As far as being civil. I came here and joined this forum to respond to you saying some pretty awful things about me and what I do. And as far as I can tell you were simply mad that I told you upfront what the product is so you could make an intelligent decision and would know going in what you were getting involved in and that did not meet your expectations. I did not sell it to you and then say tough, that is the way it is or anything of the sort. Like I said it is not for everyone.