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whitec230k
06-26-2006, 07:17 AM
ok so basically the kit that i have uses only one lead from the headlight so the other one is free so therefore the car thinks that i have a burnt out light bulb.

I have a way to install these in a different way by using both the leads but I want to know if it will work? Is it safe?

The current system i have uses a seperate relay.



How i have it set up CURRENTLY:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1838/hwoitisritenow6hd.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwoitisritenow6hd.jpg)

How i WANT to set it up:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1315/wnattodothis4ps.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wnattodothis4ps.jpg)

THANKS ALL!

irieite
06-26-2006, 08:10 AM
I'd leave the relay in. Why can't you just wire both the left and right H7 leads to the relay? They're both +12v when turned on.

whitec230k
06-26-2006, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by irieite
I'd leave the relay in. Why can't you just wire both the left and right H7 leads to the relay? They're both +12v when turned on.

The relay only requires 1 lead.

Or do you mean connect them both together?

irieite
06-26-2006, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by whitec230k
The relay only requires 1 lead.

Or do you mean connect them both together?

Yeah. I don't see why that wouldn't work.

2phast
06-26-2006, 02:04 PM
If you change from Halogen to HID, you need to have your system reprogrammed for HID, MB can do this for you, believe its done through the Star Diagnostics system. This will get rid of the bulb out light.

whitec230k
06-26-2006, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by irieite
Yeah. I don't see why that wouldn't work.

im not a electrical expert but if i connect two 12V together into one 12V inlet, wouldn't that double the voltage or the current? Also wouldn't this create a short?

martattack
06-26-2006, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by whitec230k
ok so basically the kit that i have uses only one lead from the headlight so the other one is free so therefore the car thinks that i have a burnt out light bulb.

I have a way to install these in a different way by using both the leads but I want to know if it will work? Is it safe?

The current system i have uses a seperate relay.



How i have it set up CURRENTLY:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1838/hwoitisritenow6hd.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwoitisritenow6hd.jpg)

How i WANT to set it up:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1315/wnattodothis4ps.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wnattodothis4ps.jpg)

THANKS ALL!


What is the current draw of the HID ballasts? If it's less than the original bulb, then you probably don't need a relay and could run the second setup.

strictlyspeakin
06-26-2006, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by whitec230k
im not a electrical expert but if i connect two 12V together into one 12V inlet, wouldn't that double the voltage or the current? Also wouldn't this create a short?


No to all three.

(2) 12V+ wires into (1) 12V+ does not double the voltage. You would need to connect (2) 12V batteries up in series in order to gain 24V. Definitely not a good idea in your car. ;)

Current is usually defined by the consumer not the wiring. The heavier the gauge wire it is the more capacity it has to allow current to go thru it, however it is the light that will determine how much current will try to come thru. Since electricity will take the path of least resistance, I doubt that running 2 seperate wires to the same post will help to increase the overall current capacity.

A short would only happen if a ground was introduced into the + side of the circuit.

Hope that helps.

:cool:

irieite
06-27-2006, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by whitec230k
im not a electrical expert but if i connect two 12V together into one 12V inlet, wouldn't that double the voltage or the current? Also wouldn't this create a short?

As strictlyspeakin said, it won't double the voltage if you connect the two +12v wires together. It will also NOT create a short. Give it a try and see if it solves your problem.

EDM6VIP
12-13-2006, 12:28 PM
don't take the relay off, i just installed my relay because i used to running hid with out it (the problem) is everytime i turn the hid's my clock resets.... (everytime!) so i put a relay, it doesnt reset anymore (but) my "lights out" indicator is on.

I'm thinking of running left and right relay (individually) twice the work, wirings,time, but result will solve the "lights out" indicator for sure....

just too lazy....(me)

the easiest way i can think of is to take off the "light out" indicator bulbs from the cluster... !!!

i'll take mine of instead doesn't bother me, because all it is.... is a indicator, you can always look at your lights if they're blown. doesn't take a genious...


if it's too late and you got a ticket for blown bulbs and not knowing it?... oh well just a fixing ticket. !

Markland556
12-24-2006, 04:51 PM
if you guys wanna solve this just find out what the resistance is for the origional bulb and then just red a resistor the same size rated at about 5 watts and just hook that to the positive and negative wires... But if you wanna be smart just get another relay and keep the HID systems seperate, then each healight wire would controll one headlight.

EDM6VIP
12-25-2006, 09:39 AM
i like your info there, so you basically saying have [ 2 ] relays for the ballast (individual relays) i have a couple of relays maybe i can do that... but it would be twice the wires...