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    I left the lights on again, note to self you cant get in the car with out the battery

    You going to laugh at me after reading this;

    I am in canada and the running lights automatically turn on when i put the car in drive

    My question is on all my other cars the lights can be set on so they come on when it gets dark, dose my car have this and i am just an idiot,

    Reason being i have left the lights on twice now and came out to a dead battery its not so fun when its minus 20 and you have to crawl through you trunk of the car infront of all your business student friends

    I know there are kits for bmw's to allow auto full lights when it get darks


    HELP ????

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    1. you cannot take out the key when the gear is on D
    2. When you want to take out the key and the light is on, there will be annoying sound to remind you.

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    yah but when your in a rush you dont hear the anoying sound, so i guess it dose not have automatic lights ?

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    nope.... w202s dont have no LDRs that make the lights turn on or off..nor any other 21st century sh** in them...

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    wait...so why weren't you able to use the key to open the doors?
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    My car has a garage door opener and some other things that just started to appear on my maxima and jeep in early 2001

    like i said it was minus 20 really cold out but the key would not turn in the passanger door, I just happend to leave the trunk unlock I think I dont know maybe the door was iced

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    Originally posted by pnsji
    1. you cannot take out the key when the gear is on D
    2. When you want to take out the key and the light is on, there will be annoying sound to remind you.


    Exactly

    and since your car is 1997 C280, you will NOT ABLE to pull the key from the ignition if your gear selector not in P

    DRL does not requires you to switch on the headlight, rather than the headlight will come on automatically as soon as you depress the brake pedal and move the gear level away from the P

    so that's why I am a little confused how the DRL stay on unless you turned the healight switched on



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    Man...the Irwans are like crime investigators! Those be some solid facts!

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    exactly I left the head lights on , the switch was on, on the dashboard is there an auto setting ?


    on my other cars you set it to auto and the lights come on and turn of when it gets light and dark out automatically then you dont have to switch the lights on or off they are automatic on my other cars

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    Originally posted by Andrew C280
    exactly I left the head lights on , the switch was on, on the dashboard is there an auto setting ?


    on my other cars you set it to auto and the lights come on and turn of when it gets light and dark out automatically then you dont have to switch the lights on or off they are automatic on my other cars

    okay

    if you have to manual switch on and off on your car that means you car DOES NOT have DRL system in place.

    if you have DRL system in place, the light will be switched on automatically as soon as you start the car AND depress the brake pedal AND move the gear lever away from P...
    and the light will be automically swithed off as soon as you put the gear lever in P

    Although some manual car has the light trigger switch on e-brake (when the ebrake is engaged the light is off, when ebrake is disengaged the light is on)..


    If you do a search there is another member on this forum that is trying to put DRL relay on his car..

    hopefully that can help you.

    otherwise since it is law to have headlight on in Canada on daylight, you just have to make it a habit to always switch on as soon as you get in the car, and always switch off before opening the door.. (the same habit, when you drive manual car, to always engaged the parking brake no matter where you park -even when parking on flat surface)




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    I'm confused also

    My understanding of DRL is that only the headlights come on (not the tail lights) and that they usually run at 50% brightness. Their only legitamate use is for use during the daytime (unless you are a DNR officer and you want to try to sheek up on some poachers late at night and don't want bright headlifghts and your tail lights to give you away).

    If it is nightime, you will still need to turn your headlights on for your tailingts to come on (so you don't get hit from behind) and so that your head lights run at 100% (so you don't hit something in front of you).

    If you have turned on your headlights via the amazing MB headlight/parking lights/left or right corner lights for parking on darks streets in Europe/foglight/rear-foglight switch, and you jump out quickly, without realizing the realy annoying headlight relay switch is making it's realy anoying noise, then if you come back to your car, hours later in -20C weather, then you have a bad night.

    What am I missing?
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    Hey this is not related but does any one know how to make the Parking corner lights not shine when the headlights are on? I think J Irwan did this?

    You know, when you turn on your headlights the Corner lights turn on too, is there a way to have the headlights on and the corner lights not on, only when u hit the blinker?

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    Re: I'm confused also

    Originally posted by sph17
    My understanding of DRL is that only the headlights come on (not the tail lights) and that they usually run at 50% brightness. Their only legitamate use is for use during the daytime (unless you are a DNR officer and you want to try to sheek up on some poachers late at night and don't want bright headlifghts and your tail lights to give you away).

    If it is nightime, you will still need to turn your headlights on for your tailingts to come on (so you don't get hit from behind) and so that your head lights run at 100% (so you don't hit something in front of you).

    If you have turned on your headlights via the amazing MB headlight/parking lights/left or right corner lights for parking on darks streets in Europe/foglight/rear-foglight switch, and you jump out quickly, without realizing the realy annoying headlight relay switch is making it's realy anoying noise, then if you come back to your car, hours later in -20C weather, then you have a bad night.

    What am I missing?

    I understand what you saying fully, I know my car has that DLR switch, because when you dont use the dash switch the light come on but as you said it only turn on 50% of the lights, then you need to turn on the additonal lights and because of the blowing snow I activated my fog lights and everthing for beter visibility, yah its good and great but if you leave the car with the switch on the battery is going to drain it took 1 hour for it to drain totally

    you think with all the engineering that goes into these cars they could have an auto setting or a thing that says after the key has been out for 15 min it shuts off all lights, the other thing that is weird about these cars is that you can use the radio even when there are no keys in the car all it has to do is be unlocked
    anyone else see this ?


    At least one person see my problem I hear you man, maybe you could help me explain this, maybe i am not getting the message through

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    Hey maybe they could make the beeper louder, or a sexy ladies voice to get my attention !

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    Re: Re: I'm confused also

    Originally posted by Andrew C280
    I understand what you saying fully, I know my car has that DLR switch, because when you dont use the dash switch the light come on but as you said it only turn on 50% of the lights,...

    you think with all the engineering that goes into these cars they could have an auto setting or a thing that says after the key has been out for 15 min it shuts off all lights, the other thing that is weird about these cars is that you can use the radio even when there are no keys in the car all it has to do is be unlocked
    anyone else see this ?

    At least one person see my problem I hear you man, maybe you could help me explain this, maybe i am not getting the message through
    Well the new and improved W203 has an Automatic position on the amazing all purpose MB Headlight Switch. You just leave the switch in the Automatic position and the car decides if you need to have your headlights turned off and on for you. The car even turn your lights off for you when you turn off the car if it is in the Automatic position.

    You also get Electric Window Switches that look like they came out of a Jetta and a steel wheel with your spare tire.
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    I though you mentioned that you don't have automatic switch

    hence you have to manually switch on and off..???


    what sph17 was talking about is the actual DRL at work, like I said when you have the system inplace on your car, there would be addiitional setting on the light switch you can select.
    Therefore the light will be automatically switch on and off.

    Am I missing something here..??



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    Re: Re: I'm confused also

    Originally posted by Andrew C280
    the other thing that is weird about these cars is that you can use the radio even when there are no keys in the car all it has to do is be unlocked
    anyone else see this ?
    yeah it's a feature of all contemporary m/b factory radios, and becker radios in general, also some blaupunkt units... personally I like this very much... also radio turns itself off after 1hr if the key is not in ignition....
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    The radio and the REST function of the AC don't need a key. I use the rest function on road trips a lot. BTW, it is mentioned in the manual. There is actually some good info hiding in it.
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    Yes I have the switch on the shifter, what is the setting for automatic lights or go i need to do some modifcations ?

    I think the residual engine heat is awesome first car i know that has that.

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    Andrew is talking about auto on lights available on other cars. Where you set it to auto and when the sensor on the dash figures out its dark out it turns on the lights, at full power, automatically. It is not to be confused with DRL.

    The 202 as you discovered does not have this function. I am not aware of any kit that you can install to have this feature. You can if you wish re wire your main headlights to be only on when there is actual power to the car so that even if you forget to turn off your lights when you shut of your car your main headlights will shut off and your parking lights will remain on, ala VW. All it will take is a multimeter, more wires and a crude understanding on 202 headlight wires.

    Best of luck and next time look back at your car before you leave it to make sure you turn off your headlights
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    Originally posted by Renn 208
    wait...so why weren't you able to use the key to open the doors?
    When the battery is dead, nothing to power the vaccum...


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    Vaccum?

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    When the battery is dead, nothing to power the vaccum...
    I know my W123 door locks runs off vacuum and have a vacuum canister in the trunk. My doors will still open with a dead battery, but not if you used up the vacuum by opening them 4-5 times.

    I was under the impression the W202 door locks were electric, and with a dead battery, would not run. Am I mistaken?
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    Isn't there a mechanical linkage in the driver's door lock so you can get inside if the battery is dead?

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    Originally posted by Brabus
    When the battery is dead, nothing to power the vaccum...

    even with no battery attach to the car

    you should be able to use the key to manually to open the door

    I know so, I've done it




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    Originally posted by BoominVolvo
    Isn't there a mechanical linkage in the driver's door lock so you can get inside if the battery is dead?
    If it's a 97, the driver's door only has IR, no mechanical lock. But the front passenger and trunk still have mechanical locks. Those will always allow you access with the key....

    But Andrew said he couldn't get in that way as the locks were frozen.....stupid cold weather...d'oh!!

    I would definitely suggest one of those lock de-icers for your keychain. It would definitely save you from not being able to open a lock due to ice. That way you won't have to crawl in through a trunk which was fortunately left unlocked....which is wierd because isn't it part of the central locking? I would think it should have been locked too. But anyway, good thing you also had the rear seats unlocked to get into the cabin!!! Overall you lucked out big time!

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