wooohooooo its starting another c55 conversion : D

[knvs]

Thats right I just dropped off my car at the shop and I'll be picking it up next week when I get back from my trip and it'll have a new heart!!! Just in time for the sac meet later this month too. I'm so excited. Unfortunately there won't be pics, bc I'll be out of town and I'll have to wait a week to write a report on it.

[nokia8860]

Shoot if enough of you guys do this conversion we just might have to rename the site:

CLUB202 : Home of the C55 Monsters!

[Under Pressure]

So much for the hotness being forced induction. Maybe the two could meet on one of you guys.

[c55m8o]

Originally posted by knvs
Thats right I just dropped off my car at the shop and I'll be picking it up next week when I get back from my trip and it'll have a new heart!!! Just in time for the sac meet later this month too. I'm so excited. Unfortunately there won't be pics, bc I'll be out of town and I'll have to wait a week to write a report on it.

CONGRATS! Lemme know if you have any questions.

And I can't stress this enough ... make sure you get new motor mounts! (I still say go for the E55 mounts tho some here are skeptical there's a difference between them and the C43 mounts)

[c55m8o]

Originally posted by Under Pressure
So much for the hotness being forced induction. Maybe the two could meet on one of you guys.

...don't give up so quick ... The guy I was talking to about custom headers does 3 - 6 custom headers for turbo setups a week ... as the guy who installed my motor runs a turbo'ed C36, we were thinking hard Saturday 'bout where to put the turbo on the driver's side (passenger side's easy) as of course we'd want to go dual turbo...

...but enough of that ... I don't wanna jak knvs's thread. This is to be his holy place...

[J Irwan]

Originally posted by nokia8860
Shoot if enough of you guys do this conversion we just might have to rename the site:

CLUB202 : Home of the C55 Monsters!

ha..ha..

that is actually would be very interesting..

next thing you know W210 E55 will be so rare since many of them buchered to build W202 C55


Regardz,

[SpEeDy230]

Wow another conversion...makes me want to do one. But I have no Money.

[mbsickness]

Man we have to meet up again so I can check out this beast. Congrats! By the way which shop is doing the swap?

[r0csfinest]

Where did you get an engine from? How much hp does the engine have? 300? Thanks

[c55m8o]

Originally posted by r0csfinest Where did you get an engine from? How much hp does the engine have? 300? Thanks

There's a guy selling a few engines ... available under the classified forum.

@ the wheel hp ... yes. Follow my "old W210 E55s never die ..." link in my sig and go to the end of the thread.

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by c55m8o
CONGRATS! Lemme know if you have any questions.

And I can't stress this enough ... make sure you get new motor mounts! (I still say go for the E55 mounts tho some here are skeptical there's a difference between them and the C43 mounts)

The part #'s listed are totally different, so yes the internals of the E55 mounts are much stouter . The two mounts only appear to be the same externally.Steve is 100% correct.

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by knvs
Thats right I just dropped off my car at the shop and I'll be picking it up next week when I get back from my trip and it'll have a new heart!!! Just in time for the sac meet later this month too. I'm so excited. Unfortunately there won't be pics, bc I'll be out of town and I'll have to wait a week to write a report on it.

Congratulations!Enjoy the new beast.

[Denlasoul]

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
The part #'s listed are totally different, so yes the internals of the E55 mounts are much stouter .

Not true. There are two different mounts for the E55. One is the same part number as the C43 and the second is E55 exclusive. The mount used with the E55 depends on the vin#. It's just hard to believe that MB would upgrade the stoutness of an engine mount just for some of it's E55's, unless of course they recalled all the "old" E55 mounts and replaced them with the new one.

edit: Like I said before, my source is pretty credible as he works in a Dealership. He has ordered both parts to do a comparison for me.

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by Denlasoul
Not true. There are two different mounts for the E55. One is the same part number as the C43 and the second is E55 exclusive. The mount used with the E55 depends on the vin#. It's just hard to believe that MB would upgrade the stoutness of an engine mount just for some of it's E55's, unless of course they recalled all the "old" E55 mounts and replaced them with the new one.

edit: Like I said before, my source is pretty credible as he works in a Dealership. He has ordered both parts to do a comparison for me.

I got my info from my buddy who is a parts manager at MB.So I think that would make my source pretty credible as well.Tell him to chk again as I will tell my guy to do the same to see if there is more than one mount available for he 55 motors.

The C43 mounts he showed me had 1# on the mounts that were different than the E55's.I bought both sets and not only that ,the

E55 mounts were (my price)94.00 part#202-240-29-17 price 123.20

C43 mounts were(my price) 74.00 part#202-240-49-17 price 96.80


Whether it is stouter or not is just my theory but I would'nt be surprised. 49-62 more hp and up to almost 100 ft-lbs more TQ.It's possible.

[Denlasoul]

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
I got my info from my buddy who is a parts manager at MB.So I think that would make my source pretty credible as well.Tell him to chk again as I will tell my guy to do the same to see if there is more than one mount available for he 55 motors.

LOL! I knew your source was a credible one too...I'll ask my guy again.

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
E55 mounts were (my price)94.00 part#202-240-29-17 price 123.20
C43 mounts were(my price) 74.00 part#202-240-49-17 price 96.80

I know MB shares alot of parts, but the E55 part you have listed is a W202 part. I would have thought a beefier mount would have been made for the W210 chassis, and thus having a 210-xxx-xx-xx part number.

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
Whether it is stouter or not is just my theory but I would'nt be surprised. 49-62 more hp and up to almost 100 ft-lbs more TQ.It's possible.[/B]

It is really probable that the E55 mount is more sturdy. Dont get me wrong, I'm not trying to discredit you or anything, but if a person (like myself) wants to upgrade their mounts it would be good to have the right part. I hope we can get to the bottom of this as I am in desperate need of new mounts!

[coolcarlskic43]

I can't remember but don't some of the spring pad's start with a 210-xxx-xx-xxx #? MB does seem to mix and match different part#'s with different cars.Weird





P.S. by the way you're gonna find that the ride and handling will feel better once you change the broken mounts.

[c55m8o]

Originally posted by r0csfinest Where did you get an engine from?

...follow-up to my response earlier. I see his posts of engines for sale were finally deleted (I thought it would be as he had under 30 posts ... kinda shooting the W202 community in the foot given what he's sell'n IMO) ... anyway, e-mail Norman Tong, D1CiViC131 -at- aol.com.

[jnolte]

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
I can't remember but don't some of the spring pad's start with a 210-xxx-xx-xxx #? MB does seem to mix and match different part#'s with different cars.Weird





P.S. by the way you're gonna find that the ride and handling will feel better once you change the broken mounts.

Of course MB is going to mix parts with other cars, this is how they save money. It would be financial stupidity to make parts specific for each model.

Like the earlier w202s use the w201 spring pads....and the 1998+ use w210 spring pads. Im sure if you searched your car you may find parts with w208 and w210 written on them.

[Denlasoul]

My point being is that if the mount is beefier (and thus different) than the C43 mounts, then wouldnt they ahve a W210 part number due to the fact the E55 engine was used a year later than when the first C43 came out?

I'm arguing that the first C43 mounts and the E55 mounts are the same up to a certain point, then it was switched to another p/n for the E55 only. Are they different? Hopefully we will find out.

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by Denlasoul
My point being is that if the mount is beefier (and thus different) than the C43 mounts, then wouldnt they ahve a W210 part number due to the fact the E55 engine was used a year later than when the first C43 came out?

I'm arguing that the first C43 mounts and the E55 mounts are the same up to a certain point, then it was switched to another p/n for the E55 only. Are they different? Hopefully we will find out.

Well I know my 55 mounts cost more but they look the same,that's for sure

[jnolte]

Originally posted by Denlasoul
My point being is that if the mount is beefier (and thus different) than the C43 mounts, then wouldnt they ahve a W210 part number due to the fact the E55 engine was used a year later than when the first C43 came out?

I'm arguing that the first C43 mounts and the E55 mounts are the same up to a certain point, then it was switched to another p/n for the E55 only. Are they different? Hopefully we will find out.

I am willing to bet the e55 and c43 mounts are the same...

what year did the first e55 come out? was it 2000?

Perhaps the C43 mounts changed to the e55 mounts in the year 2000.

It would be intresting to check the engine mount part numbers on a 1998 c43 and the part numbers on a 2000 C43 to see if they compare the the e55 part numbers.

i wonder what the CLK55 use?

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by jnolte
I am willing to bet the e55 and c43 mounts are the same...

what year did the first e55 come out? was it 2000?

Perhaps the C43 mounts changed to the e55 mounts in the year 2000.

It would be intresting to check the engine mount part numbers on a 1998 c43 and the part numbers on a 2000 C43 to see if they compare the the e55 part numbers.

i wonder what the CLK55 use?

E55 came to the US in 1999. The mounts look the same but I'm willing to bet on my theory of the 55 mounts being stouter.Remember that's just my theory.

[knvs]

man I can beieve I'm responding while in hawaii... lol. Well to answer a few of the questions:

Yes mounts are being changed. I'm not sure which ones tho( e55's but I don't know part #s)

and the shop thats doing it is N1 concepts in South San Francisco.

The shop belongs to Norm Tong, the same guy that posted engines here for sale and the same guy that Steve (c55m8o) bought his engine from

Stock hp is 349 at crank and 400ish torque. Once again steve has actual #s on it so I'd look at his thread.

I got my motor with about 36k miles on it and i can't wait to test it out once I get back!!!!

Gerry, shoot me an email and we'll meet up again. I'd love to show u the beast.

Also anyone going to the sac meet, I should be there too. So every one can see it there!!!!

[coolcarlskic43]

Originally posted by knvs
man I can beieve I'm responding while in hawaii... lol. Well to answer a few of the questions:

Yes mounts are being changed. I'm not sure which ones tho( e55's but I don't know part #s)

and the shop thats doing it is N1 concepts in South San Francisco.

The shop belongs to Norm Tong, the same guy that posted engines here for sale and the same guy that Steve (c55m8o) bought his engine from

Stock hp is 349 at crank and 400ish torque. Once again steve has actual #s on it so I'd look at his thread.

I got my motor with about 36k miles on it and i can't wait to test it out once I get back!!!!

Gerry, shoot me an email and we'll meet up again. I'd love to show u the beast.

Also anyone going to the sac meet, I should be there too. So every one can see it there!!!!

Have Norm place a brand new MAFand new iridium spakplugs while your at it.trust me you'll never regret it and have him get you a new one(MAF) whether he says you need a new one or not! PS,you may or may not need soft ware.Dyno the car,get your AFR's and post them so the fellow W202 C55er's and other's can let you know! Good Luck!

[knvs]

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
Have Norm place a brand new MAFand new iridium spakplugs while your at it.trust me you'll never regret it and have him get you a new one(MAF) whether he says you need a new one or not! PS,you may or may not need soft ware.Dyno the car,get your AFR's and post them so the fellow W202 C55er's and other's can let you know! Good Luck!

Well I just had my MAF replaced on mine in march so I think we'll just use that one. I will need to replace the exhaust manifold and engine mounts according to him. New manifold is $400 and a used one is $100. Also he said new motor mounts are $150 each (ouch) but from reading your post it's better to have them done now then later. I thought I'll need my ECU to be remapped for the E55 engine. Whats AFR? I'm heading home tonight, and hopefully I can pick it up tomorrow!