View Full Version : Homies C280 Twin turbos
tpliquid
10-21-2005, 12:00 PM
http://www.viptrim.com/misc/IM000951.JPG
1996 C280 Twin turbo kit. 4get wat PSI he was running.
anyways he crashed the car so its dead now.
Under Pressure
10-21-2005, 12:05 PM
Was that Rascel's? Man, he had that Mosselman turbo kit for like only a month before his car got totalled. Poor guy. What happened to him and that kit?
tpliquid
10-21-2005, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Under Pressure
Was that Rascel's? Man, he had that Mosselman turbo kit for like only a month before his car got totalled. Poor guy. What happened to him and that kit?
he got a 300CE.. the kit is all rusted... he tookt he turbos out and left everything else in the car.. the turbos are sitting inside the trunk lol.. engine is pretty rusted too.. i was gonna use it on my car but i didnt want all that rust.. heh
Sulaco
10-21-2005, 12:47 PM
What kind of gains did he get from that? 20hp? 0-60=?
Renn 208
10-21-2005, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Sulaco
What kind of gains did he get from that? 20hp? 0-60=?
It felt a good deal more than 20...but who knows for sure.
tpliquid
10-21-2005, 01:02 PM
lets just say it can keep up with C43....
MBenzNL can tell you the story
!!!!!NJ Drive
10-21-2005, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by tpliquid
lets just say it can keep up with C43....
MBenzNL can tell you the story hmmm....*waits for Steve to chime in*
Under Pressure
10-21-2005, 02:17 PM
according to www.mosselmanturbo.com the twin turbo C280 makes 285hp
tpliquid, you have access to the kit and you won't take it b/c of a little rust you can polish out? You're nuts - that is a VERY VERY VERY expensive kit.
What rusted anyway? The manifold is 35% nickle, and the piping is all powdercoated for and should be protected. Geez kid, go to the junkyard his car is at and take the damn kit! Then pay some metal polishing shop a hundred bucks to give it a high polish and remove any rust. THen all you need to do is buy some T25's, or just ask Rascel for his. Man tpliquid, I would have this done by next week if I were you so I could beat on C36's.
Edit - at least post what junkyard his car is at so maybe other club202 members can go there and salvage that beautiful kit
aintME
10-21-2005, 02:43 PM
OMGOMOGOMGOMGOLOLOLOLLOLOLO. sorry, i just had a tP moment.
tpliquid
10-21-2005, 02:52 PM
i herd usmtin was cracked in one of thr turbos... i really like to go with single turbo setup... not really into 300HP monster.. justa s long as i can beat civics all day.
Under Pressure
10-21-2005, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by tpliquid
i herd usmtin was cracked in one of thr turbos... i really like to go with single turbo setup... not really into 300HP monster.. justa s long as i can beat civics all day.
Single turbos are for four cylinders.
Ashkan's C280
10-21-2005, 10:32 PM
nice car... sorry to hear about the crash... I would cry if that happened to me
Abuimad
10-21-2005, 11:21 PM
i say buy it repair it, and install it, 285hp is a big deal with a car thats as light as ours, how much is it selling for anyways ??? and how much would it cost to repair it ??
Ashkan's C280
10-21-2005, 11:22 PM
our cars are very heavy... not that light man....
Ashkan's C280
10-21-2005, 11:23 PM
and is there much lag with this twin turbo setup... or do you have power very quickly and down low???
c280nz
10-21-2005, 11:48 PM
um the torque is ment to be pritty ggood with the twin turbos. two smaller turbos spool up quicker and give better bottom end.
And a single larger turbo would spool a bit later but have the potential to make higher hp numbers as it wount run out of air at higher rpm
Silver202
10-22-2005, 06:32 AM
That setup's crazy.....sucks he crashed it
manny
10-22-2005, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by Ashkan's C280
our cars are very heavy... not that light man....
Do you even know how much your car weighs? :rolleyes:
Renn 208
10-22-2005, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Silver202
That setup's crazy.....sucks he crashed it
I think he got t-boned by someone else...
Sulaco
10-22-2005, 08:50 AM
C280's weigh somewhere around 3300 lbs.
m104 w202's weigh 3360 to be exact.
Off topic: Even in my car's terrible condition, I beat a scion tC last night. Woo!
Under Pressure
10-22-2005, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Renn 208
I think he got t-boned by someone else...
Word up. I guess he was going through an intersection and got broadsided by someone pretty hard.
tpliquid
10-22-2005, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Under Pressure
Single turbos are for four cylinders.
why spend ~$4000 on a car that is only worth $10,000???
tpliquid
10-22-2005, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Under Pressure
Word up. I guess he was going through an intersection and got broadsided by someone pretty hard.
yea he misread the light for green instead of red..because he was looking at the light on the next intersection...
Sulaco
10-22-2005, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by tpliquid
why spend ~$4000 on a car that is only worth $10,000???
Ask that of all the rice rocketeers swarming the streets.
After all the money and lime-green coloring you add, it's still a Honda.
At least this guy's car was a Benz ;)
Under Pressure
10-22-2005, 03:05 PM
$4000? My single turbo Mosselman turbo kit was retail at $5k (though I paid less). I imagine a twin turbo kit is $6k or more.
Anyway, I thought you had access to his old car, so I would imagine you could get whats left for very cheap if not free
tpliquid
10-22-2005, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Under Pressure
$4000? My single turbo Mosselman turbo kit was retail at $5k (though I paid less). I imagine a twin turbo kit is $6k or more.
Anyway, I thought you had access to his old car, so I would imagine you could get whats left for very cheap if not free
it was aroudn 4k...i think JRE can shine some light on this
frankthetank_86
10-22-2005, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by tpliquid
why spend ~$4000 on a car that is only worth $10,000???
Sorry to say but what does it matter to you DADDY pays for everything, so what would 4K be????NOTHING for you, you big baller.:rolleyes:
tpliquid
10-23-2005, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by frankthetank_86
Sorry to say but what does it matter to you DADDY pays for everything, so what would 4K be????NOTHING for you, you big baller.:rolleyes:
ok i'll ask him tomrrow. 99
alhacker
10-23-2005, 06:56 AM
they are extremly expensive for that amout of money i could swap my engine tranny and ecu for a V8
aruba
10-23-2005, 03:03 PM
i thought the mosselman twin turbo setup would come with this huge cool intercooler but the piping seem to show that there is no intercooler present any of you guys have any info on this
Under Pressure
10-23-2005, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by aruba
i thought the mosselman twin turbo setup would come with this huge cool intercooler but the piping seem to show that there is no intercooler present any of you guys have any info on this
My single turbo kit for the C220 came w/ an intercooler. Not sure about the twin turbo.
tpliquid
10-23-2005, 03:44 PM
the C280 version did not come with intercooler...
aruba
10-23-2005, 03:45 PM
:dpress:
alhacker
10-23-2005, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by aruba
i thought the mosselman twin turbo setup would come with this huge cool intercooler but the piping seem to show that there is no intercooler present any of you guys have any info on this the twin turbo setup doesnt come with an IC with mosselman... i bet if the kit is modified much more gains are expected an increase of 20% minimum
Originally posted by alhacker
the twin turbo setup doesnt come with an IC with mosselman... i bet if the kit is modified much more gains are expected an increase of 20% minimum
I guess the system runs the turbos in a good efficiency area,and to keep cost down they saw no need to run an IC...theres also the fact there is little room for a bigger IC unless you chop your bumper etc....
there is no doubt an IC at any turbo efficiency area will help that kit!!!....
Mang sombody here needs to get this kit on!!!:)
joshm38
06-15-2007, 11:57 PM
could this work on my 99 c280 i would use a different turbo but if i buy his piping?
tpliquid
06-15-2007, 11:58 PM
no sir, his is I6 u have V6
joshm38
06-16-2007, 12:13 AM
do u know any sc or turbos for cheap that anyones selling for my v6?
C280/////AMG
06-16-2007, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by tpliquid
no sir, his is I6 u have V6
I don't see why that should be a problem...the i6 exhaust manifold is 3->1, as is the V6, and since it's a twin turbo, each manifold has it's own turbo...correct me if i'm wrong but i see no problem with using this kit on a V6.
One must just keep in mind that the V6 has a higher operating temp than the i6...this could be an issue when it comes to cooling and reliability
joshm38
06-28-2007, 07:38 AM
who can gwt in touch with this guy i want this old setup?
tpliquid
06-28-2007, 08:00 AM
there dead.
joshm38
06-28-2007, 10:58 AM
how? and can u get the parts?
JRE320
06-28-2007, 11:00 AM
The parts won't be cheap if you are serious about it.
tpliquid
06-28-2007, 11:03 AM
jre got the parts form my friend who died in car accident.
JRE320
06-28-2007, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by tpliquid
jre got the parts form my friend who died in car accident.
Did he really died in a car accident? :confused: :eek:
tpliquid
06-28-2007, 11:17 AM
no he didnt, iwa s kidding.
but 2 of my friends did pass away few months ago in a car accident on 280.
Originally posted by C280/////AMG
I don't see why that should be a problem...the i6 exhaust manifold is 3->1, as is the V6, and since it's a twin turbo, each manifold has it's own turbo...correct me if i'm wrong but i see no problem with using this kit on a V6.
One must just keep in mind that the V6 has a higher operating temp than the i6...this could be an issue when it comes to cooling and reliability
Hey!,
It would be a long shot to get those manifolds and make them fit a V6,you would need to flip one for each side,so if the turbine flange wasnt centre of the manifold then both turbos would be offset...even without ever seeing one im pretty sure your manifold flanges wouldnt meet up either!...
THEN...we'd end up like Remo with a front mount and nothing else
:p
joshm38
06-28-2007, 01:51 PM
im very interested pm me some info and let me know if i can get it to work?
looking at this pic,you can see the manifolds arnt symetrical in the horizontal or vertical planes,so without taking into account flange difference theres possibly less than 1% chance they will work on the V6 =)
Just do a custom manifold,then you get the turbos where they should be with best clearance.
http://www.viptrim.com/misc/IM000951.JPG
joshm38
06-28-2007, 03:39 PM
how much is this going to cost whos down in sd that can help me? and anyone want to contribute to this project i wont forget the help:D
JRE320
06-28-2007, 04:59 PM
I can hook you up with a brand new Mosselman turbo if you want one. ;)
Take note: there's a waiting time for the Mosselman turbo to get here. It take's
about 4-6 weeks. I can get you a 10% discount on this.
I don't believed it would work on a V6.
joshm38
06-28-2007, 05:25 PM
i need a custom manifold plus turbo rite? do u have all the piping?
Piping will be completely custom on the V6.
Have you thought about engine managment?
c280nz
06-28-2007, 08:51 PM
the two exhaust flanges onto the head on the m104 are the same, so im guessing that those two 3>1 turbo flanges would be quite similar to each other.
but get a custom one made,
like im in the process of
6>1 + stainless = difficult :-)
joshm38
06-28-2007, 09:02 PM
what exactly do i nedd and how much?
RemoLexi
06-28-2007, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by 23K
THEN...we'd end up like Remo with a front mount and nothing else
:p
HEY!!! :mad:
LOL no, actually, since I downsized to a smaller turbo, I got a differnt manifold, it was bolted on and tested and its also a top-mount turbo. im just going to completly fix my suspension components get a new bumper then, only then will I start to move forward with this turbo project. safty comes first right ? what good would it be if I have a turbo and horrible squeelin brakes ? ... at least it wouldnt cost me $$20K ++ :p :D
Originally posted by RemoLexi
HEY!!! :mad:
LOL no, actually, since I downsized to a smaller turbo, I got a differnt manifold, it was bolted on and tested and its also a top-mount turbo. im just going to completly fix my suspension components get a new bumper then, only then will I start to move forward with this turbo project. safty comes first right ? what good would it be if I have a turbo and horrible squeelin brakes ? ... at least it wouldnt cost me $$20K ++ :p :D
hehehe just hav'n ya on:p
Sounds good look forward to see'n it progress!
It all takes time...just way to much of it=)
Markland556
06-29-2007, 02:28 PM
Are you going to sell those manifolds? Or how much would it cost me to get some made for my C36?
202rules
07-01-2007, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by JRE320
I can hook you up with a brand new Mosselman turbo if you want one. ;)
Take note: there's a waiting time for the Mosselman turbo to get here. It take's
about 4-6 weeks. I can get you a 10% discount on this.
I don't believed it would work on a V6.
I could swear I once contacted Mosselman to ask if they offered any kits for the I6 C280 and the answer was no. This was in fall 2003 or early 2004 I think.
JRE320
07-01-2007, 12:02 PM
I would think Mosselman answer you incorrectly. Coz they won't entertain question if you're not one of the distributor.
The posted picture on the topic came from
Mosselman and it's an I6 C280. So why would they say no if they have produce one?
QUOTE]Originally posted by 202rules
I could swear I once contacted Mosselman to ask if they offered any kits for the I6 C280 and the answer was no. This was in fall 2003 or early 2004 I think. [/QUOTE]:
202rules
07-01-2007, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by JRE320
I would think Mosselman answer you incorrectly. Coz they won't entertain question if you're not one of the distributor.
The posted picture on the topic came from
Mosselman and it's an I6 C280. So why would they say no if they have produce one?
Nevermind, I was confused. I just figured out it was Kleemann that I was in touch with. The dealer is in Colorado, that's the one thing I remembered and I just checked.
mike mac
07-03-2007, 05:17 AM
what about ECU chip / managment with this Bi-Turbo Kit?
where can i just get the headers or manifold seperatly and part of the intake that separate from the turbos to the intake?
i would like to put a kit together with my own turbo's and what not, just need a head start.
also i think that the air box and piping should all be cold air and in not a bog intercooler a mini one( every bit helps)
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