Lubricants to use for optimal performance

[jnenad16]

-----THIS IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY, I AM NOT ADVERTISING ANY OF THESE PRODUCTS------------------
Many of us wonder which lubricants should be used for superior component protection, racing, best gas mileage,most power and such. Wonder no more. I have spent last 3 years trying just about every product there is on the market, testing for these qualities. So, instead of guessing which lubricants you should use for such benefits, just read this post. I will list the top three brands for each component according to my conclusions.

ENGINE:
1. Redline
2. Amsoil
3. Lucas Racing Oil

TRANSMISSION (AUTO)
1. Redline ATF
2. B&M Trick Shift
3. Amsoil ATF

TRANSMISSION (MANUAL)
1. Redline MT Gear Oil
2. Amsoil Gear Oil
3. Lucas Synthetic Gear Oil

DIFFERENTIAL
1. Redline Gear Oil
2. Amsoil Gear Oil
3. Lucas Synthetic Gear Oil

I hope you find this useful.

Nenad

[Denlasoul]

Could you go into a little more detail about each classification? For example, "I chose Redline for my engine because...."

Also, could you go into how you determined which product is better than the other?

I'm just curious on how you came up with your conclusions.

Thanks!

[jnenad16]

Originally posted by Denlasoul
Could you go into a little more detail about each classification? For example, "I chose Redline for my engine because...."

Also, could you go into how you determined which product is better than the other?

I'm just curious on how you came up with your conclusions.

Thanks!

the vehicles I used for this experiment were 1995 C280(first with a 2.8 and later with a 3.2L engines) and 1997 328is(for manual trans tests).
well, my primary objective was more power, so i tried a lot(and i mean alot) of products, i even had to swap out my engine because some of them were dangerous for it and melted my piston rings(mostly fuel additives). basically, most of the products i listed yielded more power for my vehicle, as well as smooth running. regarding determination, as i said before, it took me 3+ years to test different oils and additives, record my gas mileage with each of them, and to notice the difference in power and driveability. I even had my car dynoed at my friend's shop, first with all the conventional fluids, and after with all the fluids listed as no.1, and then with those fluids + additives listed as no.1 and these were the gains:

synthetic fluids over conventional~4hp
synthetic fluids over syn. fluids +additives~7hp
but the highest gains were in the gas mileage, and if i remember correctly,
sythetic fluids over conventional~5% increase
syn. fluids over syn. fluids + additives~11% increase(this included fuel lubricants which i listed in my "additives for optimal performance" thread)

[manny]

I believe it is well a known fact, that synthetics will yield horsepower & mileage increases over conventional oils.
Only problem I have with your " study " is, none of the lubricants mentioned ( especially Amway, oops, Amsoil, are warranty approved by M-B. ;)

[Denlasoul]

Thanks nenad. It's good to see how you came up with your conclusions. I think it may help myself as well as others.

[jnenad16]

Originally posted by manny
I believe it is well a known fact, that synthetics will yield horsepower & mileage increases over conventional oils.
Only problem I have with your " study " is, none of the lubricants mentioned ( especially Amway, oops, Amsoil, are warranty approved by M-B. ;)

I know that synthetics will give more HP, but I not all synthetics are created equal, which is why I wanted to find the best ones out there. As for the warranty part, it was not of my concern since none of my cars were under it, even if they were,I still wouldnt care much about it. the reason these oils are not approved my MB and others is because the dealerships dont have contracts with them. Do you actually think that Mobil 1 is better than any of these oils? these oils are formulated for racing, which means that they must protect the engines and other components better than the OE fluids.Plus alot of us on this site have vehicles which are not covered by the warranty anymore.
Please dont think that I am mad or pissed at you for for being skeptical, I just want to help all the members of this site that have ever wondered which oil or additive they should use for higher vehicle output.

nenad

[jnenad16]

Originally posted by Denlasoul
Thanks nenad. It's good to see how you came up with your conclusions. I think it may help myself as well as others.

so glad to hear it. that was the whole purpose of posting this.

thank you very much,
nenad

[manny]

An oil meant for racing has absolutely nothing to do with an oil for everyday driving.
Unless you rev your engine to 10 000 rpm, run it for 12 - 24 hours max., and then rebuild the engine completely.
So yes, I prefer the " lesser quality " Mobil 1 in my street vehicle.
Btw., I used to operate a dynamometer for years, so I know what makes horsepower, reduces engine wear, & increases fuel economy. ;)

[jnenad16]

Originally posted by manny

So yes, I prefer the " lesser quality " Mobil 1 in my street vehicle.


I didn't post this thread to argue with anyone. The sole purpose was to inform people about these oils. Everyone has a right and is free to form his/her own opinion and choose with oil they will use.
If you feel offended or agitated in any way by my posts, simply disregard them.

nenad

[ricerokets4life]

so will these 3 engine oils cause premature wear on the engine?

[jnenad16]

Originally posted by ricerokets4life
so will these 3 engine oils cause premature wear on the engine?

no, they are absolutely safe to use for daily driving. they are designed for passenger cars but with racing in mind.
check out their websites for more info.
www.redlineoil.com
www.amsoil.com
www.lucasoil.com

nenad

[jnolte]

Jnenad

thank you for posting this info.

i always wondered about some of these various companies this helps alot!

thnka you

[jnenad16]

Originally posted by jnolte
Jnenad

thank you for posting this info.

i always wondered about some of these various companies this helps alot!

thnka you

its my pleasure!

nenad

[nudymeyer6]

honestly how could someone see standard mobil 1 as better then amsoil or redline? but hey whatever floats your boat. personally i am an amsoil fan and i too work at a mechanics shop.;)

[aruba]

jnenad, i'm so happy that there are people on this forum that take there time and try to do some research ,and post there results in order help others.i personaly y have taken almost all of youre post in considiration they are very helpfull

so what im trying to say thank you for posting this threat.
i was also under the impresion that mobil 1 was one of the best out there,but thats one of the reason why i joined this forum , to learn new stuff . :banana:

[iced]

thnx nenad this is helpful:)
yet i have 1 question:
changing engine and tranny fluis will give me about 10hp? how come?

[jnenad16]

Originally posted by iced
thnx nenad this is helpful:)
yet i have 1 question:
changing engine and tranny fluis will give me about 10hp? how come?
by just changing the engine and trans fluids with synthetic ones wont yields such gains, but also replacing your differential and power steering fluids and using quality treatments I listed in my "additives" thread might give you an increase up to 7 hp at the wheels, this figure I give is confirmed on my car. other cars will have different gains, it all depends on the condition of your engine, trans, diff and other components and performance mods you have done to your car. most cars gain about 2-3hp just by replacing their fluids with synthetics. however, most of these gains are not noticable by just flooring your gas pedal and feeling the difference. the most noticable difference is usually the increase in gas mileage.

nenad

[c55m8o]

all, RE: "and using quality treatments I listed in my "additives" thread " ... see:
http://www.club202.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5614&highlight=additives

...man, what a mad scientist! Major thanx not only for your efforts but for sharing your findings with us!

[choppers_rule]

Thanks Nenad, really appreciate your research-....I always wonder which oil will give the best protection. If your engine is over 100K, is it wise to use sinthetic oil?? my head gasker sip a bit, I 'm affraid to use sinthetic.

[jnenad16]

Originally posted by choppers_rule
Thanks Nenad, really appreciate your research-....I always wonder which oil will give the best protection. If your engine is over 100K, is it wise to use sinthetic oil?? my head gasker sip a bit, I 'm affraid to use sinthetic.
just use a grade thicker than you usually use and it should be alright, but still a leak is a leak, almost nothing will stop it but the repair.

nenad

[omeyhomey]

Royal purple is the best money can buy. It makes Redline oils feel like dino sludge oil. RP is the best period.