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Pagz
08-16-2005, 10:15 PM
well,....after very little thought,the only option for a new front bumper to house the IC was Lumma's "slightly ugly but will have to do bumper"
.....so far iv sold off most my organs in payment for the cost to get it from germany to NewZealand....
.....$1281 for the bumper(inc frieght)....$300 for customs and tax etc....$275 for painting...plus hours of wasted time dealing with customs.

But...it does look quit alright in the flesh,the bumper is well made and uses all the factory fixing locations,it fits perfect,the only modification was alittle grinding around the IC pipes...

let me know what you all think!

excuse the crap pics,will post more when its painted.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_74_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_75_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_76_full.jpg

Paul

misterblack
08-16-2005, 10:34 PM
looks nice!!!!!
the front mount IC makes the difference.......good choice!

jaysonvaldez
08-16-2005, 10:36 PM
that would be my choice of bumper if I had to house a bigger intercooler. It looks good. Very evil looking with the intercooler

misterblack
08-16-2005, 10:53 PM
I agree......very nice! The front IC along with wheels and ride height make the front bumper blend much better.

Never thought that front bumper could look good......I was very wrong!!! I would do the same for a front mount IC.

Whole car looks good! those front shots look amazing! It's all about the wheels though...they can make or break that look.....and your choice of wheel is perfect!

KenzBenz
08-16-2005, 11:39 PM
man u got one sick w202 going on

crazy00c230k
08-17-2005, 12:13 AM
wow, the IC really does make all the difference, looks great!

c280nz
08-17-2005, 12:49 AM
Thats bad man.
1800$ from germany is steep tho :-/ bloody customs are hard to work with ah, u should a said it was a gift from an uncle :-)
But very bad non the less!!!

savant
08-17-2005, 02:47 AM
Sorry a bit off topic, just wondering what part of Auckland (or NZ) you guys are from, I am central Auckland...

sig425
08-17-2005, 04:44 AM
bumper looks pretty good. It really features the IC. Some grill work in the two side vents would smooth out the lines a bit and make it look more complete imo.

crsh2
08-17-2005, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by 23K
well,....after very little thought,the only option for a new front bumper to house the IC was Lumma's "slightly ugly but will have to do bumper"

Paul

:cool: No hating here. I've seen in other other cars in the net, but it didn't look quite right with out the IC. But this looks perfect reallly aggressive looking.

It's not painted yet is it?
That is alot of money for the front bumper

2 thumbs up

Denlasoul
08-17-2005, 08:31 AM
Yeah, same fgoes for me. When I first saw the bumper, not too impressive. Definitely needed something more up front. I think that the IC looks perfect sitting there. :D

714guy
08-17-2005, 09:16 AM
look really nice, But the get the AG grill and some mesh to cover the side openings of the bumper and you it will look SICK.

trymonlam
08-17-2005, 09:34 AM
i never liked lumma... until now. with that IC it does make quite a difference. it's got a very practical, mean racing look. enjoy yout new ride, buddy. u will get a lot of heads turned.

Pagz
08-17-2005, 01:48 PM
thankyou for all for the thumbs up,I didnt like the look of it either on the lumma site without the IC...,so was very unsure about purchasing,but seems to have worked out alot better than i imagened...



It's not painted yet is it?
Its just in being painted at the moment.

1800$ from germany is steep tho :-/ bloody customs are hard to work with ah, u should a said it was a gift from an uncle :-)
I tried but lumma tuning wouldnt play ball....well,it is illegal;)

look really nice, But the get the AG grill and some mesh to cover the side openings of the bumper and you it will look SICK.
the bumper came with a black mesh,it should look alright i hope!...
hey whats the AG grill?

Paul

Pagz
08-17-2005, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by savant
Sorry a bit off topic, just wondering what part of Auckland (or NZ) you guys are from, I am central Auckland...

welcome,
Im central Auckland too,Hillsborough area.

Paul

trymonlam
08-17-2005, 04:29 PM
gotta say, the picture with the hood up looks better than it's down. i have no idea what that would indicate, but it just seemed that way... guys, any thoughts?

Ashkan's C280
08-17-2005, 05:15 PM
sorry to say but still not a fan... granted it looks much better with the ic, and it fits your application perfectly, but still not a preference of mine, just doesn't seem right...

Pagz
08-17-2005, 05:24 PM
fare enough:) ,
it is very hard to please everybody,but i will promise not to paint it blue and half cover my lights with the bonnet:p

SLAMMED_C
08-17-2005, 05:27 PM
DAMN buddy.. that looks tight.. I like lots.
hmmm.. now I may need to get one!! he he he
and it would work out perfect too.. I need a winter bumper.. so I could use my stock one for winter.. and then get the Lumma for summer!! Hhmmmmmmmmmmmm
is the Lumma bumper any larger in dimensions.. is it taller (bottom of lumma bumper closer to ground compared to stock bumper)?
keep up the sick work man..

Pagz
08-17-2005, 05:49 PM
Yo slammed,thanks man!,
you should definatly get it!,i think it would look great in black!...
it sits about 50mm lower than the factory bumper and slightly wider,i thought it would hit when i drive out the garage,but its fine.

im heading up north to see the olds this weekend and i have to cross on the car ferry,i had trouble getting on with factory springs last time lol!!...i should have made a mould to replace it on monday heheeh...hope the tides right.
laters...

SLAMMED_C
08-17-2005, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by 23K
Yo slammed,thanks man!,
you should definatly get it!,i think it would look great in black!...
it sits about 50mm lower than the factory bumper and slightly wider,i thought it would hit when i drive out the garage,but its fine.

im heading up north to see the olds this weekend and i have to cross on the car ferry,i had trouble getting on with factory springs last time lol!!...i should have made a mould to replace it on monday heheeh...hope the tides right.
laters...
OMG!!.. 50mm.. thats 3"!!! I think my front bumper would be dragging on the ground if I had the Lumma!!
I'll have to measure to see it it will be on the ground or not!
but it looks really mean man.
when ya gettin it back from paint?
I just sent out my headlight eyebrows to get painted yesterday.. hope to have them by the end of the week or early next week.
damn!.. at least ya dont scrape going into the garage!.. and good luck with the ferry ride!! I think youre gonna need it!

What is the Lumma bumper made of?.. ABS or Fiberglass...

Pagz
08-17-2005, 06:45 PM
lol 2" man:D ,
I will take some exact measurements and send'em to you to compare.
koo ill check your page when the eye lids are on!
the bumper is made of fibre glass,its VERY well made,theres 10 alloy brakets including the two side sliding ones attached to the bumper,the gel coat was spotless with a glass like finish,alot better than most of the kits sold here.

SpEeDy230
08-17-2005, 10:18 PM
Looks pretty damn good to me!!!!

aruba
08-17-2005, 10:58 PM
that 202 is sooooooo cooollllllllll yo c2k thats one sick looking 202 i've got to give it 3 thumps up hope to see the finished project soon keep it up:cool:

714guy
08-18-2005, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by 23K



hey whats the AG grill?

Paul

the avantgarde grill or S600 style with the 6 chrome strips.

sanf
08-19-2005, 05:26 AM
anything to protect the intercooler?

trymonlam
08-19-2005, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by sanf
anything to protect the intercooler?

quite a practical question there... yeah, anything to protect that? it will get chipped and all.

!!!!!NJ Drive
08-19-2005, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
sorry to say but still not a fan... granted it looks much better with the ic, and it fits your application perfectly, but still not a preference of mine, just doesn't seem right... same here, but it really doesnt look all that terrible...the openings are jus a little too big for my taste

boesewicht
08-20-2005, 09:36 AM
Hey Paul.

Looks very nice! I'm glad you got one. But I'm sad that you had to pay so much. I would have helped you with that, BUT my father died three weeks ago. That's also the case why you guys heard nothing from me.

He died in the age of 46 and as most of you guys know, I'm only 20 and just finished school.

Everything was cool on Friday evening, my dad made jokes about my plan to fill up coffee in cans because I wanted to drive 1000 km to France (for holiday) that night. We all went to bed and at midnight my mum ran into the room and shouted that my dad stopped to breathe and that he reacts on nothing. My brother, me and my girlfriend, we ran into the bedroom of my parents and there lied my dad, motionless, no pulse, no heartbeat. He turned from body temperature to icecold and his lips and the rest of the body turnes blue. In our arms.

Abrupt heart death.

He died. From one moment to the other.



Rest in peace, my beloved father. We all miss you!



Now I have to run the family business, together with my mom and my brother and our employees. Without the chief. Without my father. It's so hard guys.

Substantial things are so dispensable. The only thing that really counts is the family, the people we love, the people we live together with all day long.


To come back to topic:

Paul, it looks so nice. I would have helped you, please excuse that I didn't answer you.

I destroyed my Lumma front bumper on friday, it's gone. But a new one arrived. It will go on the car next week. I paid a fraction of your costs. Sorry that I didn't helped you.

Alex.

Renn 208
08-20-2005, 10:38 AM
Alex,

I'm so sorry for your loss and send my sincere condolences.


AJ

aruba
08-20-2005, 03:37 PM
sorry to hear that , you may not know me but i would also like to send my sincere condolences.

Under Pressure
08-20-2005, 03:55 PM
Wow it looks very aggressive, and pushes the envelope of being overdone, but within the limits of "looking hot." I thought those bumpers would like decent w/ a IC behind them, looks like I was right. Yes, I think you have my approval (luckey you!). Looks nice. Is that large IC just for the factory kompressor? Does it have any negative affects in performance? Any benefits? Let us know!

trymonlam
08-20-2005, 05:41 PM
i joined the forum while u were away, sorry for your loss, my friend.

Pagz
08-20-2005, 09:32 PM
Im very sorry to hear this Alex,
My sinsere condolences to you and your family.
I did wonder where you had got too,no worries with the bumper.







Great to see more positive comments,thanks guys
I had the bumper painted and i fitted it last friday,it looks great!...
I started to attach the black mesh that was provided for the three holes,but ripped it off before it dryed as i think it just didnt suit...
so i used the stainless mesh i had from the old bumper to protect the IC until i figure out what colour and size the mesh will be...

-the idea i currently have is to use the 9mm stainless mesh in all three holes and paint it the same grey colour as the grill.

-I also cant decide where to mount the number plate...off to the side...or in the middle????




Wow it looks very aggressive, and pushes the envelope of being overdone, but within the limits of "looking hot." I thought those bumpers would like decent w/ a IC behind them, looks like I was right. Yes, I think you have my approval (luckey you!). Looks nice. Is that large IC just for the factory kompressor? Does it have any negative affects in performance? Any benefits? Let us know!

Hey Thanks for approval heh:cool:!!
The IC currently still runs the stock SC,so there may be a possibility there is a loss,but i wont know till i finally get back on the dyno,which has been delayed due to some exhaust changes needing to be done first...,
the main reason i changed to the bigger IC was for looks,and i intended to run a pully kit,but now it looks like it will be turbo instead...
but there will be a massive right up when this day comes around!

Here is an updated pic while im up in my hometown,

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_80_full.jpg

Hey slammed, the measurement from the gaurd line to the bottom of the bumper is about 400mm.and from the bottom of the bonnet grill is 340mm,I managed to get on the ferry at low tide and make it up my olds very steep drive,lol i was totally amazed!...laters

Regards,
Paul

Under Pressure
08-20-2005, 09:58 PM
Damn, that looks really hot!!! I know I just said that about two posts up, but that new photo is a great angle. That bumper really works for me with that intercooler and piping behind it. THey really make use of all that open space that otherwise looks strange. Thats one of the best looking W202's I've seen, though it took me a few minutes of studying it to like it. Are you going to turbo and leave kompressor (twin-charge)? Or are you going to remove kompressor and replace w/ turbo? I think you should twin-charge for both low end and upper end power. The only drawback I could see the rather complicated build and the weight penalty. Anyway, I will stay tuned to see what you have up your sleeve.

c280nz
08-21-2005, 02:13 AM
once again
-Shit-that-looks-cool-
:cool:

crsh2
08-21-2005, 07:47 AM
23k Hands down this is one of my favorite car now.

Now your gonna have a following on that bumper and it wont look right on other cars!:cool:

2 Big Thumbs up!

Just what under pressure said. That angle of the picture LOOK SO GOOD!

take more picture of different angle like that and a bigger size i want it as a background on my com

Under Pressure
08-21-2005, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by crsh2
Now your gonna have a following on that bumper and it wont look right on other cars!:cool:

Totally. 23K pulled of the impossible by making that bumper look good. I hope others w/o a large front mount dont try to get that look too, it wont look right w/ nothing behind those huge air dams. I can't wait to see what else he has in mind for the future?

I think he hsould get Lorinser (authentic or replica) side skirts and rear bumper, I think they would go w. that front bumper. Also, maybe an AMG low profile spoiler to even out the back.

Do you guys think it would be "rice" to put in some very small Piaa foglights into the air-dams where the intercooler piping is exposed? It looks good when the Supra crowd does it, not sure about a Benz...

trymonlam
08-21-2005, 01:32 PM
a bit off topic, but what is that gray thing on th right of the picture next to the pillar???

aruba
08-21-2005, 09:54 PM
lol just noticed that also ! reminds me of one eye willy:Pirate:

trymonlam
08-21-2005, 10:26 PM
i am burning to know, man. what is that thing?

Pagz
08-22-2005, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Under Pressure
Totally. 23K pulled of the impossible by making that bumper look good. I hope others w/o a large front mount dont try to get that look too, it wont look right w/ nothing behind those huge air dams. I can't wait to see what else he has in mind for the future?

I think he hsould get Lorinser (authentic or replica) side skirts and rear bumper, I think they would go w. that front bumper. Also, maybe an AMG low profile spoiler to even out the back.

Do you guys think it would be "rice" to put in some very small Piaa foglights into the air-dams where the intercooler piping is exposed? It looks good when the Supra crowd does it, not sure about a Benz...

hey thanks again Under pressure,crsh2,C280nz
i have thought about making some custom carbon fibre inserts with spots for the outer portion of the two outer ducts,...and have also looked into side and rear skirts....but that will have to wait a while now,as im happy woth the look and are more keen on performance mods to match the now more aggressive look!:)

hey Under pressure,i will most likely go for a single turbo setup,and keep it simple,initially only run boost till the ECU faults it so from what iv read around 8psi depending on efficiency.there should be some good gains in releasing the rotating mass for the SC drive belt and crank pully also,im just tring to find somone who can give me some direction on turbine/housing specs so i can get the ball rolling,will let you all know as i progress.

Paul



i am burning to know, man. what is that thing?
LOL that does look wierd...haha its a fish,with its mouth open facing upward,its on an odd angle in that pic.

c280nz
08-27-2005, 12:33 AM
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum
look for a guy called speedtek on here.
he is very switched on with turbo benz. im giving him a good flogging of questions at the moment and he is excellent!
:cool:

Pagz
08-28-2005, 02:07 PM
thanks man,
will check it out!

Hank
08-29-2005, 09:41 AM
like WOH!!! skeet skeet skeet skeeet! damme mas gasolina! looks good paul! i would recommend only one other thing.. polish the IC piping! :D :D

Hank
08-29-2005, 09:42 AM
oh, and maybe an Avantgarde grill. ;)