Out of these two choices which is better Koni Kit or Vogt Kit?

[FreeStyler]

http://www.purems.com/products/category.php?CA=189&PA=7

We have the Koni shocks and springs set at 490.95 Plus shipping

Or we have the vogtland shocks and springs set at 559.95?

I really need to lower my car, i've been talking about lowering my car forever now and I never did it. I need to do it.

PS

If anyone is selling just lowering springs or lowering springs and shocks that will fit a 1998 c230, let me know on here or through email at eckofade72@comcast.net Thanks.

[kameraguy]

A few of us bought the Koni Adjustables with KwiK's group buy a couple of years ago. From Pure MS.

I still have them and I really like them. They have three stages of stiffness, which is nice. I have mine on full-hard and it still seems compliant. But it certainly is pretty stiff.

I don't know anything about the Vogts, but the Konis have a lifetime warranty. MBenzNL has these too and probably has the most mileage out of any of us. A majority of that mileage are on the Konis, and he has had excellent service from Koni when he does have problems, at least from my understanding. Not to say they break a lot, but in Steve's case he travels quite a lot, so any shock will fail eventually. It seems the Konis are a really good choice.

I don't recall seeing too many members with the Vogts though.

[FreeStyler]

but are koni's springs decent? i hear tons of good things about koni's shocks and all, but koni springs?

[kameraguy]

Oops, sorry. I am not familiar with Koni Springs. I didn't even know they made them :p

I don't recall ever reading any members had Koni Springs.

I know some people have the Vogt Springs. Haven't heard of any problems with them.

Most of us have stuck with the typical H&R spring set for lowering. Not to say it's the best, but it seems to be the most common.

[Ashkan's C280]

I have not tried other sets but I can say H&R and bilstein sports are very, very good.

[97C28O]

I want to lower my car aswell, but not right now. I would like to research it some more but I don't know anything about lowering your car. What are: Shocks, Coilovers, Springs and what are their purpose in suspension....

PICS WOULD HELP TOO :D

Sorry if this is off topic..

[marsbike]

I had koni springs on my integra before it met it's faitful demise...They were really good. Basically, they are eibach springs (made be eibach) that are painted and labeled as koni's. They're a very good spring rate, and do not sag at all.

[JonC43]

I did the setup you are mentioning. I got bought #4 pads, Vogtland Sport Springs, and Koni ext. adjustable shocks.

I kept them on for about a week. I think that the product is good, but I, however, had a bad experience.

The Konis would not adjust. They were always on full hard and a small bump would send me out of my seat. Turning the knob would not change anything.

After dealing with Koni and their "lifetime warranty", I am out about $2K. I paid to get the parts installed and then taken out.

Koni offered only to replace the shocks if their people determined them to be faulty. In order to do that, they would send me another set of shocks at half price (I would have to pay more money!) until they either found the shocks faulty (and reversed the charge) or found them to be ok (and left the charge as it was).

I did not have any more money to spend on this project even if I had new shocks so I just took the loss.

By the way, there is more to changing your shocks and springs.
1. My dealer refused to touch my car
2. No one could or would align my car
3. You need a camber kit to keep your tires from prematurely wearing out

All in all, some people have GREAT experiences with this setup. I just want you to throw a little caution to the wind.

[Denlasoul]

That is very odd that the Dealer would not touch your car. I have taken my 43 in numerous times and they never even thougt twice. I guess service is different across the country.

As fo alignment, you may also be better off taking it to an alignment specialist. They would be more familar with handling the changes in a lowered car, plus they typically have dealer specs for the alignment,

Lastly, whenever you lower the car you will have consequences like unven tire wear and camber. There are ways to help alleviate them, but regardless you car will wear faster than a stock, non-lowered car.

[KWiK]

The springs in the Koni kit are made by Vogtland.

[REMUS]

The KONI springs sounds pretty good and for the price you can't really beat it. I was going too buy SChatz lowering springs with bilstein shocks(any better?). The H+R springs seem they will lower the car a bit more and maybe last longer..