Camber Adjustment For 'rear' Of 202

CKlasse · 07-06-2003, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by speedybenz
CKlass,

I was going to put them on but decided against it. I know there would be several degrees of camber adjustment if they were on.

I am positive that you could start with -2 degrees camber and adjust the wheels to 0 camber.

But I am looking into Metric Rod ends and Metric tie rods so I could make sets of these so they will just fit right up.

I have a quote on metirc heim joint rod ends, now I just need to find the tie rods.

Jeff

Jeff, if you found the metric joint rod ends.. you can combine it with the benzboy tie rod. I am sure they fit right in. BTW if you do find these metric ball joint... I am interested in replacing few of the woren out OEM ball joint. So far no luck on metric sizes.

**speedybenz** · 07-06-2003, 04:12 PM

CKlass,

The threads on the metric rod ends would not fit into the SAE threaded Benzboy tie rods

But I think I might have found a source for both.

Jeff

**714guy** · 07-06-2003, 04:23 PM

whats the differents between metric rods and SAE, is it just better fitment or something else??

thanks for fill me in

jason

**Rocky** · 07-06-2003, 05:45 PM

Speedy, i'll front up some cash if you can make me a set if it works out.

**speedybenz** · 07-06-2003, 09:05 PM

714,

Bolts, threads here is the USA are based on a diameter of so many inches and so many threads per inch. Such a bolt could be a 3/8" bolt with 24 threads per inch.

Metric bolts, threads are based on a diameter of so many milimeters and so many milimeters per thread pitch. A common metric bolt, say your brake calipers bolts would be 12mm diameter with 1.5 milimeter per thread pitch.

Rocky,

When I find a good, dependable manufacturer of the parts we need then I will let the people interested know what the parts cost are and the time frame to get the items fabricated.

Until then I would not want any deposit for parts costs. And I know you do not know me from Adam, but what I design will be a simple bolt up item that should allow several degrees of camber adjustment.

Jeff

Jeff

**Rocky** · 07-07-2003, 06:18 AM

Jeff, no worries, I trust most of the people on this board. Let me know if you need anything..i'll try my bestest.

**J Irwan** · 08-01-2003, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by speedybenz
714,

Bolts, threads here is the USA are based on a diameter of so many inches and so many threads per inch. Such a bolt could be a 3/8" bolt with 24 threads per inch.

Metric bolts, threads are based on a diameter of so many milimeters and so many milimeters per thread pitch. A common metric bolt, say your brake calipers bolts would be 12mm diameter with 1.5 milimeter per thread pitch.

Rocky,

When I find a good, dependable manufacturer of the parts we need then I will let the people interested know what the parts cost are and the time frame to get the items fabricated.

Until then I would not want any deposit for parts costs. And I know you do not know me from Adam, but what I design will be a simple bolt up item that should allow several degrees of camber adjustment.

Jeff

Jeff

Jeff, any luck with these I am just wondering

Regardz,

**Rocky** · 08-01-2003, 08:56 PM

Awesome..i'll be first in line

**Three Point 6** · 08-02-2003, 07:07 AM

Sign me up too! I'm a little worried about my -2.2 out back. The hub carrier shim idea sounds like it'll work, but I want an easier solution that wont 'crush' or 'walk'.

CKlasse · 08-02-2003, 08:51 AM

I never actually installed the shims on the benz as I havent found my 'desired height' on the vehicle just yet. I am raising the car back up as soon as I could get my hand on a bay.

As far as camber correction, I might got with Jeff's original plan. Get a pair of benzboy w124 kit and drilled a larger hole on the upper arm. It seems to make more sense to me.

**speedybenz** · 08-06-2003, 01:13 PM

Alright, I just ordered the parts to make the Camber Arms.

Price will be about $250 a set and will use metric hardware, so it will not require that the stock mounts be ground larger.

The Rod Ends also are very high quality and are Teflon lined to self lubricate and reduce noise.

Please let me know if your interested in buying a set, so I know how many to make up.

Jeff

**Rocky** · 08-06-2003, 02:36 PM

I'm interested in a set for sure.

**MBATF** · 08-06-2003, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by speedybenz
Alright, I just ordered the parts to make the Camber Arms.

Price will be about $250 a set and will use metric hardware, so it will not require that the stock mounts be ground larger.

The Rod Ends also are very high quality and are Teflon lined to self lubricate and reduce noise.

Please let me know if your interested in buying a set, so I know how many to make up.

Jeff

Is this for teh Cambers front and back??? i m interesting at it. but i need little mor edetail of how much you it actually corrct?

**speedybenz** · 08-06-2003, 07:34 PM

MBATF,

The arms or links will be for the rear only. To do the front would require a redesign of the upper control arm and that is just a little too much work.

The rear camber links should allow adjustment of about 4 degrees both positive and negative.

So if your car now sits at a -2.2 degrees camber you would be able to adjust it to zero camber if you wanted.

The rod ends are high quality alloy steel, chrome plated with teflon bearing races to help movement and noise. To get the correct spacing to the stock mounts, stainless steel spacers will be machined to a close tolerance to provide a precision fit.

Jeff

**MBATF** · 08-06-2003, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by speedybenz
MBATF,

The arms or links will be for the rear only. To do the front would require a redesign of the upper control arm and that is just a little too much work.

The rear camber links should allow adjustment of about 4 degrees both positive and negative.

So if your car now sits at a -2.2 degrees camber you would be able to adjust it to zero camber if you wanted.

The rod ends are high quality alloy steel, chrome plated with teflon bearing races to help movement and noise. To get the correct spacing to the stock mounts, stainless steel spacers will be machined to a close tolerance to provide a precision fit.

Jeff

Thanks speedy benz, is there a limited time for us to purchas it from u? or it can be ordered any time? also, what can i do to correct teh front cambers? cuz now seem like the K-Mac kit will not correct to Zero completely...

CKlasse · 08-06-2003, 08:43 PM

Jeff,

Count me in for a pair. I have a 95 C220 if that matters. Are you still interested in a trade for a pair of Carbon Fiber laminated tips?

**speedybenz** · 08-07-2003, 09:01 AM

The Camber arms/links will take about 2 weeks maybe 3 to get the parts and machine the spacers-inserts.

There is no time limit now on buying these arms, but I would like a "show of hands" on how many sets to make.

Thanks,

Jeff

**jnolte** · 08-07-2003, 09:20 AM

Jeff

I may want one. I am not sure though. is installation hard or what???? What is it exactly that makes it fix the camber?? Could it adjust it to 0.00??

regards

J nolte

**moedigga** · 08-07-2003, 12:39 PM

Jeff,

You can count on myself wanting a set if you would put one together for me. I am putting my springs on next weekend and will take set as soon as you can have one ready. I dont want to be buying a set of tires every 3 months, Thanks-MOE

CKlasse · 08-07-2003, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by jnolte
Jeff

I may want one. I am not sure though. is installation hard or what???? What is it exactly that makes it fix the camber?? Could it adjust it to 0.00??

regards

J nolte

J Nolte,

I believe Jeff's camber kit is an adjustable upper links. If you see your rear suspension, there are 5 links. You could fix the camber angle by lengthen the upper link -- pivoting the wheel into 0 camber angle.

What I would be interested to know is what kind of joint will Jeff use in this kit.

**Rocky** · 08-07-2003, 04:34 PM

Jeff, you have a list of people yet? Make sure i'm on that list please hehehehe

**speedybenz** · 08-07-2003, 07:18 PM

Rocky,

Yes, you are on the list.

Jeff

**Rocky** · 08-08-2003, 05:13 AM

Woo hoo...being that i'm located in Toronto Canada (best place in the world), would that be a problem? Do you accept monopoly money? hahahaha

**speedybenz** · 08-17-2003, 05:54 AM

I am about 2 hours away from finishing up the first couple sets of cambers arms.

The only thing holding me back is installing my new brakes. More on that later.

The arms are "I must say myself, Way Bitch'in". Everything is sized to fit right in, just remove the old and slide in the new. All the spacers are Stainless Steel and will not rust or corrode.

Pics in a day or two.

Jeff

**speedybenz** · 08-19-2003, 10:17 PM

Below is the finished Camber Arm. The rod end inserts are drilled for use of stock metric hardware. The rod ends bearing race is a Kelvar-Teflon bonded material to provide a tight fitting bearing and to reduce noise. the inserts are stainless steel. The arm is DOM steel thats Cadnium plated for rust prevention.

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