Im going to TURBO my W202!!

[zmatt]

F'n A dude congrats.

[SD202]

Its alive !!!!!!!!! Very nice. im sure you'll get all the hiccups worked out eventually.

[Pagz]

OMG finally =D I did see this yesturday but had no sound,got up especially early this morning so i could hear it on my home PC^^.

So the metalic sound is the high pitch frequency you can here in the vid?,almost sounds like a whistle?( TB whistle sounds coming out through IC?)

The engine will sound alot different with the alloy intake plenum,the overlap noise tends to resonate out of it in a metalic sound.

Also the turbo BB cartridge will be louder than a journal bearing setup,its normal,so it will sound metalic especially so if you have intake and outlet off it.

If the sound is metal on metal check the downpipe and bypass piping is not touching somwhere,check the v-bands are well alighned.

Recheck the header to head shortly,but i think you used lock tight ont he studs right? so should be all ok.

Awsome to see it running man!!

[SLAMMED_C]

F'n A dude congrats.

Thank you, Thank you!

Its alive !!!!!!!!! Very nice. im sure you'll get all the hiccups worked out eventually.

Hopefully get a chance to work on some of the issues this weekend and get them sorted out.

OMG finally =D I did see this yesturday but had no sound,got up especially early this morning so i could hear it on my home PC^^.

So the metalic sound is the high pitch frequency you can here in the vid?,almost sounds like a whistle?( TB whistle sounds coming out through IC?)

The engine will sound alot different with the alloy intake plenum,the overlap noise tends to resonate out of it in a metalic sound.

Also the turbo BB cartridge will be louder than a journal bearing setup,its normal,so it will sound metalic especially so if you have intake and outlet off it.

If the sound is metal on metal check the downpipe and bypass piping is not touching somwhere,check the v-bands are well alighned.

Recheck the header to head shortly,but i think you used lock tight ont he studs right? so should be all ok.

Awsome to see it running man!!

Yo Paul! yes the metallic high pitch noise Im hearing is the one that concerns me.. do you think that with all the boost pipes in place the noise could go away? of be muffled more?
I'll have to see if there is anything touching anywhere.. also take the belt off and see if it is maybe resonating from the front of the engine at all.
umm... no! I didnt use any locktite from what I remember! its been so long! I'll have to recheck all the bolts on the header.
it is a great feeling to actually have it start u and run! just gotta figure out the hiccups now. hopefully it will run smoother on saturday after I get a chance to look at a few things.

[SLAMMED_C]

got the oil leak fixed, was the crankshaft pulley seal at the front cover.. put a new one in and no leaks.

still issues with the throttle body. have to check out a wiring diagram again. but seems that there is only one difference between the stock M111 throttle body and a M112 (w210) throttle body.. the power feed seems to be reversed on the M112. have to check it out further though. current code in ME for the throttle body and i cant perform an adaptation of the M112 throttle body, fails the learning of the throttle stops.

the metallic noise I am hearing sounds more like a resonance than anything else now.. and it sounds like it is coming from inside the intake manifold. I hope with all the boost pipes in place it is muffled or goes away!

Oh and another issue I have noticed.. My front calipers hit the sway bar end bushings where it attaches to the lower control arm.. need to cut the brackets off, relocate them about 3" closer to the inside of the vehicle and then cut about 3" off of the end of the sway bar.
right now I turn the steering wheel about 1/4-1/2 turn and it catches on the sway bar bushing mount (bolt for the cup of the bushing). other option is a custom bracket to move the caliper up a bit.. but I think modifying the sway bar would be easier. sigh.. more issues to sort out!!

[Logic]

its about time you got that running..... now lets get some wheels on and take it to it

[Pagz]

Good thing it was only the crank seal!
The intake plenum will sound metalic as pulses bounce around inside it ...it shouldnt be overly loud though!=)
The snow ball effect of heavy modding^^ feels good to be taking a break at the moment xD,still searching daily though.
Chopping the bar shorter and mounting further up the arm will effect the torsion i would think,but not sure just how much seeing as your increasing leverage while effectivley increasing swaybar stiffness? hmm.
Did you sort the issue with the TB?

[Sulaco]

I must say I get alot of joy from reading this thread.

Good work, man. Glad to see people fighting the good fight for the w202!

Though on the topic of insurance with an amg, I saw no change going from my 1994 c280 to my c43. With my wife and myself, full coverage on the 94 e320 and c43, we pay $120/mo. Is that high?

[zmatt]

I don't think so, but you are speaking to a guy who is graduating form college in May and is starting his own business (in this economy too!) Insurance is supposed to go down soon. I have managed to have no infractions or wrecks knock on wood so that helps, but I'm still a young man so my premiums are pretty high. I'm just glad I don't live in Europe.

I dunno about the rest of the world, but in America the insurance companies don't seem to care about modifications so you pay less insurance wise for taking a normal Mercedes and swapping an AMG motor in than having a real AMG.....crazy I know but that's how the world works.

[Pagz]

where did you get the steering wheel?(was it SLK?)

Not to much gets me excited these days ....but that cluster and steering wheel.. haha.

[zmatt]

I agree that looks pretty awesome. The engine, the gauges, this car is just badass all around.

[SLAMMED_C]

its about time you got that running..... now lets get some wheels on and take it to it

wheels wont be on for a while.. still some bugs to figure out.

Good thing it was only the crank seal!
The intake plenum will sound metalic as pulses bounce around inside it ...it shouldnt be overly loud though!=)
The snow ball effect of heavy modding^^ feels good to be taking a break at the moment xD,still searching daily though.
Chopping the bar shorter and mounting further up the arm will effect the torsion i would think,but not sure just how much seeing as your increasing leverage while effectivley increasing swaybar stiffness? hmm.
Did you sort the issue with the TB?

yes Im glad it was only the crank seal as well.. but not surprising as it has sat around for 2 years and not started at all.
we shall see how it sounds once the all the pipes are in place, hopefully it is muffled a bit. if not I will have to live with it!
oh I know.. always one problem after the other when custom parts are installed. still havent found a good donor car? anything coming up lately?
I dont know how it will effect the sway bar if at all.. but its my easiest option other than a custom bracket for the caliper.. and I think that would be more expensive than just lopping off the mounts and welding them in place closer to the body! be a task cutting my Eibach sway bar though!

I must say I get alot of joy from reading this thread.

Good work, man. Glad to see people fighting the good fight for the w202!

Though on the topic of insurance with an amg, I saw no change going from my 1994 c280 to my c43. With my wife and myself, full coverage on the 94 e320 and c43, we pay $120/mo. Is that high?

haha.. I know.. the w202 body is the best one to mod for some good fun! thats pretty cheap insurance you have.

where did you get the steering wheel?(was it SLK?)

Not to much gets me excited these days ....but that cluster and steering wheel.. haha.

The steering wheel is based off a w210 wheel.. I go tit off of ebay from DTC (i think!) they make some kick ass wheels. y it was a mod I had to do.. so sweet!!

I agree that looks pretty awesome. The engine, the gauges, this car is just badass all around.

Thanks bro. hope to have it running right soon.

havent been working on it lately.. will hopefully do some things this week.

but this is what I just got done today...

[Pagz]

yes Im glad it was only the crank seal as well.. but not surprising as it has sat around for 2 years and not started at all.
we shall see how it sounds once the all the pipes are in place, hopefully it is muffled a bit. if not I will have to live with it!
oh I know.. always one problem after the other when custom parts are installed. still havent found a good donor car? anything coming up lately?
I dont know how it will effect the sway bar if at all.. but its my easiest option other than a custom bracket for the caliper.. and I think that would be more expensive than just lopping off the mounts and welding them in place closer to the body! be a task cutting my Eibach sway bar though!

Guess thats how you'll look in your grave??^^ ha ha

Hmmm i reckon you should shift the caliper away(upwards i guess),you could maybe draw up an offset braket and drop it to a machinest im sure they will sort you out?.

Yeh iv come across 4 potential candidates in the last year now iv been looking,took another one for a spin today (this to be exact:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=431674094 ) they go pretty hard tbh,would feel a bit bad pulling apart a nice example like this one tho haha, probly should have just bought this 2000 C43 with 86km's last month which sold just under 20k.(was a non-tip though)
Still playng with the idea of a manual M104 ITB's/extractors + Stand alone...but hard to convince myself over the M113+auto

Anything new on the project??

[Sulaco]

20k for a 2000 c43? Must be the exchange rate I'm missing, because that same c43 would only be like 8k here.

[Pagz]

Yip, Exchange rate + shipping + registration + Tax is about 18 - 20 k if I were to import from Europe or USA.

[zmatt]

that noise is the sound of your bank account draining.

off topic.......what is the price of an R30 skyline in your area in good shape?

[Pagz]

Im just being much more careful about how it drains these days =D

R30's are not that expensive,neither are R32 gtr's,33/34 are still up there.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Sear...h_suggested=11

[SLAMMED_C]

Guess thats how you'll look in your grave??^^ ha ha

Hmmm i reckon you should shift the caliper away(upwards i guess),you could maybe draw up an offset braket and drop it to a machinest im sure they will sort you out?.

Yeh iv come across 4 potential candidates in the last year now iv been looking,took another one for a spin today (this to be exact:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=431674094 ) they go pretty hard tbh,would feel a bit bad pulling apart a nice example like this one tho haha, probly should have just bought this 2000 C43 with 86km's last month which sold just under 20k.(was a non-tip though)
Still playng with the idea of a manual M104 ITB's/extractors + Stand alone...but hard to convince myself over the M113+auto

Anything new on the project??

lol.. Im pretty sure I'll still have my mohawk when Im in my grave.. so its a look into the future!!
I'll look into it and see what kind of costs I'm into for a custom bracket, the sway bar shortening will be the cheaper route to go for sure.. but moving the caliper will be more professional I think. not give it the diy hack it up look!
hopefully a set of custom brackets wont be too much. have to take a caliper bracket off or do up a quick drawing of what I need.

That looks like a clean CLK55 Paul.. but a bit on the high side price wise no? I bet it pulls they are decent cars! pretty quick. C43 seemed like a good deal.. but what kind of condition? I'm sure another will come along.. you just gotta wait for it.

I like the idea of an M104 with either single turbo or twins! and then the individual throttle bodies would just be such a nice touch on top of that! always liked the look of individual throttle bodies... oh and yes a manual for sure. it depends on what you'll be using the car for.. if its a daily driver its probably not good to do all those things (especially the manual with the M104 and ITB).. you more want something you can get into and just easily drive with an auto and the M113 (still fun with the V8 though).. but its its more of a weekend fun car.. then I'd be aboard the M104 train! Maybe C36 M104 or even just the 3.2L M104.. they are pretty peppy too.

no not much really new.. havent done much work. got the second set of racing seat brackets mocked up, just need to put them in my car and test fit the racing seat on the bracket to get position of the holes for the seat bolts.
I also bought another M112 Throttle body cause I think the one I have got fried when I had the pcv port welded shut. so need to test that on the car. hopefully that will fix my lack of throttle response issue!
I got some more vacuum line to run from the BOV to the intake manifold, I also got my 600cc injectors.. need to test fit those.
lots of other stuff still to complete.. but not too worried about things at this point.. hopefully get most of it done over the winter so I will be ready for the spring time! and a bunch of track days!

[zmatt]

Im just being much more careful about how it drains these days =D

R30's are not that expensive,neither are R32 gtr's,33/34 are still up there.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Sear...h_suggested=11

Ah can't get R32s in the USA yet. stupid import laws. They used to let you but the feds went around and impounded a bunch of skylines last year including Paul Walker's.

[Pagz]

Merry Xmas dude! hopfully santa brought some custom caliper brackets and finished of all the other outstanding mods? ....ha ha.

Yeh still considering the CLK55 complete system,really its the direction i want to take it,if I stick with M104 than it would have to be n/a with a manual trans,otherwise the trans wouldnt handle. the V6 gearbox($350nzd) i bought is still in europe,i got it packaged up and put on a pallet for shipping but never got back to the guy,mainly because i think the 5.4 will destroy it and the guys in US who could help with retuning the ecu to work with manual(have done it before) didnt seem to want to only flash the ecu for me,rather just give me a price of 20kUS to install the lot and tell me the gearbox is not recommended... lol.
that C43 wasnt very tidy,but if one come along before i can find a reasonable 55 than ill just go with that and make headers,reuse my exhaust etc...but it gonna be hard because no one seems to look after these cars!!.

Ohh yeh dont weld alloy with anything attached to it...you will fry it for sure^^.
Did you get split spray injectors? I should have chucked in that other fuel rail with the last box i sent you just incase you ever need it for using 560cc evo injectors,that is if you end up running low impedance,anyway if you do need it i'll just send it over free.
All good these projects take time =) will be good to see if that new TB fixs your issues!!

Paul

[Pagz]

Yeh they stopped imports of pre 95 here in about 2002...but that was after we had already imported a few thousand 32's,now they are 20 years old they can be imported as special cars so theres fricken heaps for sale. the import rules are about to change to 2005 i think.. better get my next 202 soon ha ha.

fast and the furious.......I cringed typing that^^

[zmatt]

Gotcha, its annoying working around the import laws. Because of them we can only bring in an sell stuff that's at least 25 years old or more which doesn't do me any good. it sucks to tell someone that you can;t get them an s15 or R34. Nature of the beast I suppose. There is still a demand for classic stuff and a lot of ended up in your back yard. If I ever have to go to NZ to get some cars I may have to drop by and buy you a pint.

[SLAMMED_C]

Merry Xmas dude! hopfully santa brought some custom caliper brackets and finished of all the other outstanding mods? ....ha ha.

Yeh still considering the CLK55 complete system,really its the direction i want to take it,if I stick with M104 than it would have to be n/a with a manual trans,otherwise the trans wouldnt handle. the V6 gearbox($350nzd) i bought is still in europe,i got it packaged up and put on a pallet for shipping but never got back to the guy,mainly because i think the 5.4 will destroy it and the guys in US who could help with retuning the ecu to work with manual(have done it before) didnt seem to want to only flash the ecu for me,rather just give me a price of 20kUS to install the lot and tell me the gearbox is not recommended... lol.
that C43 wasnt very tidy,but if one come along before i can find a reasonable 55 than ill just go with that and make headers,reuse my exhaust etc...but it gonna be hard because no one seems to look after these cars!!.

Ohh yeh dont weld alloy with anything attached to it...you will fry it for sure^^.
Did you get split spray injectors? I should have chucked in that other fuel rail with the last box i sent you just incase you ever need it for using 560cc evo injectors,that is if you end up running low impedance,anyway if you do need it i'll just send it over free.
All good these projects take time =) will be good to see if that new TB fixs your issues!!

Paul

Merry Christmas Paul! santa bring you anything good?
haha no santa didnt bring me any caliper brackets or finish off the other parts!
I did drop off some alloy bits to be welded just before christmas, gotta call the guy tomorrow and pick them up. as for the caliper brackets.. I need to remove the caliper and have a look at them. hopefully do that soon. its been pretty mild over here considering its winter.. temps still between 2-6 degrees celsius! warm for this time of year. and amazingly no snow on christmas. today however we are getting dumped with snow. but hopefully the temps stay above zero and it doesnt stick!
I had a chance today to try the new throttle body on my car.. still not working.. buuuuut it wants to work.. you press on the gas pedal and it wants to move.. it just doesnt move much.. you can hear the idle go up very slightly when you press the gas and them go back down again when you release it. so I'm onto something.. it did absolutely nothing before. I think I need to go back to wiring and check that out.
plumbed my BOV vacuum line.. so one more thing complete there. removed the wood trim again.. need to clear coat it all. reinstalled the original climate control (black face gauges) going back to that.. so my white face gauge climate control is up for sale if anyone is interested (1999 only I believe). I think the black face will suit the new wood trim better.
test fit my sat brackets (for the passenger seat).. so far seems okay. have to sit the race seat on the bracket and mark for the holes to mount the seat to the bracket. have to redo a bracket on the drivers side as I welded the seat belt buckle bracket on the wrong side of the bracket. so have to cut the welds and reweld it on the opposite side! ooooops!
otherwise not much new on the car.

I like the idea of an M104 N/A as well.. with the ITB and a nice long tube header.. I think it will go pretty well! but I'm just hooked on boost right now.. so an M104 boosted would be tits!
would you put the v6 trans on the M113 block? can the trans support the 55 power?! so you've still got the trans sitting on a pallet in europe?! hopefully he hasnt sold it on you!
hmm.. ya I think the 5.4 will destroy the v6 trans as well! Im not even sure if my M111 manual trans will survive the power I want to put through it. but I will only know for sure by putting it in and then slowly raising the boost. I guess the other route is going with a trans that can handle the power and a custom bell housing adapter. but could cost some $$$ maybe.
too bad the C43 wasnt clean. seems like most of the ones you find arent very clean. I guess as long as the engine seems to be decent it doesnt matter too much about the rest of the car if you are transferring everything to your w202. but it would be nice to have a clean car to go with the engine. just for spare parts.
ya! seems like ive found that out already.. do not weld aluminum with electronics inside it!
I did get the injectors.. they are 600cc. hopefully they work. wont need them for a little bit though. but I hope they do work okay. no worries Paul.. if I do need it we can work out something. I think I should be okay though. but at some point I will test fit the 600cc's to see how they fit.
Ross

[SLAMMED_C]

Not much new on this end. havent had a chance to work on my car much the past little bit. tried to last weekend but it was -12 outside.. so got frozen fast! hopefully in the next couple weeks I'll get back at it. we've had some odd weather lately,.. -2 to -8 and snowy one day, then plus 2 out the next! odd winter. but I like how mild its been.
I did have a chance to fit my boost pipe (picked it up from the welder a few weeks back) so it is now mounted from the turbo exit to the intercooler. have to snap some pics of it. and im glad to say that metallic noise is gone with the boost pipe in place.
I'm still having an issue with the throttle body.. not actuating still. I connected my das and checked out some values.. it seems my potentiometer values in the throttle body are ready correctly.. the values were reversed to what they were supposed to be.. so Im maybe thinking my wiring got messed up when I modifed my harness..
a question I have for the w202 kompressor guys is can you check what colour wire goes into what pin on the thrttle body plug? the wiring diagrams are no help as they dont list the correct pin locations in the plug.. the numbers donw match up. Id really appreciate it if someone was able to check that for me. once I get that sorted out I think my throttle issues will be no more.

I need to remove my front calipers (so I can get new brackets custom machined), I was going to remove them last weekend but it was just too cold outside.
that should be an easy task at a good machine shop.

not much else to report on rght now.. not a whole lot left to do to get the car mobile. intercooler needs to be filled with coolant and bled out. save that for a warmer day though. the check list is getting smaller.
it looks like I'll be good for this year... I just want to drive this car so bad!!

[zmatt]

hey slammed, I tried looking up DTC, but no dice, mind pointing my in the right direction for those steering wheels?