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pmemo
05-19-2006, 12:12 AM
I have 99 C280 and 19" Carlsson 1/6 Evo. But I don't have the hub centric rings. Anyone knows what size rings I should buy? Any good place to buy those? I assume the outer dimension is 74.01 but don't know the inner dimension. If anybody have answers, please let me know.
Thank you.

NEA-4311
05-19-2006, 06:50 AM
Its 66.6 .

pmemo
05-19-2006, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by NEA-4311
Its 66.6 .
I assume it's inner diameter. I had 3 of 74.10x66.01 rings that came with the rims. But the guy in the rim shop said those are not fit to my car because inner diameter is little bit big. Is it supposed to fit tight in both inner and outer of the ring?

NEA-4311
05-19-2006, 11:19 AM
All mercedes cars including the W202 have Bore 66.6. You will be able to find those rings in any wheel shop, just go and ask them about it, they will know.:)

aintME
05-19-2006, 04:28 PM
a few questions:

what car did these wheels come off of?
what are the widths/offsets?
have you tried bolting the wheels on with out the rings?

NEA-4311
05-19-2006, 05:24 PM
Not sure about your rims, Im on 18x8.5J all around, 35 offset. You can bolt the wheels without the rings but your car is gonna wobble at high speeds and this IS dangerous and NOT a good idea. Thatswhy the rings should fit exactly on, in the first place. You need to have one of your wheels with you so they will be able to fit it on your car with the ring and give you 3 more when you find the right size. Thats what I was gonna do. Its something every decent wheelshop should have, I dont think they are rare or something. My wheels are universal fit and the rings that went with the wheels werent the right ones so when I got them from the post to take them to be fitted and realised that, the quys just gave me another size, the right one. Have you asked around?

aintME
05-19-2006, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by NEA-4311
My wheels are universal fit and the rings that went with the wheels werent the right ones so when I got them from the post to take them to be fitted and realised that, the quys just gave me another size, the right one. Have you asked around?

i believe all of the carlsson wheels in a 5x112 bolt pattern are made specifically for MBs. i'm thinking the hubentric rings that came with the wheels were used to fit the wheels onto another car (maybe an audi). Correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not 100% sure, but the only variances between the recent MB passenger cars is offset and bolt diameter?

NEA-4311
05-19-2006, 06:22 PM
C W203 also has the same offsets, (35 to 42) as C W202 and most mercedes models, apart from the SL R129 (20), the CL W215 (35 to 45), the A (45 to 50) and the V W108 (50) Classes. Remember: The lower the number, the wider the rim.

About the bolts, Im pretty sure the rim determines the lenght.

aintME
05-19-2006, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by NEA-4311
C W203 also has the same offsets, (35 to 42) as C W202 and most mercedes models, apart from the SL R129 (20), the CL W215 (35 to 45), the A (45 to 50) and the V W108 (50) Classes. Remember: The lower the number, the wider the rim.

About the bolts, Im pretty sure the rim determines the lenght.


btw, my original questions were directed towards the OP. im not sure if ET relates to wheel width. the lower the offset, the closer the wheel gets to the fender. the higher the offset, the further in the wheel sits in. bolt diameter = thickness of the bolts. for example, a 211 uses 14mm diameter bolts, a 202 uses 12mm diameter bolts.

i can see how a universal set of wheels might require a hubcentric ring. but, i dont recall ever needing such a ring for my sets of carlssons :Ponder:

NEA-4311
05-19-2006, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by aintME
btw, my original questions were directed towards the OP. im not sure if ET relates to wheel width. the lower the offset, the closer the wheel gets to the fender. the higher the offset, the further in the wheel sits in. bolt diameter = thickness of the bolts. for example, a 211 uses 14mm diameter bolts, a 202 uses 12mm diameter bolts.

exactly. And ET is the Offset, yes. About the Carlssons needing a ring, keep in mind that that was the original question so I assumed that they needed. I dont even know if he tried them on! :D

pmemo
05-19-2006, 08:47 PM
The offset is 40mm and rim width is 8.5". The rims are on my car with 235/35/19 tires. Of course, I feel wobble in over 50 miles speed. I definately need the rings. If anyone know the exact size and places to get those, please let me know. I checked most of tire/rim shops but no lucks yet.
Thank you for your help.

solodough
05-19-2006, 10:16 PM
were they balanced correctly as well?

benzdude280
05-22-2006, 02:53 PM
I have hubcentric rings that I have from my previous rims. If you want them let me know. They seem to be only about a couple millimeters thick.

pmemo
05-22-2006, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by benzdude280
I have hubcentric rings that I have from my previous rims. If you want them let me know. They seem to be only about a couple millimeters thick.

Can you tell me the size of the rings?

Proven Guilty
05-22-2006, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by pmemo
The offset is 40mm and rim width is 8.5". The rims are on my car with 235/35/19 tires. Of course, I feel wobble in over 50 miles speed. I definately need the rings. If anyone know the exact size and places to get those, please let me know. I checked most of tire/rim shops but no lucks yet.
Thank you for your help.

like solodough said, it's possible the wobble could be attributed to other things.

if the hubcentric spacers don't seem to do the trick, i would consider the following areas to troubleshoot:

-check the wheels to see if any of the balancing weights came off
-check the wheel bearings for side-to-side play
-inspect the rims (lip bends etc to indicate possible damaged rim)
-balljoints and bushing sound?
-possibly defective tires (if new, has happened to me) or likely bad tires (if used, or more than 12k miles on them) such as broken belts.

hope it all works out for you!

benzdude280
05-23-2006, 02:36 PM
the inside diameter is approximately 67mm and the outside is 68mm. So it's only about a millimeter that you are gaining. If this helps let me know.