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    Wicked! Looks great in black...Now dont knock it all off when you install^^...small bits of carpet are key!

    It could be pretty loud!...I had that exact setup with another muffler in the middle and found it a tad loud in the cabin!...but i know your tastes.....



    Is there a feed for cooling for the turbo too?
    As Ross said,use the drain plug to supply the coolant for the turbo,but remember your creating a parallell path to the original,so where you return the coolant matters...IMO the closer to to the inlets of the pump the better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagz View Post
    Wicked! Looks great in black...Now dont knock it all off when you install^^...small bits of carpet are key!

    It could be pretty loud!...I had that exact setup with another muffler in the middle and found it a tad loud in the cabin!...but i know your tastes.....




    As Ross said,use the drain plug to supply the coolant for the turbo,but remember your creating a parallell path to the original,so where you return the coolant matters...IMO the closer to to the inlets of the pump the better!
    I just put the front section in and mid section in today. need to fit the rear section in and mark it for tip location. then get those welded on.
    good tip with the carpet.. I used a large piece of cardboard.. worked too!
    hmm.. you have me worried its going to be loud!! I dont want a recreation of when I had my Eisenmann race muffler on.. I got pulled over all the time for that being "too loud"! we shall see how it sounds first as is.. if I dont like it then I will have to add in a resonator. he he.. I like it loud.. but I want to be a bit more stealth then I used to be in my w202!! I want to be able to hear it.. but not hear it from 2km away!!
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    The turbo is going to muffle the exhaust somewhat, but don't rely on it.
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    The turbine will knock it back but It will be fairly loud outside the car for sure... It will be the drone inside which gets to you!...I put money on centre mufflers shortly^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by zmatt View Post
    The turbo is going to muffle the exhaust somewhat, but don't rely on it.
    I think it will muffle a lot of the noise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pagz View Post
    The turbine will knock it back but It will be fairly loud outside the car for sure... It will be the drone inside which gets to you!...I put money on centre mufflers shortly^^
    The only reason I say that the turbo will muffle a lot of the noise is because my buddies brother has a MK2 golf with a VR6 swap and a GT40 turbo.. he is running a side pipe (as its a drag car) no muffler or anything.. its not as loud as you would think for a car running a short pipe out of the side of the car.
    I know it will be loud running, no cat in my car, 3" pipe from the turbo to the muffler and a straight through muffler.. it will be loud.. but I bet not as loud as my Eisenmann was! if its too loud.. then Paul will be right and I will be putting in a resonator! who's taking bets?!
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    Yeh i bet the eisenmann was loud,my first exhaust was a 2.5" straight through system on the original 230k setup...it was much louder than the turbo setup with 3". You will likey be ok with the outside noise...but if the drone gives you a headach it'll need centres!
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    An update for everyone.
    I got my Aluminum parts back from the welders earlier in the week. got a few flicks to share- they will follow.
    I am still waiting on my Samco hose order.. taken a lot longer than I was ever expecting.. I think I am at about 8 weeks now.. maybe longer. They are waiting for another order to be shipped out from the U.K. so I am still waiting on 2 more hoses, the ones they have, I have asked them to ship them out to me so I can hopefully get some of these parts in my car.
    I have a couple things that I can do over this weekend. so I will work on what I can until the Samco order gets here.
    Here are the Aluminum parts I had welded up, parts pictured are my boost pipe with 50mm BOV flange and custom integrated MAS, intake manifold with welded up inlet I wont be using, intercooler brackets, turbo air filter/inlet pipe with welded bung, coolant pipes, liquid intercooler "t" piece:





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    *1999 C230K Turbo* Track Car
    --18" SL55 AMG's--KW V2 Suspension--SLK55 Front and Rear Brake--Wiechers Braces--Custom GT28 Turbo--Custom 3" Exhaust--68mm Throttle body--450cc Injectors--Custom Intake Manifold--Custom liquid to air intercooler--C36 Rear--Brabus Front--

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    looking good cant wait to see it in the car and setup
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    A few more pics of progress. waiting for 2 more samco hoses that didnt make the last shipment, need to get 2 aluminum parts welded, need to get the tips welded onto the muffler still. most other things are getting finished up as the weeks go on.

    Engine bay shot:


    Custom coolant pipes and intercooler mounted:




    Intake manifold mounted:


    Turbo shot:


    Heat exchanger and intercooler pump:

    *2002 E320 4Matic Wagon* Daily
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    Lots Coming—3 piece 18" AMG Aero II—Custom Bags—Wide Fenders—W210 E55 Engine Swap with 4matic—

    *1999 C230K Turbo* Track Car
    --18" SL55 AMG's--KW V2 Suspension--SLK55 Front and Rear Brake--Wiechers Braces--Custom GT28 Turbo--Custom 3" Exhaust--68mm Throttle body--450cc Injectors--Custom Intake Manifold--Custom liquid to air intercooler--C36 Rear--Brabus Front--

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    I cant stop staring at your engine. it's beautiful.
    Completely mad.
    '99 C230K, intake and exhaust more on the way.
    '86 MKIV Escort RS Turbo, stock for now, chip and more boost on the way
    '75 Fiat 124 Spider, koni shocks, bigger carb and drilled/slotted brakes
    to tune and hoon the mbz master race.

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    sweet jesus thats beautiful.

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    How much in total did this whole project cost you? Very nice!
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    Hey Dude,
    Looks great!,Always good to see it coming together!!..any more word on what you will do with the ECU?

    Using that larger port for the brake vac line turned out nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yujin View Post
    How much in total did this whole project cost you? Very nice!
    Not sure yet as I'm not finished! but I bet in the 5-7000 range.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pagz View Post
    Hey Dude,
    Looks great!,Always good to see it coming together!!..any more word on what you will do with the ECU?

    Using that larger port for the brake vac line turned out nice!
    still at a stand still as I'm waiting on 2 more samco hoses.. great hoses.. but it takes for freakin ever to get them from the uk.
    I'm getting there! so much for driving it this year I think.
    not too certain what band.. but for sure still going with stand alone. for now, just keep my stock ecu with the upsolute tune. should run fine on 10psi of boost.
    yeh that brake booster vac line worked out great.. fits perfectly.
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    *1999 C230K Turbo* Track Car
    --18" SL55 AMG's--KW V2 Suspension--SLK55 Front and Rear Brake--Wiechers Braces--Custom GT28 Turbo--Custom 3" Exhaust--68mm Throttle body--450cc Injectors--Custom Intake Manifold--Custom liquid to air intercooler--C36 Rear--Brabus Front--

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    Slammed, does upsolute also do custom tunes or are you just using their canned 220hp tune?
    Completely mad.
    '99 C230K, intake and exhaust more on the way.
    '86 MKIV Escort RS Turbo, stock for now, chip and more boost on the way
    '75 Fiat 124 Spider, koni shocks, bigger carb and drilled/slotted brakes
    to tune and hoon the mbz master race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmatt View Post
    Slammed, does upsolute also do custom tunes or are you just using their canned 220hp tune?
    My tune was somewhat custom. for sure depending on what mods you have they can customize the tune.
    *2002 E320 4Matic Wagon* Daily
    --Not lowered—18" Alphards—Stock exhaust.
    Lots Coming—3 piece 18" AMG Aero II—Custom Bags—Wide Fenders—W210 E55 Engine Swap with 4matic—

    *1999 C230K Turbo* Track Car
    --18" SL55 AMG's--KW V2 Suspension--SLK55 Front and Rear Brake--Wiechers Braces--Custom GT28 Turbo--Custom 3" Exhaust--68mm Throttle body--450cc Injectors--Custom Intake Manifold--Custom liquid to air intercooler--C36 Rear--Brabus Front--

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    awesome. I was looking at their site and they seem to be a better deal than powerchip. how much does it cost to have a custom one done? And how do they go about the process of making the tune? Do they send you a wideband and a data logger or what?
    Completely mad.
    '99 C230K, intake and exhaust more on the way.
    '86 MKIV Escort RS Turbo, stock for now, chip and more boost on the way
    '75 Fiat 124 Spider, koni shocks, bigger carb and drilled/slotted brakes
    to tune and hoon the mbz master race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmatt View Post
    awesome. I was looking at their site and they seem to be a better deal than powerchip. how much does it cost to have a custom one done? And how do they go about the process of making the tune? Do they send you a wideband and a data logger or what?
    The cost was the same as the normal Tune, they just tweeked the stock Upsolute tune to accomodate the mods I had on my car.
    as for tuning, they will need to download the stock program from the ECU, make the modifications to the tue and then flash the computer with the new tune.
    no data logging or wideband required.
    *2002 E320 4Matic Wagon* Daily
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    Lots Coming—3 piece 18" AMG Aero II—Custom Bags—Wide Fenders—W210 E55 Engine Swap with 4matic—

    *1999 C230K Turbo* Track Car
    --18" SL55 AMG's--KW V2 Suspension--SLK55 Front and Rear Brake--Wiechers Braces--Custom GT28 Turbo--Custom 3" Exhaust--68mm Throttle body--450cc Injectors--Custom Intake Manifold--Custom liquid to air intercooler--C36 Rear--Brabus Front--

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    sweet. I may be able to reach 300hp with boltons then, depending on how good their tune is, but they get 220hp and 251lbs of torque without any other mods so it's promising.
    Completely mad.
    '99 C230K, intake and exhaust more on the way.
    '86 MKIV Escort RS Turbo, stock for now, chip and more boost on the way
    '75 Fiat 124 Spider, koni shocks, bigger carb and drilled/slotted brakes
    to tune and hoon the mbz master race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmatt View Post
    sweet. I may be able to reach 300hp with boltons then, depending on how good their tune is, but they get 220hp and 251lbs of torque without any other mods so it's promising.
    I honestly dont think you will be able to reach 300hp with the stock supercharger. with all the mods I did to my car (when it was supercharged) the best I could do was just under 200hp to the wheels and just over 200ft lbs of torque to the wheels. so for you to reach 300 (even at the engine), you my friend have a tall order ahead of you!
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    *1999 C230K Turbo* Track Car
    --18" SL55 AMG's--KW V2 Suspension--SLK55 Front and Rear Brake--Wiechers Braces--Custom GT28 Turbo--Custom 3" Exhaust--68mm Throttle body--450cc Injectors--Custom Intake Manifold--Custom liquid to air intercooler--C36 Rear--Brabus Front--

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    what did you do to your car? all the mods on the world are no good without a good tune to take advantage of it.
    Completely mad.
    '99 C230K, intake and exhaust more on the way.
    '86 MKIV Escort RS Turbo, stock for now, chip and more boost on the way
    '75 Fiat 124 Spider, koni shocks, bigger carb and drilled/slotted brakes
    to tune and hoon the mbz master race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmatt View Post
    what did you do to your car? all the mods on the world are no good without a good tune to take advantage of it.
    Custom intake, custom supercharger inlet, custom supercharger exit, custom boost pipe, ported supercharger inlet, supersprint header, custom 2.5" SS exhaust system with high flow cat and eisenmann race muffler. and the custom upsolute tune.
    next thing I would have done would have been cams, larger intercooler but I decided to go turbo instead.
    I agree, a tune is very important.
    other things you can do, head work- port and polish, enlargen displacement to 2.6L, balance and blueprint, but these are big money items. I'm not saying you cant do it, but it will be difficult to do and be very expensive as well.
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    Lots Coming—3 piece 18" AMG Aero II—Custom Bags—Wide Fenders—W210 E55 Engine Swap with 4matic—

    *1999 C230K Turbo* Track Car
    --18" SL55 AMG's--KW V2 Suspension--SLK55 Front and Rear Brake--Wiechers Braces--Custom GT28 Turbo--Custom 3" Exhaust--68mm Throttle body--450cc Injectors--Custom Intake Manifold--Custom liquid to air intercooler--C36 Rear--Brabus Front--

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    how were you going to get 2.6L? Is there a longer stroke crank we can pull from another engine or where you going to overbore? Also, any idea how much power you were making? If I am at all overly optimistic on my numbers, by all means bring it back down to earth.
    Completely mad.
    '99 C230K, intake and exhaust more on the way.
    '86 MKIV Escort RS Turbo, stock for now, chip and more boost on the way
    '75 Fiat 124 Spider, koni shocks, bigger carb and drilled/slotted brakes
    to tune and hoon the mbz master race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmatt View Post
    how were you going to get 2.6L? Is there a longer stroke crank we can pull from another engine or where you going to overbore? Also, any idea how much power you were making? If I am at all overly optimistic on my numbers, by all means bring it back down to earth.
    Overbore. I was making almost 200hp to the wheels and just over 200ft lbs of torque.
    I had a buddt that had a 2002 C230K coupe (w203) with the same engine as us, well the slightly newer version (different supercharger, 4 individual coils...) he sent his engine to brabus, they did a balance and blueprint, stroked the engine to 2.6L, port matching, port and polished the head, custom supercharger (crank) pulley, custom brabus cams.. he was putting down 278hp to th wheels.. that car flew it was so fast! but that brabus conversion was also like $30,000!!
    your numbers arent rediculous.. they are just difficult to attain. you will not do it with the stock charger I will tell you that much.
    *2002 E320 4Matic Wagon* Daily
    --Not lowered—18" Alphards—Stock exhaust.
    Lots Coming—3 piece 18" AMG Aero II—Custom Bags—Wide Fenders—W210 E55 Engine Swap with 4matic—

    *1999 C230K Turbo* Track Car
    --18" SL55 AMG's--KW V2 Suspension--SLK55 Front and Rear Brake--Wiechers Braces--Custom GT28 Turbo--Custom 3" Exhaust--68mm Throttle body--450cc Injectors--Custom Intake Manifold--Custom liquid to air intercooler--C36 Rear--Brabus Front--

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    Oh no way. I was debating whether to get an m90 or turbo. The m90 is only slightly larger in dimensions but much more powerful than the M45 so putting one in shouldn't be hard. But i dunno if its too much blower. Any idea how parasitic an m90 is? I think that getting a bigger blower is easier fab wise than going turbo. less to mess with.
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    Completely mad.
    '99 C230K, intake and exhaust more on the way.
    '86 MKIV Escort RS Turbo, stock for now, chip and more boost on the way
    '75 Fiat 124 Spider, koni shocks, bigger carb and drilled/slotted brakes
    to tune and hoon the mbz master race.

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