How the pro's do it:D

**RemoLexi** · 01-14-2007, 06:12 PM

alright, ill ask my dealer se what he wants me to replace on it

anyway after looking at your engine picture (old old thread) I do see that you have two viscous fans and also your radiater is pushed back and mounted differntly then mine - mine is completly under the radiater support.

**Pagz** · 01-14-2007, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by RemoLexi
alright, ill ask my dealer se what he wants me to replace on it

anyway after looking at your engine picture (old old thread) I do see that you have two viscous fans and also your radiater is pushed back and mounted differntly then mine - mine is completly under the radiater support.

good spotting...yes yours is totally different,i found that out when i tried to get the mounting shroud for the fan you have!!

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i have one big viscous fan on the front of the engine,and two electric fans infront of the radiators!

**RemoLexi** · 01-14-2007, 06:19 PM

ahh, so ill just leave it as it is now because its already the best setup.

**Pagz** · 01-14-2007, 07:39 PM

haha....well....maybe=)

**Pagz** · 01-14-2007, 07:57 PM

also heres alittle about that cam adjuster setup you said is leaking oil...

http://www.club202.com/forums/showth...threadid=11668

**spm 16v benz** · 01-15-2007, 02:26 AM

Hey 23K,

I would just like to let you know something about your oil return. Your return is set to low in the sump because it is below the oil line so it wont drain faster enough out of the turbo and will block up the line and then you will blow seals in your turbo.

**Pagz** · 01-15-2007, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by spm 16v benz
Hey 23K,

I would just like to let you know something about your oil return. Your return is set to low in the sump because it is below the oil line so it wont drain faster enough out of the turbo and will block up the line and then you will blow seals in your turbo.

hey,
yes iv discussed this with more than a few,the line is 12mm inside diameter and the inlet to the turbo is restricted to 1mm,even with the return submerged in oil im very sure it will not build pressure and force oil through the seals...

**spm 16v benz** · 01-17-2007, 06:23 AM

So 23k can you give an early prediction of when your car will be running????? any new pics??? I think once you have finally finished your car you should do a full thread of the very first turbo project to when your finished this one. Would be very helpful.

**Pagz** · 01-17-2007, 10:04 AM

Im really not sure when it will be running just yet...now that things are moving fast it all comes down to how fat my wallet is!...
I havent gotten any new pics...which is unlike me!,there should be some more towards the end of the month when the header and intake manifolds are complete,they made a start on the intake manifold yesturday.
Its unlikley to be out of there until the magnaflow mufflers+tips turn up from the states so they can complete a new 3" system.

**spm 16v benz** · 01-18-2007, 05:32 AM

Hey 23k, I got some pics for you, I know they aren't for a M111 but they are for a little brother engine of the M111, a M102 engine.

2.5 16v forged CP pistons......200g lighter!!!

**RemoLexi** · 01-18-2007, 08:37 AM

spm 16v benz 23k is gonna kick your ass for teasing him like this

**Pagz** · 01-18-2007, 10:30 AM

Theres somthing about forged and machined parts that get me going,and those definatly have that effect!

Very nice!,WOW so they are 200g lighter each??...including the lighter wrist pin?...the old ones do look alittle brick-ish!

that piston diet will surely free up a few HP!,the skirts look much shorter...did you change compression at all?...

**Pagz** · 01-18-2007, 02:55 PM

since your teasing with those beautiful forges,heres a pic if how the intake manifold is going...excuse the qualityi couldnt load it to my computer so had to take a photo

**spm 16v benz** · 01-18-2007, 04:01 PM

hahaha.......I didn't change the compression. That manifold is just beauty, did you make it or get a shop to??? i love it I want one, where can I get one?

**Pagz** · 01-18-2007, 04:27 PM

Ah i see,so are they 200g lighter each?...or combined?

Unfortunatly it would be pretty rare to see an intake manifold like this off the shelf somwhere

Apart from the billet Skunk2 TB,that is a 100% custom,the billet flange was made by my engineering guys while the plenum and runners are done by another guy(who is totally pro)and all the other little things like fuel rail/mountings/small mods are done by me...Ill get better pics when i see it all in person!

**spm 16v benz** · 01-18-2007, 04:31 PM

The pistons are 200g lighter each, now I really want a 230k turbo.....How much money do you think you have sent all up???

**RemoLexi** · 01-18-2007, 04:59 PM

wow intake manifold is just amazing!!!!

so paul, how much to make another one including the S2 TB???

and how hard is it to wire up a Skunk2 throttle body ??

man I hate living in CA all this is going to be illegal but oh well we only live once!

**Pagz** · 01-18-2007, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by spm 16v benz
The pistons are 200g lighter each, now I really want a 230k turbo.....How much money do you think you have sent all up???

thats alot lighter!...big upgrade!
Im not sure how much its cost now...quite a bit i think!

**Pagz** · 01-18-2007, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by RemoLexi
wow intake manifold is just amazing!!!!

so paul, how much to make another one including the S2 TB???

and how hard is it to wire up a Skunk2 throttle body ??

man I hate living in CA all this is going to be illegal but oh well we only live once!

To make another would be pretty pricey...no...EXTREMELY pricey!!lol...
can i ask what you think it would cost to make it?

the TB shouldnt be to hard to wire,though because the 230k runs DBW you would need an ecu change also...or you could run DBW on a new plenum...but its a tiny TB!.

yeh must be a pain having all those rules!

**RemoLexi** · 01-18-2007, 09:45 PM

cost for the intake manifold .. ill say in the 3K's area ?

and yea ill focus on other things first like ecu and fuel upgrades and THEN if I feel that I still need more power out of an M111 ... then ill think maybe M104 w/diesel crank and Twin turbo with a manual trans. im sure that wouldnt be too hard to find since all of that would be avialible.

Paul Ive got my Turbo header, but still waiting on that fange . and to top it off the intercooler ive ordered was lost. I think your bad luck is starting to rub off onto me

the turbo itself ill be ordering next week. im taking this project slowly because im just a college student not a rocket scientist and dont have all that mad cash stored. anyway yea when I have all the things i need - then ill rip it apart and work crazy amounts of hours putting everything in.

**Pagz** · 01-19-2007, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by RemoLexi
cost for the intake manifold .. ill say in the 3K's area ?

and yea ill focus on other things first like ecu and fuel upgrades and THEN if I feel that I still need more power out of an M111 ... then ill think maybe M104 w/diesel crank and Twin turbo with a manual trans. im sure that wouldnt be too hard to find since all of that would be avialible.

Paul Ive got my Turbo header, but still waiting on that fange . and to top it off the intercooler ive ordered was lost. I think your bad luck is starting to rub off onto me the turbo itself ill be ordering next week. im taking this project slowly because im just a college student not a rocket scientist and dont have all that mad cash stored. anyway yea when I have all the things i need - then ill rip it apart and work crazy amounts of hours putting everything in.

Not a bad guess man!!,i think its going to cost around $2500US(~3500NZ) by the time its fully complete,it should have cost 3100US but i got good deals here an there.

haha i hope not too much rubs off on you,its pretty mean sh!t

damn,lost the IC huh!!,well i guess they will claim insurance and get you out another?
Yeh slowly's all good...its been 14 months since i first pulled out the SC in favour of a turbo,and its still not going lol
what that time has allowed however is for me to save enough to do these mods!

So,what are you planning to do with the header?,cut and weld it to the new flange?

What turbo are you planning to run?

**RemoLexi** · 01-19-2007, 12:16 PM

yep. lost IC. I dont even know what happen I mean its being shipped only a few hundred miles and they lose it ? yea I filed with paypal but its another 20days before any money back or any reply. what a drag.

as the headers goes, Im waiting to get your flange - which i still havnt gotten and ill see maybe the flang it has can be modified some how if not then welding your flange was the first plan so ill stick with that.

TD05h Turbo ! should be good since they used it on 2.0L & 2.3L engines and it does fine. lasts pretty long even under race condition and also very popular so I can buy upgrades/replacement parts for it .

im $75 away from ordering it, im waiting for my paycheck tomarrow. ive sold my full-on Cold air intake and M104 injecters I was running. now riding 100% stock under the hood.

**Pagz** · 01-19-2007, 12:33 PM

hope they find it!,
Still haven't got the flange!,would have thought it to be there by now!...it has been 8 days,they do say 6-10,i hope it gets there!

TD05h,whats the specs for the compressor and turbine housings/wheels?

do you have a pic of the manifold?

**RemoLexi** · 01-19-2007, 01:55 PM

just got the refund for the IC. great ill just go ahead and order the turbo and another IC tomarrow.

no specs/pictures, im not at home its on my comp. at home

yep still waiting for the flange.

EDIT: Turbo Hotside just came in.

**Pagz** · 01-19-2007, 04:47 PM

So your ordering the turbo in seperate parts?..get some pics up when you can

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