisgold runs 19x9.5 on his C43 in the rear..

[Pagz]

also if your after a peek at what that size looks like check
"edub's" ride in members gallery,he also runs 19x9.5 et 35 or 40
with 245-35-19 it the rear,and the car is also lowered with
no rubbing(as far as im told)

[mr. gatsbury]

i think you should specify AMG or not. I have a c280 and I'm sure the roll on the AMG is significant. I've seen the question asked dozens of times but I've never really seen a striaght answer. The real question is: Will 19X9.5's fit on a non-AMG with no rubbing at stock hight??? If so, then it can be lowered after the fact for optimum hight without rubbing...

[J Irwan]

Originally posted by mr. gatsbury
i think you should specify AMG or not. I have a c280 and I'm sure the roll on the AMG is significant. I've seen the question asked dozens of times but I've never really seen a striaght answer. The real question is: Will 19X9.5's fit on a non-AMG with no rubbing at stock hight??? If so, then it can be lowered after the fact for optimum hight without rubbing...



this has been asked many time,

as I have mentioned couple of times now about
the differences AMG W202 vs non-AMG W202 in regards to fender lips.

I'll say it again.

AMG W202's both front and rear fender lips has been rolled from the factory.


non-AMG W202's only the rear fender lips has been rolled.


Thus for non-AMG W202 owners, if you want to put oversized wheel and tires sets, and your car is lowered chances are that you will need to rolled your front fender.


18x9.5 ET 35 and 19x9.5 ET should have the same clearance.

The KEY to WHEEL FITMENT is not so much of the 18" vs 19" diameter BUT : wheel OFFSET and wheel WIDTH.


9.5 width ET35 should have no rubbing issues on W202. (granted, if your car is way too low that could be an exception !!!)


Also with 9.5 you need to wisely choose tire brand, as different tire brand has bigger rim-protection lip that might affect tire sidewall-shoulder shape.

The tire sidewall-shoulder area will affect the clearance between fender lip and the tire itself.


Hope this helps.

Regardz,

[mr. gatsbury]

Originally posted by J Irwan
this has been asked many time,

as I have mentioned couple of times now about
the differences AMG W202 vs non-AMG W202 in regards to fender lips.

I'll say it again.

AMG W202's both front and rear fender lips has been rolled from the factory.


non-AMG W202's only the rear fender lips has been rolled.


Thus for non-AMG W202 owners, if you want to put oversized wheel and tires sets, and your car is lowered chances are that you will need to rolled your front fender.


18x9.5 ET 35 and 19x9.5 ET should have the same clearance.

The KEY to WHEEL FITMENT is not so much of the 18" vs 19" diameter BUT : wheel OFFSET and wheel WIDTH.


9.5 width ET35 should have no rubbing issues on W202. (granted, if your car is way too low that could be an exception !!!)


Also with 9.5 you need to wisely choose tire brand, as different tire brand has bigger rim-protection lip that might affect tire sidewall-shoulder shape.

The tire sidewall-shoulder area will affect the clearance between fender lip and the tire itself.


Hope this helps.

Regardz,

J,

I am in no way being sarcastic. I just want to clarify this from someone with your experience. I appreciate your attention to detail but. I just need a yes or no. Will a c280 handle 9.5's all the way around at stock height? Will 8.5's in the front and 9.5's in the rear be a better choice? Would I be able to lower the car maybe 1.5 inchs with 8.5's all the way around and not have to worry about rubbing? Would I be able to run 8.5's front and 9.5's in the rear and lower 1.5's with no rubbing? Now I'm not really asking for robot answers like yes or no but if you could let me know and then elaborate that would be awesome....

Thanks in advance...

[J Irwan]

Sorry if I sounded harsh.
I did mean it that way at all :)


Also if you look up old threads, the widest possible for W202 in the front is 8.5".

wider than that you will need wide fender-flare.


If you want to go for staggered and want widest possible on the front

I'd go with 18x8.5/18x9.5

Here is my car with
18x8.5 ET 35 - 235/40/18
18x9.5 ET 35 265/35/18


http://onfinite.com/libraries/7761/f36.jpg
http://onfinite.com/libraries/7819/a85.jpg



Regardz,

[tpliquid]

18x9.5 deftinally wont fit in front

[714guy]

Lovely Wheels J Irwan.

[mr. gatsbury]

J that's awesome. Just what I wanted to know. Thanks. How'd you make out with that powerchip a ways back? I like that chrome trim around the mouldings. I guess that's the elegance pgk. I have the sport so's I don't have the nice chrome..

BTW: How much are you dropped with those Koni adj.???

[tpliquid]

Originally posted by 23K
I run 19x9.5 et 40 with 245-35-19 goodyear eagle F1 tires.
the inside of the rim is very close to the chassis.
It would have been better if I had have got et 35 but they didnt make milanos 9.5 with et35!!
so yes the et35 in 19x9.5 should fit just fine ;)


u have axis?

[Pagz]

Originally posted by tpliquid
u have axis?
yip axis milanos......nice wheels,finish quality is not as high as i would like though.wish i had a digi for the gallery

[mr. gatsbury]

Originally posted by 23K
yip axis milanos......nice wheels,finish quality is not as high as i would like though.wish i had a digi for the gallery

really??? the milanos have a shit finish??? I was set on getting those...damn!

BTW: what model do you have c230, c280 or AMG???

[Pagz]

Originally posted by mr. gatsbury
really??? the milanos have a shit finish??? I was set on getting those...damn!

BTW: what model do you have c230, c280 or AMG???
Iv got a 230k....
the finish is crap compared to other wheels iv had like ADVAN etc
the painting is not tidy,and when the sent my fronts they had changed the 114 stud to 112 and it was messy,maybe i got a bad batch:( ,they still look very nice if you not looking for perfect wheels:)

[mr. gatsbury]

Originally posted by 23K
Iv got a 230k....
the finish is crap compared to other wheels iv had like ADVAN etc
the painting is not tidy,and when the sent my fronts they had changed the 114 stud to 112 and it was messy,maybe i got a bad batch:( ,they still look very nice if you not looking for perfect wheels:)

23,

what size are your milano's? dropped? and rubbing? That sucks, you figure a name like axis would have a high quality product. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for them????

[Pagz]

Originally posted by mr. gatsbury
23,

what size are your milano's? dropped? and rubbing? That sucks, you figure a name like axis would have a high quality product. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for them????

as far as i know they only come in 19's...maybe 18's too,check axis website www.axiswheels.com i think.
they are only made in a few sizes.

mine are 19's...
rear - 19x9.5 et40 with 245/35 goodyear eagles(et 35 would have been better,but they dont make them)
front - 19x8.5 et 35 with 235/35 goodyear eagles

I currently have #1 pads all round on factory sport suspension
and had to roll the front gaurds to avoid rubbing with big dips in the road but they still rub where the gaurd meets the bumper,
but most of this can be avoided by running 225 on the front.

also if you find a good gaurd roller they can make your front gaurds 10mm bigger without damaging paint.i had an awsome job done on mine it almost looks flared!!.

oh...and your Question....they cost 1500 USD.I bought them from US ,and where i live that is equal to 2400 NZD,and a good set of 19 will usually cost 5500 NZD!!,so they are very cheap,an quality shows this.

regards,
Paul

[tpliquid]

Originally posted by 23K
as far as i know they only come in 19's...maybe 18's too,check axis website www.axiswheels.com i think.
they are only made in a few sizes.

mine are 19's...
rear - 19x9.5 et40 with 245/35 goodyear eagles(et 35 would have been better,but they dont make them)
front - 19x8.5 et 35 with 235/35 goodyear eagles

I currently have #1 pads all round on factory sport suspension
and had to roll the front gaurds to avoid rubbing with big dips in the road but they still rub where the gaurd meets the bumper,
but most of this can be avoided by running 225 on the front.

also if you find a good gaurd roller they can make your front gaurds 10mm bigger without damaging paint.i had an awsome job done on mine it almost looks flared!!.

oh...and your Question....they cost 1500 USD.I bought them from US ,and where i live that is equal to 2400 NZD,and a good set of 19 will usually cost 5500 NZD!!,so they are very cheap,an quality shows this.

regards,
Paul

so ur ET40 has no rubbing problems?

[mr. gatsbury]

Originally posted by 23K
as far as i know they only come in 19's...maybe 18's too,check axis website www.axiswheels.com i think.
they are only made in a few sizes.

mine are 19's...
rear - 19x9.5 et40 with 245/35 goodyear eagles(et 35 would have been better,but they dont make them)
front - 19x8.5 et 35 with 235/35 goodyear eagles

I currently have #1 pads all round on factory sport suspension
and had to roll the front gaurds to avoid rubbing with big dips in the road but they still rub where the gaurd meets the bumper,
but most of this can be avoided by running 225 on the front.

also if you find a good gaurd roller they can make your front gaurds 10mm bigger without damaging paint.i had an awsome job done on mine it almost looks flared!!.

oh...and your Question....they cost 1500 USD.I bought them from US ,and where i live that is equal to 2400 NZD,and a good set of 19 will usually cost 5500 NZD!!,so they are very cheap,an quality shows this.

regards,
Paul

23,

you've been most helpful. Thanks for your imput and attention to detail. BTW, you still have some rubbing up front with a 10mm roll? And like tpliquid says, "your et 40 has no rubbing problems?"....

Thanks again man,
john

[Pagz]

Originally posted by mr. gatsbury
23,

you've been most helpful. Thanks for your imput and attention to detail. BTW, you still have some rubbing up front with a 10mm roll? And like tpliquid says, "your et 40 has no rubbing problems?"....

Thanks again man,
john
Thanks John,
yes I still have alittle rubbing only on the front right,where the gaurd meets the bumper,this is because this area can not be
rolled due to the shape of metal.and if you do roll this piece it
makes the gap between the bumper and gaurd distort...
I will fix this with a soft hammer easily.

My left gaurd doesn't rub though...the rolling looks identical...it must be slightly different though!!

also my front wheels hit the front inside plastic lining(where the vent is infront of the wheel) when i turn and reverse,this must be due to movement in suspension geometery.
But i can have full lock with no rubbing when driving forwards.

As for the et40 on rear....the inside of the mags miss a piece of bodystructure by 5mm when the car is jacked of the ground.
but when the car is sitting normally,there is a 10-15mm gap.you can easily run out of room with incorrect tire sizes.

so if you were to get this size rim,I would not go any bigger than
245,otherwise it will rub on the inside.
although in saying this,a rubber hammer can fix this problem easily to without damage.

Regards,
Paul

[mr. gatsbury]

Originally posted by 23K
Thanks John,
yes I still have alittle rubbing only on the front right,where the gaurd meets the bumper,this is because this area can not be
rolled due to the shape of metal.and if you do roll this piece it
makes the gap between the bumper and gaurd distort...
I will fix this with a soft hammer easily.

My left gaurd doesn't rub though...the rolling looks identical...it must be slightly different though!!

also my front wheels hit the front inside plastic lining(where the vent is infront of the wheel) when i turn and reverse,this must be due to movement in suspension geometery.
But i can have full lock with no rubbing when driving forwards.

As for the et40 on rear....the inside of the mags miss a piece of bodystructure by 5mm when the car is jacked of the ground.
but when the car is sitting normally,there is a 10-15mm gap.you can easily run out of room with incorrect tire sizes.

so if you were to get this size rim,I would not go any bigger than
245,otherwise it will rub on the inside.
although in saying this,a rubber hammer can fix this problem easily to without damage.

Regards,


Paul,

good info, did you say you were lowered at all???

thanks,
John

[Pagz]

Originally posted by mr. gatsbury
Paul,

good info, did you say you were lowered at all???

thanks,
John
Im still on factory springs with #1 pads,there is a 10mm gap between the gaurd and the top of tire

when i lower it, there should be plenty of room in the rear.
its the front you will have to worry about...just dont put on 235,
use 225.


i was told goodyear made 225/19/35 eagles,but after i had already bought 245 for rear,they told me there may be a very long wait to get the 225's.so i had to get 235!!!!which has made life alot harder than planned!!all because i wanted the cool tread pattern:D :D :D

Regards,
Paul

[tpliquid]

rear wat abuot rear

[mr. gatsbury]

Originally posted by 23K


mine are 19's...
rear - 19x9.5 et40 with 245/35 goodyear eagles(et 35 would have been better,but they dont make them)


T,

what did you want to know, that's the size he is running...

Let me know..

[tpliquid]

i missed it. my bad

[Jbizzyc43]

I have a c43 and i dropped it with Vogtland springs 1.4" If I put on 19's (19x8.5 front and 19x9.5 rear) with 235/35/19 front and 265/30/19 rear, will I have any rubbing issues? Currently I have some 18x8.5s all around and have not rubbing issues. I just bought some Axis wheels and I want to make sure it will fit okay.

[tpliquid]

265 too big for rrear needs 245

[Jbizzyc43]

Well, 245 is too small for a 9.5 in. wheel. At least a 255, but 255/40 is 1.5 in. taller than 265/30. The rim is 19x9.5 rear. What size has anyone of you guys used on a rim of the same size?

[tpliquid]

Originally posted by Jbizzyc43
Well, 245 is too small for a 9.5 in. wheel. At least a 255, but 255/40 is 1.5 in. taller than 265/30. The rim is 19x9.5 rear. What size has anyone of you guys used on a rim of the same size?

i kno of couple 3+ people run 19x9.5 rear with 245 30 18

[tpliquid]

Originally posted by tpliquid
i kno of couple 3+ people run 19x9.5 rear with 245 30 18

i kno 1 guy tried 265 on rear and rub too much. with 245 he stil had to do fender lining work

[Jbizzyc43]

do they even make a 245/30/19 tire?

[J Irwan]

Originally posted by tpliquid
i kno 1 guy tried 265 on rear and rub too much. with 245 he stil had to do fender lining work


9.5 ideally should be paired with at least 255 and 265 tires respectively.


If this person rub with 265 on 19x.5 than he has an aggressive off set. (and in my book I don't consider that as an ideal offset)


take a look below again.

18x8.5 ET 35 with 235/40/18
19x9.5 ET 35 with 265/35/18 And the rear doesn't rub

http://onfinite.com/libraries/7761/f36.jpg
http://onfinite.com/libraries/7760/dd5.jpg




If you have the proper offset for the right tire fitment for the given wheel width then IT should NOT rub.


with the wrong offset (very aggressive offset (very low offset) )you will still rub even when you run 245 tires on 9.5 or 10 width rims/wheels. :)


So my advise for anybody looking for aftermarket wheels for their W202. GET the RIGHT OFFSET. It will make your modding life a lot easier. :D


Regardz,

[tpliquid]

Originally posted by J Irwan
9.5 ideally should be paired with at least 255 and 265 tires respectively.


If this person rub with 265 on 19x.5 than he has an aggressive off set. (and in my book I don't consider that as an ideal offset)


take a look below again.

18x8.5 ET 35 with 235/40/18
19x9.5 ET 35 with 265/35/18 And the rear doesn't rub


If you have the proper offset for the right tire fitment for the given wheel width then IT should NOT rub.


with the wrong offset (very aggressive offset (very low offset) )you will still rub even when you run 245 tires on 9.5 or 10 width rims/wheels. :)


So my advise for anybody looking for aftermarket wheels for their W202. GET the RIGHT OFFSET. It will make your modding life a lot easier. :D


Regardz,

he has offset 32, i agree offset 35 is best

[Jbizzyc43]

okay. so if the wheel size is 19x9.5 in the rear and has a 37 offset, will it rub with 265/30/19? Any tire pros out there please advise. Thank you.

[tpliquid]

Originally posted by Jbizzyc43
okay. so if the wheel size is 19x9.5 in the rear and has a 37 offset, will it rub with 265/30/19? Any tire pros out there please advise. Thank you.

will rub on the inside