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Pagz

02-02-2006, 09:56 AM

heres a few pics of the progress!
note the tightness of the rear exhaust port,this is mostly due to the steering box being in the way,but also because there is a 3" tube making its way down also!!!....
overall im quit happy with the outcome,though they had to bring the turbo futher forward than i first intended.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_143_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_142_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_144_full.jpg

ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN THIS!...
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_118_full.jpg

Paul

K_Sport Driver

02-02-2006, 10:00 AM

yeeesshh toight like a toiger!

looking cramped, but powerful. what type of psi will you be running?

Renn 208

02-02-2006, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by K_Sport Driver
what type of psi will you be running?

The positive kind hopefully:p

(okay okay, bad joke...i know)

Pagz

02-02-2006, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by K_Sport Driver
yeeesshh toight like a toiger!

looking cramped, but powerful. what type of psi will you be running?

I like goooooooooooold....Heh:D

yeeeesh she's tight,there was very little i could do unless i converted to left hand drive!!

will know the pressure when we hit the rollers,am expecting around 8-9 gauge psi and would like to at least make 250 at the engine intially without ECU changes...it maybe wishfull thinking...i hope not though

K_Sport Driver

02-02-2006, 10:34 AM

with optimal performance from a naturally aspirated engine, you can get more than 100 hp/litre, so I bet you'll be doing a lot better than you think. just get a good tune on it, and make maps for both summer and winter temperature. otherwise half the year you'll be wasting gas or running lean, plus, losing out on your power potential. my friend's spec-c sti, modded to hell, on a bad tune is only at 275. the local subie specialist estimated a 65-75 hp gain on a good tune. just don't make it go pop. these motors can't be very cheap to replace

Pagz

02-02-2006, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by K_Sport Driver
with optimal performance from a naturally aspirated engine, you can get more than 100 hp/litre, so I bet you'll be doing a lot better than you think. just get a good tune on it, and make maps for both summer and winter temperature. otherwise half the year you'll be wasting gas or running lean, plus, losing out on your power potential. my friend's spec-c sti, modded to hell, on a bad tune is only at 275. the local subie specialist estimated a 65-75 hp gain on a good tune. just don't make it go pop. these motors can't be very cheap to replace

speaking of which,my typeR did over 100hp per Litre!,it had ~132KW at the wheels on the 1800cc!

Anyhow i'd like to remain on the stock ecu for now,so will only raise boost till we hit trouble...will check ratios on a hot and cold day to be sure the pressure setting will be fine...in the long run it will be stand alone as you say there is great gains to be made there!!

Abuimad

02-02-2006, 12:42 PM

sweeeet....
droool......

K_Sport Driver

02-02-2006, 01:05 PM

my old seo had about 135 chp on the 1.5L. there was more i could do to it, but with the results of the mods i had already done, i figured i wouldn't bother. [/offtopic]

!!!!!NJ Drive

02-02-2006, 01:26 PM

damn thats a tight fit... but looks good

Under Pressure

02-02-2006, 01:41 PM

That looks like artwork. Do the guys that fabbed it for you understand the temps it will be exposed to? I assume they do, but I always hear about cracked turbo manifolds when they are custom fabbed (even commercial ones like the Greddy Civic turbo kit manifolds).

Also, what is the next step for your project?

undercover

02-02-2006, 01:55 PM

damn! paul..that lookkkkksssss meeeaaannnnnn! cant wait to see it! :D heheheh:D

Pagz

02-02-2006, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Under Pressure
That looks like artwork. Do the guys that fabbed it for you understand the temps it will be exposed to? I assume they do, but I always hear about cracked turbo manifolds when they are custom fabbed (even commercial ones like the Greddy Civic turbo kit manifolds).

Also, what is the next step for your project?

thanks,
theres definatly an art to making headers!!!..im gonna go as far as say'n i find this stuff almost sexy lol...must be the curves:D:D:D

yeh temps will be high...to help combat cracking we will most likely cut the flange between the ports to help...
if i does crack we'll modify to suit...

the rest of the exhaust and the wastegate will be underway today...once complete the parts will be in for ceramic coating and wrapping....so i hope they dont crack lol

Under Pressure

02-02-2006, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by 23K
to help combat cracking we will most likely cut the flange between the ports to help

This is how the turbo manifold from my old Mosselman kit came. I was going to suugest doing that but I couldnt think of the word "flange" so I let it go thinking that once I remembered the word, I would come back and suggest cutting it lol....

Pagz

02-02-2006, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by undercover
damn! paul..that lookkkkksssss meeeaaannnnnn! cant wait to see it! :D heheheh:D

thanks tim,its been way too long since i last drove it cant wait to take her for a cruise!!!
which side of Aux are you on?

K_Sport Driver

02-02-2006, 02:20 PM

I would do the ceramic coating but not the wrapping. although it contains the heat, it puts more stress on the manifold, and might cause it to crack. i've heard quite a few stories about D series honda custom manifolds breaking when wrapped.

just my impression.

Pagz

02-02-2006, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by K_Sport Driver
I would do the ceramic coating but not the wrapping. although it contains the heat, it puts more stress on the manifold, and might cause it to crack. i've heard quite a few stories about D series honda custom manifolds breaking when wrapped.

just my impression.

your quit right...iv heard similar claims...containing more heat will put added stress on the manifold...at a benifit though!
I'll be in contact with HPC coatings and a few race suppliers to see the outcome of doing both before i proceed...

undercover

02-02-2006, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by 23K
thanks tim,its been way too long since i last drove it cant wait to take her for a cruise!!!
which side of Aux are you on?
i live in mt roskill, so central! but i work our east and well i do deliveries..i go everywhere in auckland! yeah man i cant wait to go for a cruise with you ae!! :D

Pagz

02-02-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by undercover
i live in mt roskill, so central! but i work our east and well i do deliveries..i go everywhere in auckland! yeah man i cant wait to go for a cruise with you ae!! :D

lol im in hillsborough....i'll walk out the back door and trip over you

undercover

02-02-2006, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by 23K
lol im in hillsborough....i'll walk out the back door and trip over you
hahah nice!!!!! man i thought you lived out north shore! :P i saw that you posted that you went to silverstar farm..i was wondering man wot a mission for you to get out there! hahaha :D

rollinrealbig

02-02-2006, 02:45 PM

Damn you Paul!

all gettin me hooked on turbos, but I know for sure im not doing that to my 202 ... ideas on my 203 are still goin in my head, and I have 40K to think about it because thats when my warrenty runs out.

Pagz

02-02-2006, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by undercover
hahah nice!!!!! man i thought you lived out north shore! :P i saw that you posted that you went to silverstar farm..i was wondering man wot a mission for you to get out there! hahaha :D

haha yeh silver star is far from any point in auckland!!!...i go there only when i have to!...and always make sure wayne is here before you leave home!,as he randomly takes days off lol

undercover

02-02-2006, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by 23K
haha yeh silver star is far from any point in auckland!!!...i go there only when i have to!...and always make sure wayne is here before you leave home!,as he randomly takes days off lol
hhhaha..not that far for me! i love the drive :D

Pagz

02-02-2006, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by undercover
hhhaha..not that far for me! i love the drive :D

yeh its about 40mins from where i am so not tooo far...I usually go to north shore after to visit people and take the car for a test drive through the back way..some nice corners out there!

Pagz

02-03-2006, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by Under Pressure
This is how the turbo manifold from my old Mosselman kit came. I was going to suugest doing that but I couldnt think of the word "flange" so I let it go thinking that once I remembered the word, I would come back and suggest cutting it lol....

hey what sort of power did you make with that mosselman kit?,which size engine was it on?...

crazy00c230k

02-03-2006, 12:58 AM

man ur car is awesome, cant wait to see what kind of gains u get w/that turbo

c280nz

02-04-2006, 03:11 AM

that manifold looks o so sweet man!
yea i was also thinking the idea of cutting the header flange between ports, but obviously so was everyone else. but im not sure if that would make much of a difference in preventing cracking as the head would draw alot of heat out of that flange anyway?
were are you going to mount the external? or is that yet to be done?
u gona move your radiator overflow bottle?

once again very nice paul, im a envious

Pagz

02-04-2006, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by c280nz
that manifold looks o so sweet man!
yea i was also thinking the idea of cutting the header flange between ports, but obviously so was everyone else. but im not sure if that would make much of a difference in preventing cracking as the head would draw alot of heat out of that flange anyway?
were are you going to mount the external? or is that yet to be done?
u gona move your radiator overflow bottle?

once again very nice paul, im a envious

hey thanks logan,...although the block acts as a big heat sink,the flange will still be extremely hot!,the external was hopfully mounted last friday...but i havent seen pics yet,it will most likely sit infront of the turbo down alittle,and hopfully exit the manifold at better than 90 degrees!(but i doubt it as theres little room)...
it was my initial intention to shift the radiator tank or make a custom one...but it maybe ok now,we'll see.

Under Pressure

02-04-2006, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by 23K
hey what sort of power did you make with that mosselman kit?,which size engine was it on?...

I never dyno'd it. It was on a C220 (2.2L I4 engine). The kit comes at 5psi and makes a claimed 205hp. I upped it to 7 psi so I am guessing around 225hp.

Pagz

02-04-2006, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Under Pressure
I never dyno'd it. It was on a C220 (2.2L I4 engine). The kit comes at 5psi and makes a claimed 205hp. I upped it to 7 psi so I am guessing around 225hp.

hey do you have any Pics of the setup you could forward me?
thanks...

Under Pressure

02-04-2006, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by 23K
hey do you have any Pics of the setup you could forward me?
thanks...
I used to have a million photos in my old lap top that I ended up smashing into little pieces for reasons I can't recall (law school stress?). The only pic I have left is available by searching my name under the Member's Gallery, but its very small and blurry and will be of no help. Try searching for pics of Koolvin's car in member's gallery too, he bought my old kit, modded it a bit, and has some quality pics...

Pagz

02-04-2006, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by Under Pressure
I used to have a million photos in my old lap top that I ended up smashing into little pieces for reasons I can't recall (law school stress?). The only pic I have left is available by searching my name under the Member's Gallery, but its very small and blurry and will be of no help. Try searching for pics of Koolvin's car in member's gallery too, he bought my old kit, modded it a bit, and has some quality pics...

Kool thanks,yeh i think iv got the pics of Koolvins car,cant see the header though!

Paul

Under Pressure

02-04-2006, 01:47 PM

Are you just wondering what a Mosselman manifold looks like? I found a pic of a Mosselman manifold for a BMW....

http://havephun.com/318ti/pictures/_turbo/DSCF0035.JPG

Though mine was for a Mercedes and not a BMW, they looked virtually identical. Like this one for the BMW, mine was made to bolt a T-25 and was constructed of 35% nickel. Notice the flange is divided between ports.

Pagz

02-04-2006, 03:47 PM

hey yes thats what i was after...just wanted to check the design...you'll find that the "log-style" they have used is subject to more heat abuse than a seperate tube header due to the overlapping pulses,thus greater expansion...i guess they split the ports and use 35% nickle to combat this...
thanks for postn the link!

SLAMMED_C

02-05-2006, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by 23K
heres a few pics of the progress!
note the tightness of the rear exhaust port,this is mostly due to the steering box being in the way,but also because there is a 3" tube making its way down also!!!....
overall im quit happy with the outcome,though they had to bring the turbo futher forward than i first intended.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_143_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_142_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_144_full.jpg

ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN THIS!...
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_118_full.jpg
Paul
DAMN!!.. that looks freaking ill!! they did a really nice job on it.. alot of tight bends in that pipe though.. too bad they couldnt mandrel bend the whole thing!! but still very nice work.

Pagz

02-05-2006, 11:40 AM

sup mang,wondered where you had got too?
yea it would have been wicked to have it fully mandrel bent without welds!....i think they make sure the welds dont protrude into the pipe as they weld it,so flow should be good,although it is tight...it should flow much better than most OEM cast manifolds thats for sure!!!!
the tightness of the back section was enevitable...if only there was more room!!!!...
and theres still the wastegate to plumb in there...so tight!...
should have her back in about 2-3 days:D
hope the stainless exhaust doesnt sound pingy...if it does i may have to heat rap it...

lol only 12 more posts for you:D

SLAMMED_C

02-05-2006, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by 23K
sup mang,wondered where you had got too?
yea it would have been wicked to have it fully mandrel bent without welds!....i think they make sure the welds dont protrude into the pipe as they weld it,so flow should be good,although it is tight...it should flow much better than most OEM cast manifolds thats for sure!!!!
the tightness of the back section was enevitable...if only there was more room!!!!...
and theres still the wastegate to plumb in there...so tight!...
should have her back in about 2-3 days:D
hope the stainless exhaust doesnt sound pingy...if it does i may have to heat rap it...

lol only 12 more posts for you:D
lol.. Im always around bro!!...
whats up with you?.. havent been doing too much.. was out with my gf yesterday.
it honestly looks really nice.. even if it isnt mandrel bent!.. but I have no doubt that the turbo manifold will flow much much better then stock!! it looks like they did a really nice job with welding it together.. so I wouldnt expect the welds to casue any issues with slowing air flow down..
yeh that wastegate is gonna be one tight fit in there.. but it should fit.. somewhere!!
only 2 or 3 days huh!!.. nice.. you better post up more pics!! will you be able to drive it out of there.. or will you tow it back to your house? and then finish the install?
so is it a FULL stainless steel exhaust?.. thats gonna last forever!! any pics of the exhaust yet?
OH yeh.. I just noticed!!.. 11 more posts now! should I post whore to 1000??!!

Pagz

02-05-2006, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
lol.. Im always around bro!!...
whats up with you?.. havent been doing too much.. was out with my gf yesterday.
it honestly looks really nice.. even if it isnt mandrel bent!.. but I have no doubt that the turbo manifold will flow much much better then stock!! it looks like they did a really nice job with welding it together.. so I wouldnt expect the welds to casue any issues with slowing air flow down..
yeh that wastegate is gonna be one tight fit in there.. but it should fit.. somewhere!!
only 2 or 3 days huh!!.. nice.. you better post up more pics!! will you be able to drive it out of there.. or will you tow it back to your house? and then finish the install?
so is it a FULL stainless steel exhaust?.. thats gonna last forever!! any pics of the exhaust yet?
OH yeh.. I just noticed!!.. 11 more posts now! should I post whore to 1000??!!

oh just thought you would have seen this post days ago lol:D,
thought you may have been occupied with the gf!
yeh iv just been veg'n out at home this weekend,have the manifold pics perminatly on the computer to keep my patience at bay lol

it would have been great to drive her out...but theres still lots to do before the engine turns over!!
the heater pump needs pipe changes(as can see for the pics the manifold now sits where the pump once was!)
i will have to plumb the turbo before i fill her up with coolant...

have you ever removed the sump?...i need to do this to weld on the oil return from the turbo...
im pretty sure you just remove the sway bar,engine mount bolts,and jack the engine way up?...sound about right?

yip its a full SS exhaust,except the outside of the resonator,its painted black,but the inside is SS....exhaust pics will be the next show and tell!
LOL post whore it:D:D:D...dont feel bad either most of mine are haha

SLAMMED_C

02-05-2006, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by 23K
oh just thought you would have seen this post days ago lol:D,
thought you may have been occupied with the gf!
yeh iv just been veg'n out at home this weekend,have the manifold pics perminatly on the computer to keep my patience at bay lol

it would have been great to drive her out...but theres still lots to do before the engine turns over!!
the heater pump needs pipe changes(as can see for the pics the manifold now sits where the pump once was!)
i will have to plumb the turbo before i fill her up with coolant...

have you ever removed the sump?...i need to do this to weld on the oil return from the turbo...
im pretty sure you just remove the sway bar,engine mount bolts,and jack the engine way up?...sound about right?

yip its a full SS exhaust,except the outside of the resonator,its painted black,but the inside is SS....exhaust pics will be the next show and tell!
LOL post whore it:D:D:D...dont feel bad either most of mine are haha
Oh I saw this thread on friday I think it was.. while I was at work surfing!.. breifly!
I was just occupied until today to get a chance to post up!.. Im occupied with the gf as much as I can be.. I would be with her everyday if I could.
today Im veggin out!.. lol.. youve had the manifold pics up on your computer to stop you from going crazy huh!
oh yeh.. so now you have to run the aux water pump to a different spot!.. you know where?
you want to remove the oil pan?.. I have never done it on my car.. but that sounds about right.. you will need to jack up the motor as much as you can without breaking anything! shouldnt be too bad on the M111.. so much more difficult on the other larger engine benz's though.
nice.. get that next set of pics up man!!.. gotta see this exhaust now!
lol.. okay I wont feel bad.. a post whoring I will go!

undercover

02-05-2006, 01:07 PM

[i]yeh its about 40mins from where i am so not tooo far...I usually go to north shore after to visit people and take the car for a test drive through the back way..some nice corners out there![/B]

oooo i love corners....wonder if anyones done up a merc purely for drifting? hahaha they'd have to be super rich or have lots of spare parts incase of a crash..ouch..imgine the money put into it..haha guess we'll leave it to the japs :D

Pagz

02-05-2006, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by undercover
oooo i love corners....wonder if anyones done up a merc purely for drifting? hahaha they'd have to be super rich or have lots of spare parts incase of a crash..ouch..imgine the money put into it..haha guess we'll leave it to the japs :D

yeh it would be costly to setup a 202 for drifting thats for sure,u'd have to kill the ASR for one!...

Pagz

02-05-2006, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
Oh I saw this thread on friday I think it was.. while I was at work surfing!.. breifly!
I was just occupied until today to get a chance to post up!.. Im occupied with the gf as much as I can be.. I would be with her everyday if I could.
today Im veggin out!.. lol.. youve had the manifold pics up on your computer to stop you from going crazy huh!
oh yeh.. so now you have to run the aux water pump to a different spot!.. you know where?
you want to remove the oil pan?.. I have never done it on my car.. but that sounds about right.. you will need to jack up the motor as much as you can without breaking anything! shouldnt be too bad on the M111.. so much more difficult on the other larger engine benz's though.
nice.. get that next set of pics up man!!.. gotta see this exhaust now!
lol.. okay I wont feel bad.. a post whoring I will go!

...fair enough,gotta keep the gurl happy!...
i think iv got too much free time at work lol
yeh will most likely put the pump up beside the radiator tank i think!...
i'll be taken the pan out next weekend i hope...sounds messy,will need a new seal too i guess...

that was a quik 7...only 5 to go man;)heh

SLAMMED_C

02-05-2006, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by 23K
...fair enough,i think iv got too much free time at work lol
yeh will most likely put the pump up beside the radiator tank i think!...
that was a quik 7...only 5 to go man;)heh
lol.. lately Ive had lots of free time at work!!.. hasnt ben too busy at all.
oh yeh.. sounds good.. but will you need to move or replace the coolant resevoir at all? turbo going to get in the way?.. Iknow you said you mihgt be okay.. but since the turbo in now further forward will it still fit?
3 more to go!!...

Pagz

02-05-2006, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
lol.. lately Ive had lots of free time at work!!.. hasnt ben too busy at all.
oh yeh.. sounds good.. but will you need to move or replace the coolant resevoir at all? turbo going to get in the way?.. Iknow you said you mihgt be okay.. but since the turbo in now further forward will it still fit?
3 more to go!!...

LOL i just edited the last reply,saved and you'd already replied...was like damn i must have fall'n asleep!..

Im not too sure if i'll need to shift it...im hoping not as its just a whole heap more work!!!,kinda hard to see from the pics!

oh yea i was going to ask you about engine mounts....i installed new ones as mine had cracks and were crushed down about 10mm compared to new...but now the engine looks like its tilting upwards and the viscous fan isnt parallel to the radiator!!...is this normal?

haha the big countdown 3...2...

SLAMMED_C

02-05-2006, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by 23K
LOL i just edited the last reply,saved and you'd already replied...was like damn i must have fall'n asleep!..

Im not too sure if i'll need to shift it...im hoping not as its just a whole heap more work!!!,kinda hard to see from the pics!

oh yea i was going to ask you about engine mounts....i installed new ones as mine had cracks and were crushed down about 10mm compared to new...but now the engine looks like its tilting upwards and the viscous fan isnt parallel to the radiator!!...is this normal?

haha the big countdown 3...2...

lol.. youre too slow bro!!...
it is kinda har dot see from the pics.. but it looks like it may be close!
hmmm.. doesnt sound very normal.. even when I replaced my engine mounts (not that long ago) my engine sat pretty straight.. maybe they arent in right?.. did you line up the tabs right from the motor mount to the mount off the engine?
it should still be parallel..
and about the oil pan removal.. YES it will be messy!! you will need a special sealant to reseal the oil pan.. no actual gasket.. its a silicone style sealnt in a tube.. I will get you the part number...
1 more to go!!.....

Pagz

02-05-2006, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
lol.. youre too slow bro!!...
it is kinda har dot see from the pics.. but it looks like it may be close!
hmmm.. doesnt sound very normal.. even when I replaced my engine mounts (not that long ago) my engine sat pretty straight.. maybe they arent in right?.. did you line up the tabs right from the motor mount to the mount off the engine?
it should still be parallel..
and about the oil pan removal.. YES it will be messy!! you will need a special sealant to reseal the oil pan.. no actual gasket.. its a silicone style sealnt in a tube.. I will get you the part number...
1 more to go!!.....

hmmm yeh it didnt sound normal to me either...i questioned my parts supplier and he reckons thats how it is!...
yip there in there correctly...i think i'll take one off and compare to another at a local MB dealer!
oh so i need a sealant!...thanks,the number would be good!

999:D

PS it must be get'n late in canada!!,work tomorrow!,we just had a public holiday!...

SLAMMED_C

02-05-2006, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by 23K
hmmm yeh it didnt sound normal to me either...i questioned my parts supplier and he reckons thats how it is!...
yip there in there correctly...i think i'll take one off and compare to another at a local MB dealer!
oh so i need a sealant!...thanks,the number would be good!

999:D
well I might as well be a post whore and post up for 1000!!!
you may wanna check it out.. I can get you the part number for the motor mounts right now if ya want.. I have the part number somewhere!
yep.. you need a sealant.. its black.. and very sticky!! I can get ya some info on it too if ya like.. oil pan removal and all that jazz... let me know.
I will get the part number of the sealant tomorrow.. dont have one here to tell you it!!

Pagz

02-05-2006, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
well I might as well be a post whore and post up for 1000!!!
you may wanna check it out.. I can get you the part number for the motor mounts right now if ya want.. I have the part number somewhere!
yep.. you need a sealant.. its black.. and very sticky!! I can get ya some info on it too if ya like.. oil pan removal and all that jazz... let me know.
I will get the part number of the sealant tomorrow.. dont have one here to tell you it!!

NICE...you'v hit the four digit club!...:smilies with cold beer: :D
oh yeh the numbers for the mounts and sealant would be awsome man!,dont worry bout the removal info just yet...i'll give it a go first then read the instructions lol

i edited my last message again(after you had replied)damn i am slow!...

see you at 2000!!!

SLAMMED_C

02-05-2006, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by 23K
NICE...you'v hit the four digit club!...:smilies with cold beer: :D
oh yeh the numbers for the mounts and sealant would be awsome man!,dont worry bout the removal info just yet...i'll give it a go first then read the instructions lol

i edited my last message again(after you had replied)damn i am slow!...

see you at 2000!!!
yeppers!!.. 4 digit club!.. Im in! wooooo whoooooooo
no problem man.. I will get the part numbers for ya tomorrow.. and I will get some info too.. lol.. so ya wanna change it and look at the instructions later huh!!
see!!.. youre too slow bro!... yeh its getting late in Toronto.. its sunday night.. 11:20pm!... whats this???!!... another public holidy.. you just had one last week too!!

Pagz

02-05-2006, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
yeppers!!.. 4 digit club!.. Im in! wooooo whoooooooo
no problem man.. I will get the part numbers for ya tomorrow.. and I will get some info too.. lol.. so ya wanna change it and look at the instructions later huh!!
see!!.. youre too slow bro!... yeh its getting late in Toronto.. its sunday night.. 11:20pm!... whats this???!!... another public holidy.. you just had one last week too!!

yeh iv had a good run on holidays lately along with my month off!!!damn 11.20pm!better hope the boss doesnt give you a hard job tommorrow!....its 5.30 here monday avo and im tired heh

and yeh if its no hassel!,it would be good to know what MB recommends be done when the pan is dropped!,thanks Ross!
laters mang...

coolcarlskic43

02-05-2006, 07:40 PM

You should easily be able to make more than 245 at the crank.That's very moddest. With enuff fuel,timing,right size intercooler,and hoses,your car should at least do that at the wheels. ave you looked into getting a piggy back ECU to control fuel and timing?If the compression is low enuff and everything else is setup right ,you can make 300 and up at the crank!

Pagz

02-05-2006, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
You should easily be able to make more than 245 at the crank.That's very moddest. With enuff fuel,timing,right size intercooler,and hoses,your car should at least do that at the wheels. ave you looked into getting a piggy back ECU to control fuel and timing?If the compression is low enuff and everything else is setup right ,you can make 300 and up at the crank!

the turbo i have is rated for around 320hp,my target is 300!
I like to remain alittle moddest!,i'd like to be suprised at the outcome...however im sceptical of the gains because of the trouble speedwerx and ernest jones had with there setup(running stock ecu)...
and im not planning ECU work for the initial stage...
piggy back is definatly on the cards...as a local tuner told me he used to race an MB and using the stock ecu+piggyback and said it was better than going stand alone...the difference being it was a turbo diesel running 38psi and untold fuel pressure(produced 460HP)....he also mentioned the exhaust spat parts now and then LOL...

coolcarlskic43

02-05-2006, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by 23K
the turbo i have is rated for around 320hp,my target is 300!
I like to remain alittle moddest!,i'd like to be suprised at the outcome...however im sceptical of the gains because of the trouble speedwerx and ernest jones had with there setup(running stock ecu)...
and im not planning ECU work for the initial stage...
piggy back is definatly on the cards...as a local tuner told me he used to race an MB and using the stock ecu+piggyback and said it was better than going stand alone...the difference being it was a turbo diesel running 38psi and untold fuel pressure(produced 460HP)....he also mentioned the exhaust spat parts now and then LOL... Well ,here's the website for your needs. http://www.splitsec.com/

Keep us posted.i know 2 guys using this ,one with his 1999 E55and the other on his supercharged clk55 with an aftermarket supercharger kit .They put out good #'s and say that the split second piggyback wrks flawlessly.This setup will help you tremendously!here is the link:http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128029&highlight=split

Pagz

02-05-2006, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
Well ,here's the website for your needs. http://www.splitsec.com/

Keep us posted.i know 2 guys using this ,one with his 1999 E55and the other on his supercharged clk55 with an aftermarket supercharger kit .They put out good #'s and say that the split second piggyback wrks flawlessly.This setup will help you tremendously!here is the link:http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128029&highlight=split

thanks for the links,I will check it all out!...iv never gone right into the ecu/sensor signal tuning side of things,so will need to pick it all up as i go...

Paul

coolcarlskic43

02-06-2006, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by 23K
thanks for the links,I will check it all out!...iv never gone right into the ecu/sensor signal tuning side of things,so will need to pick it all up as i go...

Paul It's very important once you look to make real power turbocharging or supercharging.The split second piggyback will allow you to make as much power as you can safely while making sure your motor can survive ! I have an eagle talon(Same motor as the EVOLUTION Lancer lll)it puts out 412whp about 500hp crank and tuning is the most important aspect of a turbocharged car. Not enuff fuel or too much timing and your turbocharged motor will surely become nothing but a blownup chunk of metal only good to anchor a ship.:( TUNING,TUNING,TUNING! Very important. Try to get to know someone who has a turbocharged beast that will be able to tune that beast for you.Someone reputable that is.The stck ECU will definitely be at it's limit once u turn up the boost and are making a certain amt of pwr.This can be harmful to your motor.Keep me posted if you have any question.You've done a total nice job with your car.

Pagz

02-06-2006, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
It's very important once you look to make real power turbocharging or supercharging.The split second piggyback will allow you to make as much power as you can safely while making sure your motor can survive ! I have an eagle talon(Same motor as the EVOLUTION Lancer lll)it puts out 412whp about 500hp crank and tuning is the most important aspect of a turbocharged car. Not enuff fuel or too much timing and your turbocharged motor will surely become nothing but a blownup chunk of metal only good to anchor a ship.:( TUNING,TUNING,TUNING! Very important. Try to get to know someone who has a turbocharged beast that will be able to tune that beast for you.Someone reputable that is.The stck ECU will definitely be at it's limit once u turn up the boost and are making a certain amt of pwr.This can be harmful to your motor.Keep me posted if you have any question.You've done a total nice job with your car.

I used to have an Evo 3,they run well!...
there are quit a few good local tuners here...so it shouldnt be to hard to pay someone to do it...however...im very interested in the technical side of it...
what i would like to know more,is the workings of our ECU and sensor etc...the MAF uses a 0-5V range?,and the the split sec device they were using was a PSC1-001...which was used to alter the voltage after the MAF "pegged"...what does pegged mean?(im guessing its the where the MAF cannot accurately read outside its range)...
also the device used "cells"...which i guess is tuning incriments within a given RPM ?

I would like to know how an altered/mapped signal will produce the fuel required to run higher pressure...does it need to work in with a FPR and maybe an upgraded fuel pump?

also what is an FMU?(fuel .... ....)

thanks for your help!

Under Pressure

02-06-2006, 10:07 AM

FMU = fuel management unit. As far as engine management, I never understood that stuff so I will back off here and let the experts in haha

coolcarlskic43

02-06-2006, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by 23K
I used to have an Evo 3,they run well!...
there are quit a few good local tuners here...so it shouldnt be to hard to pay someone to do it...however...im very interested in the technical side of it...
what i would like to know more,is the workings of our ECU and sensor etc...the MAF uses a 0-5V range?,and the the split sec device they were using was a PSC1-001...which was used to alter the voltage after the MAF "pegged"...what does pegged mean?(im guessing its the where the MAF cannot accurately read outside its range)...
also the device used "cells"...which i guess is tuning incriments within a given RPM ?

I would like to know how an altered/mapped signal will produce the fuel required to run higher pressure...does it need to work in with a FPR and maybe an upgraded fuel pump?

also what is an FMU?(fuel .... ....)

thanks for your help! Basically from what my understanding is,the piggy back fools the ECU into thinking it's getting a certain amt of air thru the MAF. The computer then compensates for the info received and will determine whether you need more or less fuel.

Cells I believe does have to do with tuning increments per rpms.I know this is how the APEXi AFC wrks.

Another thing that I recommend is using a higher flow fuel pump to make sure your getting a nice volume of fuel.Your stck fuel pressure reg should be ok.

I can refer you to a guy on this forum and MBworld.org who can really give you better details and theoryh about using the piggy back and or whether you will need to use a FPR with it.I am going to send you more links of guys you should try and get in touch with who are having success with the split sec.

Any questions concerning tuning you can also ask these guys.

JoshR and Josh k are members of this forum as well.

To me the thread with GregC and his CLK55 is the most informative one about the split sec piggy back.He loves it!

These links are very imformative:

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133487

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128029

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showt...276#post1430276

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125694

This one is long but excellent:

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=130280&page=1&pp=50

Pagz

02-06-2006, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
Basically from what my understanding is,the piggy back fools the ECU into thinking it's getting a certain amt of air thru the MAF. The computer then compensates for the info received and will determine whether you need more or less fuel.

Cells I believe does have to do with tuning increments per rpms.I know this is how the APEXi AFC wrks.

Another thing that I recommend is using a higher flow fuel pump to make sure your getting a nice volume of fuel.Your stck fuel pressure reg should be ok.

I can refer you to a guy on this forum and MBworld.org who can really give you better details and theoryh about using the piggy back and or whether you will need to use a FPR with it.I am going to send you more links of guys you should try and get in touch with who are having success with the split sec.

Any questions concerning tuning you can also ask these guys.

JoshR and Josh k are members of this forum as well.

To me the thread with GregC and his CLK55 is the most informative one about the split sec piggy back.He loves it!

These links are very imformative:

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133487

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128029

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showt...276#post1430276

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125694

This one is long but excellent:

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=130280&page=1&pp=50

woa thanks your the man!...,theres a wealth of info there!,will let you know how i go when i cross the tuning bridge!

hey Ross....worst fears confirmed,iv just been over for a look at the manifold...turns out i will need to make a custom radiator tank!...and also one part of the manifold is like 10mm from the side of the strut tower...so either use a hammer to gain room or cut and weld a cup shape piece of metal in...ooor could install hard engine mounts+ maybe an engine damper...sounds like alot more work on the way LOL its always the case....might have her up and running by late this year maybe :eek:

undercover

02-06-2006, 07:16 PM

oooo guttedd...ahwell thats what you got to do for your 202!!!

Pagz

02-06-2006, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by undercover
oooo guttedd...ahwell thats what you got to do for your 202!!!

yeh...really i dont mind,it will definately give the bay a custom look!,hmmm the issue of header clearance maybe a headach though...

Pagz

02-06-2006, 09:44 PM

at least my IC pipes came back with nice welds;)
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/735000-735999/735658_145_full.jpg

Paul

Pagz

02-07-2006, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by coolcarlskic43
Basically from what my understanding is,the piggy back fools the ECU into thinking it's getting a certain amt of air thru the MAF. The computer then compensates for the info received and will determine whether you need more or less fuel.

Cells I believe does have to do with tuning increments per rpms.I know this is how the APEXi AFC wrks.

Another thing that I recommend is using a higher flow fuel pump to make sure your getting a nice volume of fuel.Your stck fuel pressure reg should be ok.

I can refer you to a guy on this forum and MBworld.org who can really give you better details and theoryh about using the piggy back and or whether you will need to use a FPR with it.I am going to send you more links of guys you should try and get in touch with who are having success with the split sec.

Any questions concerning tuning you can also ask these guys.

JoshR and Josh k are members of this forum as well.

To me the thread with GregC and his CLK55 is the most informative one about the split sec piggy back.He loves it!

These links are very imformative:

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133487

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128029

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showt...276#post1430276

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125694

This one is long but excellent:

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=130280&page=1&pp=50

Damn that last thread is huge!!!....was it me or towards the end did sombody mention ditching the SC for turbo!?!?!lol

SLAMMED_C

02-07-2006, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by 23K

hey Ross....worst fears confirmed,iv just been over for a look at the manifold...turns out i will need to make a custom radiator tank!...and also one part of the manifold is like 10mm from the side of the strut tower...so either use a hammer to gain room or cut and weld a cup shape piece of metal in...ooor could install hard engine mounts+ maybe an engine damper...sounds like alot more work on the way LOL its always the case....might have her up and running by late this year maybe :eek:
DAMN!!!.. well that aint good bro.. but at east it will be all custom and look cool!!
maybe if you find a coolant reservoir form an other car that fits well in the space?...
man this is becoming one HUGE custom project!!... how about solid brass engine mounts!??!!
I will email what I found about the oil pan..
and according to this there is an actual gasket for the oil pan.. not the black silicone like the M112/113 motors.. it seems odd to me.. guess you will have to check out the dealer for the gasket..

byt the way.. nice welds of the intercooler pipe man.. that guy you have does nice work.

Pagz

02-07-2006, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
DAMN!!!.. well that aint good bro.. but at east it will be all custom and look cool!!
maybe if you find a coolant reservoir form an other car that fits well in the space?...
man this is becoming one HUGE custom project!!... how about solid brass engine mounts!??!!
I will email what I found about the oil pan..
and according to this there is an actual gasket for the oil pan.. not the black silicone like the M112/113 motors.. it seems odd to me.. guess you will have to check out the dealer for the gasket..

byt the way.. nice welds of the intercooler pipe man.. that guy you have does nice work.

YIP..one huge project man,just when i thought it was all down hill!!
....im keen on doing an alloy tank,maybe fit an alloy oil seperator tank beside it to complement...and somhow fit that pump in there too!!
Im alittle worried about changing the engine mounts to harder ones as this will induce loads of vibration through the chassis etc
installing an engine damper will also cause vibration...but im guessing not as much....
I'll most likely end up cutting a hole in the strut tower and welding in a cup like piece of metal which will give me the clearances i need!
hey did you find those engine mount numbers??

hey yeh the welds are even better than they look in the pic!!...i would have purchased new IC piping and had a few less welds but nobody does 60mm alloy mandrel bent pipes here!..only imperial!

SLAMMED_C

02-07-2006, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by 23K
YIP..one huge project man,just when i thought it was all down hill!!
....im keen on doing an alloy tank,maybe fit an alloy oil seperator tank beside it to complement...and somhow fit that pump in there too!!
Im alittle worried about changing the engine mounts to harder ones as this will induce loads of vibration through the chassis etc
installing an engine damper will also cause vibration...but im guessing not as much....
I'll most likely end up cutting a hole in the strut tower and welding in a cup like piece of metal which will give me the clearances i need!
hey did you find those engine mount numbers??

hey yeh the welds are even better than they look in the pic!!...i would have purchased new IC piping and had a few less welds but nobody does 60mm alloy mandrel bent pipes here!..only imperial!
Well that could be interesting.. a nice aluminium coolant tank.. geeeez.. how much is that gonna cost though!??.. or are you past the cost by now?!! lol...
well hard mount would put heaps more stress on the chassis and block too.. may cause the knock sensor to retard timing on you!!
so ya gonna have to cut into the tower huh.. any pics the clearance issues?
Yeh sorry.. thatnks for reminding me!.. okay.. the Engine mount part numbers are 203-240-03-17, and 203-240-06-17.. but I really dont remember there being 2 different part numbers on the boxs.. these are the part numbers on my bill!.. they are correct though.

Pagz

02-07-2006, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
Well that could be interesting.. a nice aluminium coolant tank.. geeeez.. how much is that gonna cost though!??.. or are you past the cost by now?!! lol...
well hard mount would put heaps more stress on the chassis and block too.. may cause the knock sensor to retard timing on you!!
so ya gonna have to cut into the tower huh.. any pics the clearance issues?
Yeh sorry.. thatnks for reminding me!.. okay.. the Engine mount part numbers are 203-240-03-17, and 203-240-06-17.. but I really dont remember there being 2 different part numbers on the boxs.. these are the part numbers on my bill!.. they are correct though.

it should look good i think..i'll make all the tanks up and have someone weld it for me,will work out quit cheap...but i think im way past the savings game lol
after a quik phone call today its looking like i'll get her back on friday...so i'll post pics of the clearance issues then!...
hey thanks for the part numbers...looks like the numbers are for the right and left sides...this is what my supplier told me...but the ones i got are the new design which uses the same part number for both sides...Hmmm...im yet to take one into MB...will let you know!

and yeh doing stuff to the mounts etc can cause some bad things,it will be a last resort if i do!

SLAMMED_C

02-07-2006, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by 23K
it should look good i think..i'll make all the tanks up and have someone weld it for me,will work out quit cheap...but i think im way past the savings game lol
after a quik phone call today its looking like i'll get her back on friday...so i'll post pics of the clearance issues then!...
hey thanks for the part numbers...looks like the numbers are for the right and left sides...this is what my supplier told me...but the ones i got are the new design which uses the same part number for both sides...Hmmm...im yet to take one into MB...will let you know!

and yeh doing stuff to the mounts etc can cause some bad things,it will be a last resort if i do!
that should be interesting.. cant wait to see the tanks! lol.. yeh you are definetly past the savings game!
Woooo hoooooo!!... so ya get her back friday huh!.. post up pics of everything!!
well the part numbers are for left and right sides.. but even when I installed the mounts in my car 3 months back.. the part numbers on the boxes were the same!! so I dont know!

savant

02-07-2006, 07:44 PM

Hey man,

in regards to engine mounts these guys may have something thats suitable. I was in there a little while ago and they have rubber dampers etc.

Hancock Industrial Ltd
28 Hargreaves St, Ponsonby, Auckland 0-9-373 2760

Pagz

02-07-2006, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by savant
Hey man,

in regards to engine mounts these guys may have something thats suitable. I was in there a little while ago and they have rubber dampers etc.

Hancock Industrial Ltd
28 Hargreaves St, Ponsonby, Auckland 0-9-373 2760

hey thanks....i'll give them a call!,do they have rubber bushes(engine mount),or oil filled dampers?(engine dampers)

Paul

savant

02-07-2006, 10:52 PM

Probably more bushes I guess - I was just grabbing a stainless U bolt. Not sure if they'll have what you're after but doesn't hurt to try I guess :)

SLAMMED_C

03-01-2006, 06:27 PM

Any progress yet?... or still at a stand still?

Pagz

03-01-2006, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
Any progress yet?... or still at a stand still?

Yo,um na mang its painfully slow...have been so busy at work also!!!!,still havent had time to write back but will do for sure man!...
turns out theres more work in doing the radiator tank than i first thought...,have cut the OEM one open and removed the float...just trying to incorperate the magnetic switch into the new one iv made...
also as my engine harness is almost past it used-by im making a custom one that includes the four new sensors iv installed!...
you'll see on my page iv constucted a 4" intake as well,just need to get it welded etc and buy the right filter!....

the most annoying thing at the moment is trying to find an easy way to stiffen up the engine mounts...looks like i will gut my old mounts and have them re-pored in a harder rubber with no oil.

Iv also just installed that Greddy multi switch device which will control the engine cooling,as well as dropping out the underside of the dash and re-wiring where all the sensors and boost control wires go as they were better positioned on the other side of the engine bay LOL

so its moving....but finding free time to do it is another story!
but on a high note we have a contract on our house so will know next week if its all on......meanwhile all i can think about is Hyper Gunmetal 3 pce Sprint Iforged alloys,brembo GT 355mm kit with silver calipers and some side skirts LOOOOL

jnolte

03-01-2006, 08:16 PM

then you can sell me those wheels

rollinrealbig

03-01-2006, 09:32 PM

Paul - your spending like three times the amount then what your car originally costs. what do you get out of it? all that hard work and custom stuff youve been talking about .... just hope it all turns out good for you with plenty of good luck. why not get a new STI or Evo9 ? I bet all you 202ers are about to start a war agianst me for saying that but if you really think about it, compare it all - an 06' Evo vs. over-tuned 202 - which gets older by the day and older means more problems because we all know that MB isnt exactly the best car in reliability if you dont always maintain it, and maintinance is expensive. which would you rather have? its like taking a donkey and trying to make a horse out of it.

all three cars mentioned are known to be great cars but if you want racing - get an STI/Evo/Skyline if you can, if you want luxery - get a Lexus or MB, if you want a little bit of both - get a C55 i guess, it just seems hard to try to reverse these things - can you make a luxery car out of an Evo ? dont think so. can you make a race car out of a 202 ? pretty hard and alot of work/money, and in the end - well ... its still a 202. dont get me wrong - i love 202's, but seems like they wernt meant to be what we want out of them.

with all that said, I really dont understand you here Paul - but I just hope you wont be disappointed in your project! good luck to you man (no sarcasm here) :) ;)

jnolte

03-01-2006, 09:38 PM

rollinrealbig

03-01-2006, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by jnolte
BAN HIS ASS!!!!!! :mad: :mad:

I soooooo knew one of you was going to say that .... just give it a few hours, ill have the entire club saying that! :D

Pagz

03-01-2006, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by jnolte
BAN HIS ASS!!!!!! :mad: :mad:

Hurry Hurry!...im starting to have second thoughts:D

Pagz

03-01-2006, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by rollinrealbig
Paul - your spending like three times the amount then what your car originally costs. what do you get out of it? all that hard work and custom stuff youve been talking about .... just hope it all turns out good for you with plenty of good luck. why not get a new STI or Evo9 ? I bet all you 202ers are about to start a war agianst me for saying that but if you really think about it, compare it all - an 06' Evo vs. over-tuned 202 - which gets older by the day and older means more problems because we all know that MB isnt exactly the best car in reliability if you dont always maintain it, and maintinance is expensive. which would you rather have? its like taking a donkey and trying to make a horse out of it.

all three cars mentioned are known to be great cars but if you want racing - get an STI/Evo/Skyline if you can, if you want luxery - get a Lexus or MB, if you want a little bit of both - get a C55 i guess, it just seems hard to try to reverse these things - can you make a luxery car out of an Evo ? dont think so. can you make a race car out of a 202 ? pretty hard and alot of work/money, and in the end - well ... its still a 202. dont get me wrong - i love 202's, but seems like they wernt meant to be what we want out of them.

with all that said, I really dont understand you here Paul - but I just hope you wont be disappointed in your project! good luck to you man (no sarcasm here) :) ;)

Well...i just wrote like 1000 lines on why i modded my 202,and why i didnt trade it for a Evo 6.5 yesturday...then i deleted it and sum'd it up in these three words...

I like my 202...

why do i mod it!,mostly because i drive past literally 100's of modified STIs EVOs Skylines every day...I pull up in my driveway and see a car i hardly see...a donkey being converted to a horse:D

10 years ago I still remember the day I was sitting in third form english looking through a HOT4's mag...and there it was...a tightly modded black 202....nothing came close to the look!...and in my opinion,not alot does!.....

.....Plus im helplessley addicted to performance modification;)

all in all thankyou for your opinion mang!
...at times i just cant see why some people collect stamps;)...

aruba

03-02-2006, 08:01 AM

I JUST LIKE MY 202 . men those words meen so much to me.:)

rollinrealbig

03-02-2006, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by 23K
Well...i just wrote like 1000 lines on why i modded my 202,and why i didnt trade it for a Evo 6.5 yesturday...then i deleted it and sum'd it up in these three words...

I like my 202...

why do i mod it!,mostly because i drive past literally 100's of modified STIs EVOs Skylines every day...I pull up in my driveway and see a car i hardly see...a donkey being converted to a horse:D

10 years ago I still remember the day I was sitting in third form english looking through a HOT4's mag...and there it was...a tightly modded black 202....nothing came close to the look!...and in my opinion,not alot does!.....

.....Plus im helplessley addicted to performance modification;)

all in all thankyou for your opinion mang!
...at times i just cant see why some people collect stamps;)...

the stamp thing - dont even ask! :D

so now I see your reason - to stand out from the croud!

my area doesnt have anything but hondas, and the closests to a skyline is a 240SX, did I mention we had hondas ? yea lots of em!

lucky you, your country doesnt seem to have strict regulations as the US, which puts a stop on any tuners dream. - you can deffinatly tell just by comparing the 202s you would see in the US to the 202's you see in Germany or other contries. not fair for US ppl at all :mad:

as for what i have in mind ... well, test drove a new EvoMR the other day, ;) you get my idea right there!

SLAMMED_C

03-02-2006, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by 23K
Yo,um na mang its painfully slow...have been so busy at work also!!!!,still havent had time to write back but will do for sure man!...
turns out theres more work in doing the radiator tank than i first thought...,have cut the OEM one open and removed the float...just trying to incorperate the magnetic switch into the new one iv made...
also as my engine harness is almost past it used-by im making a custom one that includes the four new sensors iv installed!...
you'll see on my page iv constucted a 4" intake as well,just need to get it welded etc and buy the right filter!....

the most annoying thing at the moment is trying to find an easy way to stiffen up the engine mounts...looks like i will gut my old mounts and have them re-pored in a harder rubber with no oil.

Iv also just installed that Greddy multi switch device which will control the engine cooling,as well as dropping out the underside of the dash and re-wiring where all the sensors and boost control wires go as they were better positioned on the other side of the engine bay LOL

so its moving....but finding free time to do it is another story!
but on a high note we have a contract on our house so will know next week if its all on......meanwhile all i can think about is Hyper Gunmetal 3 pce Sprint Iforged alloys,brembo GT 355mm kit with silver calipers and some side skirts LOOOOL
Dat sucks man.. well I hope your work slows down o you can work more on your car!!
no worries bro.. write back when ya can.
cool.. intakes lookin sweet man.. you need more pics of shit on your site though!!.. wheres the pics of the coolant tank?
engine wiring harness is falling apart is it? thats no good man.. your making a completely new harness?
wow.. thats should be interesting.. having the stock motor mounts filled with a harder solid rubber.. who's gonna do that?
shit boy!.. sounds like your almost completely rewired your C!!.. any pics of the greddy switch for the fans?
nice.. congrats on the house.. finally found someone to buy.
lol.. you just spend money faster then you can make it!!.. new ifogred wheels.. BBK.. and side skirts!.. decided what sides your going with?

and nice comment on liking your W202.. Id never get rid of mine either.. I just love the W202 so much.. great platform.. great lines to the body.. so much potential.

HOLY FLIP!!!!.. I just saw the prices of the Ifogred wheels you want!!!.. good luck with that man!!

Pagz

03-02-2006, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by jnolte
then you can sell me those wheels

the cost to ship them would be somewhat high,most likely close to what there worth;)
I put them on Trademe a while back(similar to ebay) just to see what they would fetch,there was tones of intrest,but price was alittle high as i only wanted to sell if i recovered some of the cost.

Pagz

03-02-2006, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by SLAMMED_C
Dat sucks man.. well I hope your work slows down o you can work more on your car!!
no worries bro.. write back when ya can.
cool.. intakes lookin sweet man.. you need more pics of shit on your site though!!.. wheres the pics of the coolant tank?
engine wiring harness is falling apart is it? thats no good man.. your making a completely new harness?
wow.. thats should be interesting.. having the stock motor mounts filled with a harder solid rubber.. who's gonna do that?
shit boy!.. sounds like your almost completely rewired your C!!.. any pics of the greddy switch for the fans?
nice.. congrats on the house.. finally found someone to buy.
lol.. you just spend money faster then you can make it!!.. new ifogred wheels.. BBK.. and side skirts!.. decided what sides your going with?

and nice comment on liking your W202.. Id never get rid of mine either.. I just love the W202 so much.. great platform.. great lines to the body.. so much potential.

HOLY FLIP!!!!.. I just saw the prices of the Ifogred wheels you want!!!.. good luck with that man!!

hey yeh hopfully i'll get it running before we shift house!!!,we have an 11 week project coming up as where ripping up a portion of the runway,so lots of overtime but less modding time!
yeh iv been alittle slack with the pics lately,was kinda waiting until i have it welded(as im still deciding on who will weld it)i'll get a few more up shortly man!
my harness was still in alright condition,it was just starting to get tough to bend,no cracks though,and with the addition of the four sensors,it just made sense to make a new one,so iv cut it all up,and have just started soldering etc...

theres a few suspension companys out there who will take out rubber bushes,set up a jig and re-poor the rubber in harder compounds,they should be able to do it to my mounts without trouble(i hope)...

haha yeh theres lots more wires running round the place now!!!,theres a crap pic of the Greddy MSS unit on the last page of my site,will get more eventually!...

LOL even though everyone has voted wald sides,im still leaning towards genuine C36 sides as i feel they better suit the squarness of my bumper!...

thanks!,I hope it all goes unconditional without a hitch...but theres always a chance it could fall through!!!...but if it doesnt there definatly will be room for BBK,Iforged and those sides!!!,but im not getting my hopes up just yet!.
Yip...damn there not cheap...but its good Shit!...im thinking either this colour(anthracite),or charcoal...but probly reverse lip as they dont make the sizes i wont in step lip like on this audi
http://www.iforged.com/albums/album01/kennya42.sized.jpg

yeh the 202 really is a great platform,great lines!...I dont plan to sell mine for a very long time,its had way to much time invested,somthing you would definatly know about;)
keep up the modding man!,laters...

rollinrealbig

03-02-2006, 07:48 PM

I was one who voted C36 skirts, none of the Wald products got my attention, I love the brabus, C36 skirts and rear (not front), lumma front is just off the hook! and the C43 is great too! I wouldnt get anything else for my 202 if I was to ever tune it, but most likly not ... talking to my dad about selling mine.

Pagz

03-02-2006, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by rollinrealbig
I was one who voted C36 skirts, none of the Wald products got my attention, I love the brabus, C36 skirts and rear (not front), lumma front is just off the hook! and the C43 is great too! I wouldnt get anything else for my 202 if I was to ever tune it, but most likly not ... talking to my dad about selling mine.

So i guess you'll buy a C36 or 43 if you sell??;););)
thanks for voting!,at first it was all about the wald kit,but looks like the C36 is making a slow comeback!

trymonlam

03-02-2006, 08:51 PM

i've said this before, the c36 skirts should go perfectly with the lumma front u got.

Pagz

03-02-2006, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by trymonlam
i've said this before, the c36 skirts should go perfectly with the lumma front u got.

thanks!,thats all the backup i need...C36 it is!!:D

Abuimad

03-02-2006, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by trymonlam
i've said this before, the c36 skirts should go perfectly with the lumma front u got.

word....
c36 not c43 or wald
and brabus maybe

rollinrealbig

03-03-2006, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by 23K
So i guess you'll buy a C36 or 43 if you sell??;););)
thanks for voting!,at first it was all about the wald kit,but looks like the C36 is making a slow comeback!

if I find ANY manual 202 for sale ill take it!

but thats not goin to happen so im thinkin of another car, just still reading about them and finding out information and how well they perform and last.

Evo XIII .... possibly. but not until I have a lisence, so what im thinking about doing (its for everyones good) is selling the 202, saving more money ($20,000 at least) and if I still need a car to go to work and school ill take my dads SUV - not fast but has 4WD, so it will definatly keep me away from the "racing in the street" scene. and the W203 - my mom agreed to pay back about $5000 ive put into it, and she will keep it, but the recent damage is my fault so i wont get money for that. damn i should of NEVER driven an Evo .... damn car got me hOoOoOoOoOoked! :D

nightferret

03-03-2006, 07:30 PM

hey how much did that cost you to do that? if you dont mind me asking.

Pagz

03-04-2006, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by nightferret
hey how much did that cost you to do that? if you dont mind me asking.

Umm,you mean the header?,or the whole project?...both cost alot...actually here i could have bought a 96 C230 for the cost so far!lol

Pagz

03-04-2006, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by rollinrealbig
if I find ANY manual 202 for sale ill take it!

but thats not goin to happen so im thinkin of another car, just still reading about them and finding out information and how well they perform and last.

Evo XIII .... possibly. but not until I have a lisence, so what im thinking about doing (its for everyones good) is selling the 202, saving more money ($20,000 at least) and if I still need a car to go to work and school ill take my dads SUV - not fast but has 4WD, so it will definatly keep me away from the "racing in the street" scene. and the W203 - my mom agreed to pay back about $5000 ive put into it, and she will keep it, but the recent damage is my fault so i wont get money for that. damn i should of NEVER driven an Evo .... damn car got me hOoOoOoOoOoked! :D

haha yeh i remember when I was 16,a gurl i know started see'n this guy who owned an evo1,this was when i had my turbo diesel lancer with evo kit LOOOOL,Anyhow he let me drive it back to there place...and damn it was all about getting rid of my lancer and getting an evo.....so i sold my lancer and saved hard...just over a year later I purchased an Evo3,which has turned out to be a very sought after car here and frequently sells for around the 20K mark as you cannot register them anymore.
also evo 4 5 6 and 7 are in the 10-25K range.
then i saw my C230K manual,and they wouldnt trade my ricer evo,so i traded for a typeR teg...after another few years i try'd to find another C230K manual...but nothing...then we managed to get the address of the person who bought it back when they wouldnt trade the evo...sure enough the owners were keen on a deal and needed the money,so goodluck finding a manual one!..iv seen quit a few C180 manual ones since,but very few komps!

rollinrealbig

03-04-2006, 09:47 PM

in the US - never seen a manual 202, i dont see them alot period!

I dont think ive seen anything under Evo8 in the streets either, ive heard that they never released the evo7 in the US, not sure about it but heck i want an Evo8, thinking it through tho before I make any changes. the reason im aiming for an evo8 is because the 9 is tooo expensive and its basically the exact same car - just diff body styling a little bit, and the valve timing thing (not sure what it is exactly).

ive seen the 9's at the stealership - they have nice interiors compared to the 8's but its not a biggie to me, ive been checkin out the evo8 at my dads place, its been there for a few days now and im obsessed! :D