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  1. #26
    Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
    Your too concerned so leave it and give me the info so that I can purchase the motor and put it in my friend's CLK 430.
    yuk yuk ... just my nature as a developer ... gotta know all the variables before I start; weigh the ups vs. the downs; consider all the compromises. ...you just don't want another C55 202 on Long Island... :silly:

    Btw, I also don't think you'll want to pay what they're asking ... almost double what you paid for your 5.5L engine, and another reason for my apprehension. ...6 grand for a 5.5L AMG engine ... who do I hand the cash over to ... 10 grand for a crashed car that's sat for some reason for 2 years? ...where an "new" unused one out of a official ML55 AMG crash test car was 15 grand...? let me think about it some more. Just me. I did the same thing when deciding if I should go for a complete speedybenz suspension. Did it though.

    ...was about to book a flight to go visit the engine yesterday. Decided I needed to find a local MB mechanic first, so am doing that now.

  2. #27
    nenad, sorry. The salvage yard said they don't have the car and couldn't help you with the harness.

    Otherwise, to all...

    Here I am trying to find someone who can go inspect the engine for me local to where it is upon recommendation from previous posts ... and thinking I'll fly there @ the same time ... but when I talked to the salvage yard today (reseller I find out today; he's not the one in possesion of the engine) and asked him about coming to visit the engine to check it out first, he said
    "no we don't do that; you cannot come here and see it. That's very unusual; we've never had anyone come to check out an engine ... we give a 6 month garantee, and detail what's wrong with it (needs a new pan, head cover, other stuff from the accident) on the bill of sale, and if the engine is not in that condition you can get your money back ..."
    So for those of you with experience with parts from a wrecked car, and dealing with salvage yards ... is this true or is he just blowing smoke up my ass, so I don't
    a) talk to the real person in possesion of the engine and find I can get it for thousands less directly from him, or
    b) or perhaps get turned off seeing something that's not on the up & up and not buy it...?
    Is this fishy or the normal way business is done with salvage yards?

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    Originally posted by 98c43amg
    [B]nenad, sorry. The salvage yard said they don't have the car and couldn't help you with the harness.

    Otherwise, to all...

    Here I am trying to find someone who can go inspect the engine for me local to where it is upon recommendation from previous posts ... and thinking I'll fly there @ the same time ... but when I talked to the salvage yard today (reseller I find out today; he's not the one in possesion of the engine) and asked him about coming to visit the engine to check it out first, he said So for those of you with experience with parts from a wrecked car, and dealing with salvage yards ... is this true or is he just blowing smoke up my ass, so I don't
    a) talk to the real person in possesion of the engine and find I can get it for thousands less directly from him, or
    b) or perhaps get turned off seeing something that's not on the up & up and not buy it...?
    Is this fishy or the normal way business
    I have a friend with 2 5.5L motors. His name is MOTO(Norman) on www.mbworld.org forum.PM him,he's reliable and trying to get rid of the motors.Tell him Carl in NYC told you to get in touch with him.If you need a 5.0L motor I know where to get one of those locally.The MB mechanic(My buddy)the same guy who installed the 5.5L motor in the car has the 5.0 L motors.He lives in LI off of Exit 21 Southern State .I mentioned ths b4 but you cried that he's too far. Guess what ,I live in NYC and take my BMW's to a head BMW dealer mechanic friend of mine who lives in MT.Kisco NY.That's farther than what you would have to travel. For my moneys worth and good quality wrk a 1.5hr drive is not an issue.I even go all the way to Stamford CT or Woodbridge NJ to get my vehicles Dynoed.Peace of mind is what counts.



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  4. #29
    Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
    I have a friend with 2 5.5L motors. His name is MOTO(Norman) on www.mbworld.org forum.PM him,he's reliable and trying to get rid of the motors.Tell him Carl in NYC told you to get in touch with him.If you need a 5.0L motor I know where to get one of those locally.The MB mechanic(My buddy)the same guy who installed the 5.5L motor in the car has the 5.0 L motors.He lives in LI off of Exit 21 Southern State .I mentioned ths b4 but you cried that he's too far. Guess what ,I live in NYC and take my BMW's to a head BMW dealer mechanic friend of mine who lives in MT.Kisco NY.That's farther than what you would have to travel. For my moneys worth and good quality wrk a 1.5hr drive is not an issue.I even go all the way to Stamford CT or Woodbridge NJ to get my vehicles Dynoed.Peace of mind is what counts.
    "The City" city, on Brooklyn/Queens? I thought you were out on LI.

    That info is very generous of you. Thank You! (why isn't your friend with the CLK going for it?) I'm doing it now. :lick: After talking to RPM Racing too, I don't think I'll be going for this particular engine, given the price plus circumstances. Do you still want the contact info, or is the price and circumstance suspect for you too? (eh, I'll just PM it to you and you can call'm if you want.)

    Listen, I'm down with what you're saying regarding a great tech and extra effort that's worth... But consider, you can be w/o one of your cars easily for any period of time, given the 4 that you have. I can't. What I didn't get into when I replied was my wife and I have very differing schedules, and need separate cars. I also work a lot farther out east, so was just saying a tech much further west then where I live, and even further away mile-wise from my home to the independent MB tech I'd already been using who also happens to be close to where I work, was unfortunate. For a big job where I'd expect to make compromises with commuting schedules and cart my wife around, since I'd have to leave the car for days, say if I needed a valve job, I'd love to use him and thank you again for the contact. For oil changes, it's just too geographically undesirable.

  5. #30
    Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
    I have a friend with 2 5.5L motors. His name is MOTO(Norman) on www.mbworld.org forum.PM him,he's reliable and trying to get rid of the motors.Tell him Carl in NYC told you to get in touch with him.
    PM me his phone number ... I can't wait for him to read and reply to the e-mail and PM I sent him...

    Ya know, I hadn't been going to MBWorld.org 'cus my account was archived (I couldn't sign in). I sent a query but never got a reply. Just tried it today and I'm in! ....was reading your posting there ... awsome info ... I'm inspired by you!

    -steve

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    Originally posted by 98c43amg
    "The City" city, on Brooklyn/Queens? I thought you were out on LI.

    That info is very generous of you. Thank You! (why isn't your friend with the CLK going for it?) I'm doing it now. :lick: After talking to RPM Racing too, I don't think I'll be going for this particular engine, given the price plus circumstances. Do you still want the contact info, or is the price and circumstance suspect for you too? (eh, I'll just PM it to you and you can call'm if you want.)

    Listen, I'm down with what you're saying regarding a great tech and extra effort that's worth... But consider, you can be w/o one of your cars easily for any period of time, given the 4 that you have. I can't. What I didn't get into when I replied was my wife and I have very differing schedules, and need separate cars. I also work a lot farther out east, so was just saying a tech much further west then where I live, and even further away mile-wise from my home to the independent MB tech I'd already been using who also happens to be close to where I work, was unfortunate. For a big job where I'd expect to make compromises with commuting schedules and cart my wife around, since I'd have to leave the car for days, say if I needed a valve job, I'd love to use him and thank you again for the contact. For oil changes, it's just too geographically undesirable.
    I know those guys at Mid Cty Auto.They're located in Wisconsin.The manager's name is Al.I bought my m3 engine and tranny from them for a pretty gd deal. 9k for that 5.5L is alil steep.Norman is selling his motors for much cheaper.

    My friend with the CLK is still deciding based on finances whether he wants to go F/I,5.0 or 5.5L.Yea he's a lil indecisive right now.PM'd you the # for MOTO



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  7. #32
    Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
    I know those guys at Mid Cty Auto.They're located in Wisconsin.The manager's name is Al.I bought my m3 engine and tranny from them for a pretty gd deal. 9k for that 5.5L is alil steep.Norman is selling his motors for much cheaper.

    My friend with the CLK is still deciding based on finances whether he wants to go F/I,5.0 or 5.5L.Yea he's a lil indecisive right now.PM'd you the # for MOTO
    Surprising. Ya, he wasn't willing to budge on the $$$ ($5 shy of 10K actually )
    ...Oh, and I'm buying Norman's engine ... :bunny: ... I'll feel a lot better taking slight fire damage to ancillary external engine components over an unknown possible hard hit myself.

    Thanx so very much for the contact info and re-directing me to a better place. ...now I gotta nuther problem ... I know RPM Racing who are going to be installing the speedybenz suspension and LSD for me want to do the conversion ... my service rep is pushing me to have their head tech do the conversion ... and there's your freind who's already done the conversion (more then once?)...

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    Originally posted by 98c43amg
    Surprising. Ya, he wasn't willing to budge on the $$$ ($5 shy of 10K actually )
    ...Oh, and I'm buying Norman's engine ... :bunny: ... I'll feel a lot better taking slight fire damage to ancillary external engine components over an unknown possible hard hit myself.

    I know RPM Racing who are going to be installing the speedybenz suspension and LSD for me want to do the conversion ... my service rep is pushing me to have their head tech do the conversion ... and there's your freind who's already done the conversion (more then once?)...
    Whoever you have do the conversion,make sure it's some one who wrks presently for MB,whether it's your MB head tech,or my Buddy.Trust me you won't regret it.Any damaged parts on the 5.5L motor can be switched with the parts from your 4.3l (C43).Injectors(same and are green),manifold ,harness.Let the MB mechanic do it or my friend.If my friend does it ,you'll get your car back the next day.He's excellent and you would never detect that you did the swap.Everything will be where it belongs.He also has the Star diagnostic equipment.

    You will need to replace the ECU(AMG) and traction control module(E55),unless(which I doubt)you can find someone to reprogram it.Really not wrth the effort trying that route but I can get you the parts from my other buddy that wrks for MB for dirt cheap his cost.

    How much did you buy the motor for?PM me!
    I'm glad I was able to help.I'll pm you my # if you need anymore info.I'd sure like to know about the LSD.







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  9. #34
    Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
    I'd sure like to know about the LSD.
    Sorry, I forgot to include this info in the PM. It's the Kleemann LSD, which is basically a modified Phantom Grip LSD that Kleemann modified (and puts a big premium on ). I'm having it done @ RPM Racing Inc. . I've been talking to Erik Badia. Let him know Steve with the C43 they're going to do the suspension modification & LSD on sent you. To your point, probably not the engine though ; I may be better off having your guy or the other head MB tech I know do it due to the unknown damaged parts.

    [though Erik did mention something about maybe getting it in a magazine.... maybe I can get RPM Racing and your tech to work in partnership together @ their site... ]

    -steve

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